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[Umlaut]

I discovered these facts by

reading the thread

from the point where the Drew wagon started; you too can discover facts in this way

[gobbledygook]

VC 2.3

Fenraiser
NorwegianboyEE (1) - SirCakez
ManateeDude
Black Ranger (1) - Titus
Wake88
fwogcarf
Umlaut
Titus
CantLynchAPuppy
SirCakez (4) - Nahdia, NorwegianBoyEE, Umlaut, ManateeDude [ - 2]
Nahdia (1) - Black Ranger

Not Voting

(4) - Fenraiser, Wake88, fwogcarf, CantLynchAPuppy

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to remove someone from the town.

CantLynchAPuppy has been prodded.

Deadline

: (expired on 2020-06-22 08:00:00)[/color]

[fwogcarf]

I feel like there's too much tolerance for underperformance in this game. The lynch is a destination. How we get there is more important than lynching scum. Investment is how we'll color slots versus rolling some weighted dice.

I don't want to hold people to some great standard of "must case everything that you make impact with" or "must have a strong opinion" but you should be able to find some way to help the town. If that's your wincon at least.

Do you think my Nahdia case has the capabilities of being implemented today?

[fwogcarf]

Cakez wagon looks spicy but not spicy enough

What is this supposed to mean?

Meaning that I thought there could be a wolf jumping on here but judging that we're not close to EoD and there's only three votes I don't think a Cakez lynch is happening today.

[fwogcarf]

Who were the main detractors from the wagon on Drew-Sta?

I was on Nahdia but it doesn't show on the votecount because mod made a mistake

[fwogcarf]

Oh wait Cakez is at L-2 lol

[Umlaut]

VOTE: Wake88

Can we just lynch this? All indications are that Wake is going to continue as he has begun. At this point I don't really care what the reasons are; even if he's town, that means town is short one voice and one vote for as long as he lives.

[Wake1]

VOTE: Wake88

Can we just lynch this? All indications are that Wake is going to continue as he has begun. At this point I don't really care what the reasons are; even if he's town, that means town is short one voice and one vote for as long as he lives.

[Umlaut]

Oh, so you are reading!

[SirCakez]

Not gonna buy any "no scum on Drew wagon" stuff

[Fenraiser]

Just in case I fuck up and blank vote to consolidate later today:

because nahdia's bracket reads are popular this game apparently. i'm of no relation.

{Fwog, Osuka, Norwegian}
{Manatee, Puppy, Cakez}
{Fenraiser, Nahdia, bob}
{Umlaut, Drew}
{Wake}

town townlean scumlean scum waketier

Will compromise anyone outside of the townie 6.

Dislike Drew, Umlaut and bob overusing the word ping. I started noticing it when I first "pinged" Drew that apparently everything pings drew. Then suddenly everything pings bob. Umlaut has been enjoying calling things reachy in one liners. It's just lazy and I don't see Drew's initial case on Umlaut (above post) as being real. Add to the fact that I felt like Umlaut was trying to launch us out of RVS by page two I'd like to mercy kill these two slots. I could probably come up with something more compelling but this is where I'm at without making a wall.

I don't want this lynch but I would still do it, if the alternative is you, manatee or no lynch, what would do you, drew?

And a wagon on you wasn't even plausible a few pages ago. A repeat of these voters appearing won't happen for Norwegian.

Where was this willingness to lynch drew when it mattered? Because some end of day show that you would

totally lynch Drew guys

doesn't mean shit to anyone.

Do you think Manatee is scum, or do you think my brilliant scumplay here is to actively draw attention to myself in order to dismantle a wagon on town at the end of the day?

No I quite literally believed you and Drew were scum. I'm still running the calculations.

This is very scummy progression. BR puts Drew/Umlaut in the same scummiest scumtier. Then BR says he doesn't want a Drew lynch but then he reiterates that he's thinking Umlaut/Drew are scum together. His vote being parked on Nahdia in a lesser scumtier when Drew was gaining traction and a Nahdia wagon was pretty non-existent makes me believe that BR was not actually feeling conviction to lynch the Umlaut/Drew D1.

VOTE: Black Ranger

[Wake1]

I would be open to a Black Ranger lynch.

[Fenraiser]

I would be open to a Black Ranger lynch.

You can reread him now or vote him here and reread after.

[Nahdia]

Not gonna buy any "no scum on Drew wagon" stuff

again my point isn't that i think there definitely wasn't any scum on drew's wagon. my point is that i think it's scummy to use "someone bussed drew" as a foundational assumption when there's a distinct possibility it was all town. feels like a logical leap shortcut to look like your reads are justified.

[Nahdia]

VOTE: Black Ranger

[Wake1]

I would be open to a Black Ranger lynch.

You can reread him now or vote him here and reread after.

I'm still deciding, and observing how people act, like Nahdia's vote down below.

[Wake1]

I would be open to a Black Ranger lynch.

You can reread him now or vote him here and reread after.

I'm still deciding, and observing how people act, like Nahdia's vote down below.

Er, above.

[Fenraiser]

Votes aren't the only way to bus someone. BR's reads progression regarding Drew didn't match his EOD behavior interactions with Drew or any one else. Coupled with Umlaut's post early in the day, I think BR knew Drew would flip scum and knew Drew was probably gonna be the lynch so he simultaneously distanced himself from Drew by not voting and saying he doesn't want to lynch Drew and set up the idea of an Umlaut mislynch via association.

Gonna reread Umlaut too and see his thoughts better but BR is probably scum.

Umlaut consolidation attwmpt on Wake is towny.

[Fenraiser]

Is this what Umlaut was trying to say and I didnt understand uwu?

[Black Ranger]

Yeah okay this is all very cool

It's clear I was referring to the Manatee wagon from that post and one I made to Drew later:

I don't want this lynch but I would still do it,

if the alternative is you

, manatee or no lynch, what would do you, drew?

Thus, I didn't want the lynch in the first place. Look how fast their and my wagon has gathered momentum. Yet we got nowhere on other wagons. What does that tell you?

What I mean by this is I feel there were better options listed earlier that were tellingly overlooked.

Why we have not tried to start a wagon on Nadhia is beyond me. There's more merit there than in Manatee.

I'm just going to move on from this point, because nobody actually writes "I don't want to lynch because I'm not convinced it is a good one" without meaning "I don't want this lynch because I'm not convinced it is a good one" or "I don't want to lynch Manatee because I'm not convinced it is a good one". Our reactions were different but I'm reading less into it because it's easier if you're just scum.

If any of the three of you are town fuck off.

[Wake1]

Black Ranger could you please explain why you cast the initial vote for Drew but weren't on it when he was hammered?

Because I was interacting with people in real time and

didn't want to show where I was on the matter

. I briefly thought Drew was townie during "osuka thinks you're scumslipping" but he didn't bother to talk to me about his Nahdia read. I should have voted him there before I left I guess, but

I was milking it for responses

and thought a speedlynch was more likely over no lynch so I literally did not lose sleep over it.

Could you explain this a little more?

Part of me feels it's from a Scum perspective, but I want to give you the opportunity to explain this first.

[Umlaut]

Votes aren't the only way to bus someone. BR's reads progression regarding Drew didn't match his EOD behavior interactions with Drew or any one else. Coupled with Umlaut's post early in the day, I think BR knew Drew would flip scum and knew Drew was probably gonna be the lynch so he simultaneously distanced himself from Drew by not voting and saying he doesn't want to lynch Drew and set up the idea of an Umlaut mislynch via association.

The second sentence of this is something I think I was saying, but I don't think the rest of it is. There is more to busing someone than voting but it's kind of a necessary component. This might just be a disagreement over the semantics of the word, though I really don't know how "not voting for someone and saying you don't want to lynch them" can in any way be construed as busing.

(Aside: I'm going to consider a "lynch all uwuers" policy for my next game)

[Black Ranger]

I voted Drew before the wagon was viable. In that time I also voted bob because nobody else voted Drew. Bob claimed and the wagon fell apart. I vanitied Nahdia during the Manatee wagon. I didn't move back to Drew because I wanted to keep him talking, but at some point he didn't realize that I was talking to him as if there was a possibility that he was town (previously I didn't want to talk to him at all because he was an asshole to me), even if it didn't translate well (see: "it's easier if you're just scum"). At that point he didn't comment any more in any meaningful way, shit out some WIFOM reads and left.

If you think it's a scum perspective vote me.

[Fenraiser]

What do you mean by "vanitying" Nahdia?

[Black Ranger]

If I wanted to set up an Umlaut mislynch wouldn't I have rested on it until today? Also, it's not like there is a shortage of lynchbait here. I'm willing to lynch > half the players in the game right now, you're just going to get a lot of push back on some of the slots until I think some town up over the others.