Open 714: Tit for Tat [Game Over]

[jmo16mla]

VOTE: luca blight

I want to get this to L-1.

This stinks.

VOTE: jmo

Luca can be scum, yeah.

Based on what, exactly?

Hey, at least we are getting someone to L-1 and we aren't stagnant anymore!

Are you voting me purely because I wanted your wagon/creature wagon to get to L-1 or what?

I skimmed the thread and you stood out as someone just making comments that are actually pretty useless like the one I quoted above.

The fact you want to get me to L-1 not only based on nothing but when I wasn't even active at the time makes matters worse. You also drop that wagon at the first opportunity, which brings into question your motivation for doing it in the first place.

See my post above about generating conversations and getting wagons going. It worked. You weren't active, and now you are. Everything is going exactly (kind of) to plan.

[Mathdino]

guys if you keep quote pyramiding i'm policy lynching both of you

[Luca Blight]

@Math

: I find it extraordinary how you could get any sort of ping from this post:

VOTE: Jay

His record ends now.

As RVS posts go, that is pretty standard.

Why did you not mention this ping at the time, instead of vaguely agreeing that I '

can be scum

' when jmo voted me? Why bother making such a remark only to change the topic entirely in your very next sentence?

Jay tried to have reasoning behind his. I didn't think it was legit. I stated this.

His reasoning is no different than that of '

gut

' - there is no real evidence what he thinks is true, he just feels it's the case.

Is there any particular reason you didn't want to get Mutant to L-1?

[jmo16mla]

I'm willing to let go of Jay right now.

What is your thought-process behind this; why did you decide to let Jay go here, and what is your read of Jay at this point?

There really wasn't much going on with it, he and mathDino were being weird. I noted my reads and investigated elsewhere. I never even voted Jay.

Jay is puzzling. The whole spill about a past game really thew me off of him. I've gone back and tred to read through what looks to be a newbie game he replaced into as scum. I didn't really see anything that stood out to me about his play there. I believe he wasn't very agressive and didn't vote much. I want to do more investigating.

[Mathdino]

didn't care about it at the time (tbh i skimmed over it), was doing something else, busy sorting the players i actually know

when jmo made the vote i looked back and thought to myself "yeah, luca vote makes sense based on that post, i'd be good with that"

working through sorting people basically

cmon ask me more interesting questions

[jmo16mla]

Is there any particular reason you didn't want to get Mutant to L-1?

I don't think I said this. I take it you're looking at the mutant train and asking why i didn't jump on tI bring it to l-1?

[jmo16mla]

*begins to look for luca scum game*

[jmo16mla]

... no wiki page linking me to recent games. You make this difficult.

[Mathdino]

jmo, i've done cold meta on jay multiple times and multiple times have come off wrong

i think your cold meta time is probably better spent on other players since around 2/3 of this playerlist has gotten snowed by scum-Jay already

For anyone confused about the past games thing:

Jay-scum played a game I modded, against A50, NSG, and mutant, along with this guy named the worst. mutant got D1 mislynched, and the worst got mafia'd, vigged, and bodyguarded all on the same night.

Jay repeatedly mixed up mutant with the worst, arguing that mutant was a standout enough player to get the mafia AND town's attention, along with saying mutant is mislynchbait (which is true).

Because pregame lasted 4 goddamn days, we can reasonably assume Jay doesn't literally think mutant is the worst at this point, and that slip was genuine. They're not scum together.

The entirety of that conversation was me trying to pull that out of him. The rest is basically useless IMO.

[Luca Blight]

Presumably you didn't want to get Mutant to L-1 like you did with me and Creature, or else you would have voted him instead of disagreeing with Jay. I was wondering why you didn't choose to join the wagon of an active player, rather than start a wagon on an absentee.

Why mention you're looking at my scum games? Do you do that every time you take a metadive?

[Luca Blight]

Recent scum games:

viewtopic.php?f=23&t=74286
viewtopic.php?f=84&t=73460
viewtopic.php?f=52&t=73388

There were a couple of others I replaced out from.

[JaydragonKing]

I'm willing to let go of Jay right now.

What is your thought-process behind this; why did you decide to let Jay go here, and what is your read of Jay at this point?

There really wasn't much going on with it, he and mathDino were being weird. I noted my reads and investigated elsewhere. I never even voted Jay.

Jay is puzzling. The whole spill about a past game really thew me off of him. I've gone back and tred to read through what looks to be a newbie game he replaced into as scum. I didn't really see anything that stood out to me about his play there. I believe he wasn't very agressive and didn't vote much. I want to do more investigating.

That newbie game is the start of my perfect scum streak, I'll have you know. Also my first game and stuff. I literally have my wiki mostly updated with links to all my completed games, actually. Been trying to make Dino do the same but he's lazy.

That little wiki button below my name will help your quest! Just a heads up though, my first game is the worst one you can read when it comes to finding a meta of what I am now that I grew into myself, so to speak.

[Mathdino]

Luca do me a favour and stop interrogating jmo for now, talk about something else

Do you give a shit that I responded to you above lol

[jmo16mla]

Because pregame lasted 4 goddamn days, we can reasonably assume Jay doesn't literally think mutant is the worst at this point, and that slip was genuine

You know, that didn't make sense when you first said it, but now it does. Cool.

[Mathdino]

@Luca: Like dude both of the people you're aggressively interrogating (and that your whole ISO is directed to) are the only 2 people who suspected you

[Luca Blight]

Luca do me a favour and stop interrogating jmo for now, talk about something else

Do you give a shit that I responded to you above lol

I disagree voting me makes sense based on my RVS post. I can't understand that mindset at all.

[Mathdino]

Then how do you expect to get out of RVS
Gimme a break, this is how the game goes
Talk about your reads on others

[Luca Blight]

@Luca: Like dude both of the people you're aggressively interrogating (and that your whole ISO is directed to) are the only 2 people who suspected you

What is your point exactly?

I'm not aggressively interrogating you; I'm just pointing out your dubious scumread based on my RVS post.

[Luca Blight]

Then how do you expect to get out of RVS
Gimme a break, this is how the game goes
Talk about your reads on others

What are you talking about? RVS was long gone by the time jmo voted me and you agreed that I '

can be scum

'.

Your comment was terrible. Face it.

[Mathdino]

My point is you've interacted with a total of 2 players, all resulting from both of them harping on you for your rvs post

More succinctly, my point is to get over it and expand your view of the game

[Mathdino]

This feels like "you caught me for the wrong reasons", not gonna lie

[Luca Blight]

My point is you've interacted with a total of 2 players, all resulting from both of them harping on you for your rvs post

More succinctly, my point is to get over it and expand your view of the game

I'll do that when I'm good and ready. I'll play the game how I want to, not how you tell me to.

[Luca Blight]

This feels like "you caught me for the wrong reasons", not gonna lie

Yeah, even though you didn't even vote me and changed the subject immediately onto something else.

You really

caught me

....

[JaydragonKing]

VOTE: Creature

I do declare that this is legit his only post. And Almost popped in and sang some lyrics for some reason and yelled at Gamma like a grouchy old man. Almost is stubborn enough to do his own shit to his grave, and unless any of you know Aneninen, then he seems like a good starting place right now for my vote.

VOTE: Aneninen

[jmo16mla]

@Luca: Like dude both of the people you're aggressively interrogating (and that your whole ISO is directed to) are the only 2 people who suspected you

I will look at 1974 pokemon mafia tomorrow. Something something about Jay being scum and having issues with people about voting him about RVS and reacting the same way as he is now... I'm not voting you yet, because that game may very well clear you, but we will see about it tomorrow.