Open 714: Tit for Tat [Game Over]

[Gamma Emerald]

ok i guess we're doin this

VOTE: Luca

you wanna go after me in a playerlist with a proven track record of correctly reading me (minus jay and paradox who were bad that one time), be my guest

i'm not gonna continue this 1v1 unless you start doing the "every single post mathdino makes is proof he's scum" thing, let's leave it at this page and see what people think

there's always that one player...

Um sorry I got duped by you in the RC UPick so...
but in other news top tier case on LB

[Gamma Emerald]

I don't understand why Gamma brought that replacement up in 58, especially if he added two posts later:

"lolwut that was in the past dude"

How can I say, he was posting without producing real content.

WOOOOOW destruction of context much?
I was trying to give advice as to what to make of someone's play seeming like their past town play, and when jmo said to not bring it up again I figured he thought there was something going on there so I was like "whoa it's not what you think"
Like this feels

really fucking disingenuous

.

[Almost50]

A50 is also probably town honestly, having a real hard time seeing him as scum here

Will explain more in an arbitrary period of time

Please don't. I mean, sure .. explain the one on Luca, nut not the TR on me. Thanks

[Luca Blight]

Spoiler:

VOTE: jmo

Feel better about my vote being here.

Woo!

For pressuring Jays motives and reasonings? :/

VOTE: luca blight

I want to get this to L-1.

This stinks.

VOTE: jmo

Luca can be scum, yeah.

Based on what, exactly?

Hey, at least we are getting someone to L-1 and we aren't stagnant anymore!

These reactions to being voted ping me a bit as well - it feels unnatural.

I don't like this, feels deliberately obtuse

FOS: Luca Blight

Would vote but not sure of wagon status

How in the fuck is that being

deliberately obtuse

?

[Gamma Emerald]

Actually Aneni's post I just referring to has a lot of discrediting it seems

[Gamma Emerald]

Spoiler:

VOTE: jmo

Feel better about my vote being here.

Woo!

For pressuring Jays motives and reasonings? :/

VOTE: luca blight

I want to get this to L-1.

This stinks.

VOTE: jmo

Luca can be scum, yeah.

Based on what, exactly?

Hey, at least we are getting someone to L-1 and we aren't stagnant anymore!

These reactions to being voted ping me a bit as well - it feels unnatural.

I don't like this, feels deliberately obtuse

FOS: Luca Blight

Would vote but not sure of wagon status

How in the fuck is that being

deliberately obtuse

?

You weren't looking into the actual motive and were pressing him on the basis of his vote

[Luca Blight]

Read carefully what you quoted, I'm not sure if you misunderstand or if you are the one being

obtuse

here.

[Gamma Emerald]

Always appreciated your playstyle, but GOD do I hope you're not vig this time

Obviously, I'm not answering this. But you must admit that my Vig-play makes the game more exciting. I mean, if the town's winning I make the game more balanced...

Hope you don't mind if I jailkeep you then

[Gamma Emerald]

Read carefully what you quoted, I'm not sure if you misunderstand or if you are the one being

obtuse

here.

Why were you focused on the

basis

so much, rather than looking into the

motive

?

[Luca Blight]

Read carefully what you quoted, I'm not sure if you misunderstand or if you are the one being

obtuse

here.

Why were you focused on the

basis

so much, rather than looking into the

motive

?

That's irrelevant to the thing you quoted and fos'd me for, which was suspicion based on his reaction to being voted by different players.

[Gamma Emerald]

Quick Readlist.

town

Luca (explained above)
Pinturicchio (new-player town vibes, explained above)

lean town

Mathdino (his late-questions made him look better)

null or unsorted

(These don't mean the same!)
Creature (no content)
GoldenParadox (is he in the game?)
Mutantdevle (According to Mathdino my scumread on him may be wrong)

lean scum

JayDragonKing (too much fluff, too little content)
Almost50 (too little content but that doesn't match the town-meta I know.)
Gamma (little content but see what I brought up)
Jmo16Mla (see my posts, nothing big but plenty of concerning bits.)

scum

Northsidegal (explained above.)

________

I know I have too many scumreads and too few townreads. For your information, these lists are sort of self-reminders.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Northsidegal

________

Post-edit.

I've read your latest, Mathdino. See your point as for your early-townreads.
I'll think about that later. I mean, your Luca-read. Your NSG-read haven't been explained yet.

While some of the townreads are okay the scumreads are not right in any capacity

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh, wrong topic
For that one it should have been clear he was glad RVS was over

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh, wrong topic
For that one it should have been clear he was glad RVS was over

@Luca

[Mathdino]

Gamma and luca please don't blow up the thread thanks

Luca, people can push Gamma without you

Gamma, the luca case has already been made

There is a specific reason I need the thread to not blow up thanks

[Mathdino]

Always appreciated your playstyle, but GOD do I hope you're not vig this time

Obviously, I'm not answering this. But you must admit that my Vig-play makes the game more exciting. I mean, if the town's winning I make the game more balanced...

Hope you don't mind if I jailkeep you then

I counterclaim

[Gamma Emerald]

Sure let's try this:

VOTE: northsidegal

You've seen nsg I don't like this

[Mathdino]

I still do not remember my role pm

[Gamma Emerald]

what a meme it is to have jay, aneninen, paradox, and almost50 all in the same game

jay lemme tell you about the time paradox claimed babysitter and unironically calmly self-hammered, thinking it was the town thing to do

Edit: I in no way advocate for townreading Jay, lol.

Why all of them

[jmo16mla]

[quote="In post 291, Mathdino"]I still do not remember my role

[Mathdino]

jay fakeclaimed vig as VT in a semi-open to save himself from a lynch (there was a 55% chance there was another vig to counterclaim, IIRC)

aneninen once vigged me after i was cop cleared because aneninen couldn't handle the idea that i knew what his role was (i'm good at PR hunting when i need to be)

paradox once self deadline-hammered as the town's only remaining power role legitimately thinking it was the pro-town move

a50 is just a crazy person

[jmo16mla]

I still do not remember my role pm

Ebydp

[Gamma Emerald]

All meta should be taken with a pinch of salt, at best.

There are some exceptions to the rule, as I stated with my example of UCV.

I disagree. My pal Mulch says MU has higher town winrates because of meta being used more, and I agree. I recall being caught out once or twice there on meta
And as MD says Creature is meta-able even though he's hyper-aware. I think I could be meta'd as well if you knew my underlying tendencies, but I try to eliminate more glaring differences in town and scum meta.

[Gamma Emerald]

jay fakeclaimed vig as VT in a semi-open to save himself from a lynch (there was a 55% chance there was another vig to counterclaim, IIRC)

aneninen once vigged me after i was cop cleared because aneninen couldn't handle the idea that i knew what his role was (i'm good at PR hunting when i need to be)

paradox once self deadline-hammered as the town's only remaining power role legitimately thinking it was the pro-town move

a50 is just a crazy person

I neighborized scum and tried to mason gambit with them, and later that same game lynched a confirmed miller as town because I thought millers could be scum in normal

Also I know about Jay, I read that whole game in a night phase yaknow

[JaydragonKing]

jay fakeclaimed vig as VT in a semi-open to save himself from a lynch (there was a 55% chance there was another vig to counterclaim, IIRC)

Don't forget I also bet my life on a 50-50 bet in your game by claiming Roleblocker. Good times, good times...

[Mathdino]

as scum that was the actual best move you could've made

i think i mentioned that in the mod topic

as town, fakeclaiming is bad no thx

anyway

jay what's your lynchpool so far