Mini 1990: Terror in the City (Game Over)

[The Powerpuff Girls]

What are the chances of scum WIFOMing a no-kill on Kop now?

~ BC

[Hopkirk]

@Almost: So what's the value in doing it today? I can understand doing it because you think Gamma's scum, but not the setup theory based reasons.

[Almost50]

@Almost: So what's the value in doing it today? I can understand doing it because you think Gamma's scum, but not the setup theory based reasons.

Exactly! I want to lynch a scumster in exchange of the JK being NK'd tonight. That also gives said JK less targets to guess are going to do the NK.

[Hopkirk]

So you agree the other stuff about doing it to see if there's another killer etc doesn't make sense/matter compared to the scumtell?

[Almost50]

The other stuff are "added value" from where I stand. Gamma flipping Scum helps me reread the game at night phase and refine my reads. Him flipping Town should also help me reconsider some of my reads. It's the most informative lynch on the scummiest slot.

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm seriously disengaged right now
Someone talk to me

[TheFuzzylogic99]

Reads

Town

Mom- I am pretty sure Momrangal is town based on play. I havent seen anything scummy about her that pings my scumdar
Kop- ( leaning town) - I basing this on his claim of JK . He is lightly reading town for me

null/ not sure

The Powerpuff Girls - (???) The hydra is all over the place. The disorganzations of the hydra is making it hard to read
Gamma Emerald-
Dunnstral
Chickadee
havingfitz

Scum

Almost50
Hopkirk

There just something off about the play of these two. This is this gut feeling but im just getting scum pings from them.

Prob is town but Im going to scum read anyways bc its fu

n
Nero

[TheFuzzylogic99]

A50
so we should lynch Gamma bc it will help you get a better read on another player- Am I understanding this right?

[havingfitz]

I'm seriously disengaged right now
Someone talk to me

Summarize why people think you're scum and why they're wrong.

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm seriously disengaged right now
Someone talk to me

Summarize why people think you're scum and why they're wrong.

People think I'm scum because there's two roles claiming some form of guilty on me
I can't really give a smoking gun for why they're wrong but I ask who is scumreading me solely because of the guilties because I have questions for them

[Momrangal]

UNVOTE:

[Momrangal]

I don't know if I can have a null scum read on gamma based on that last response. I mean... He's not even fighting or trying to. He's just given up. I feel like scum would find some kind of defense and not just go "eh can't think of anything"

[TheFuzzylogic99]

Not understanding the scum read on Gamma...... A50 guilty was a bad reaction test....and I am confused on how Kops JK makes him scum. To me Gamma is null at worst. I really have not heard anything that has convinced me Gamma is scu, I am open to haering yje case on Gamma but right now I just dont understand the scum read

[TheFuzzylogic99]

Having Fritz- how does being disengaged = being scum..... can you explain that to me please,,,,,,

also I will be VLA
Today and Saturday......

[The Powerpuff Girls]

I don't know if I can have a null scum read on gamma based on that last response. I mean... He's not even fighting or trying to. He's just given up. I feel like scum would find some kind of defense and not just go "eh can't think of anything"

??? this isn't something that you townread someone for what the heck

[The Powerpuff Girls]

I'm seriously disengaged right now
Someone talk to me

Summarize why people think you're scum and why they're wrong.

People think I'm scum because there's two roles claiming some form of guilty on me
I can't really give a smoking gun for why they're wrong but I ask who is scumreading me solely because of the guilties because I have questions for them

like this is a gigantic fucking misrep, gamma is scum by play and because of the reaction, pretending people are scumreading them because of the guilties is BS

[The Powerpuff Girls]

literally besides A50 no one is even taking the jailkeep or the cop in to account except in terms of being critical of the response to it. Gamma is scum here and is the lynch today tyia.
Kop we would appreciate being jailkept to guarantee our continued survival after Gamma flips scum.

~Professor / Raybells

[The Powerpuff Girls]

A50
so we should lynch Gamma bc it will help you get a better read on another player- Am I understanding this right?

A50's reasons for lynching Gamma are dumb but that doesn't mean the lynch itself is dumb: Gamma is scum.

[The Powerpuff Girls]

Like ignore the existence of the jailkeeper: Gamma is scum by play. Gamma is scum because their reaction to the guilty was to say they didn't believe it as opposed to it being impossible.
They're scum because people are desperately trying to counterwagon someone who claimed a role scum would virtually never claim

and hopkirk keeps saying 'oh RC cant scumread me because im literally the exact same as NC' to discredit me but thats complete bull and that really should be taken as a scumclaim by everyone

What makes Mom scum in this game as opposed to just coming back and having a game where they come off as a little off because they haven't played in years?

Whereas in terms of looking for reasons that Gamma is scum: take your pick.

[The Powerpuff Girls]

Nice try, Scum!Gamma

VOTE: Gamma

Got a guilty, yo!

I also suspect Fuzzy fir his entrance of D2, but let's lynch the guilty first.

*yawn*
I don't believe you

Can someone tell me why we are voting the pr claim and not the guilty?

This isn't making any kind of sense


Pedit: seriously?

Because the PR claim has no credibility

Like sorry?
Town's response to being fake guiltied is never to say they don't believe it: it's to say it's not true. Whether you believe it or not implies the guilty could be real.
And no one as town pushes this by saying that the PR claim has no credibility as opposed to saying that it's fake if they're town.
He's not denying the PR existing he's denying that they have the credibility to have a guilty on him, which is tantamount to a scumclaim.

Everyone currently on the Mom wagon is getting lynched over the next 3 days get your votes onto Gamma and let's lynch scum.

[The Powerpuff Girls]

Can someone explain why lynching Mom is mylo is more effective than lynching her now?
We lose out on associations and if she's scum then we're less likely to lynch her partners.
Lynching her at 8p mylo is the same as no lynch (or worse depending on prs) in regard to numbers. The difference is that mafia choose who dies instead of Mom. I also expect there'll be people in mylo who will still be saying she's town so don't lynch her. It's not a guaranteed lynch.

When gamma flips scum this is a quicklynch tomorrow by the way. I'm still trying to encourage my team to get rid this now because it's the most threatening scum but
like their argument is that when Mom lynch literally doesn't effect win equity if town and does effect if scum that people would NOT lynch them in mylo is garbage

hopkirk isn't an idiot he's just pretending to be to continue to justify not lynching scum

[The Powerpuff Girls]

@Nero cain do you not have a problem with the fact that Hopkirk is repeatedly saying that I can't scumread him because I'm not scumreading you? Is that whose wagon you want to be on?

[The Powerpuff Girls]

I'm not making a meta argument on someone I played with one time four years ago when I was new to the game.
I'm just refuting that she's new, and your conclusions formed from this point- that she wouldn't make a claim like this.

This claim is almost entirely unrelated to the fact that she's new, it's related to the fact that claiming a role that gets policy lynched like venge/ss/that is relegated to a very tiny proportion of scum players who are capable and willing to pull it off effectively and get away with it. That's not MS marangal. You also are fully aware that this is not the point and are deliberately twisting it because you're scum and should be lynched like you should have been lynched in twin trap if I survived past day 1.

[The Powerpuff Girls]

he things you're attacking me for also apply to Nero. You aren't attacking him whatsoever.

Again some stuff does some stuff doesn't Nero's associatives with scum are significantly better than yours. Am genuinely reasonably okay with NC atm.
But yeah we will probably make sure he doesn't get to endgame with how hard he's pushing the counterwagon to scum!Gamma- but that's more of a safety move.

[The Powerpuff Girls]

UNVOTE:

I don't know if I can have a null scum read on gamma based on that last response. I mean... He's not even fighting or trying to. He's just given up. I feel like scum would find some kind of defense and not just go "eh can't think of anything"

Also why TF does scum!Mom bail off of this wagon if these wagons are TvS and Mom is the scum?
And if it's her scumbuddy, why not lynch the scumbuddy knowing that Momrangal will be mechanically dealt with most of the time later in the game?