I'm extremely sorry that the Plum half here has been very busy and DGB has been pulling out hydra's weight here in Beta. I'm making a super awesome recap of the entire game thus far.
sex w/ shafteds wife club wrote:Raging Wishbone wrote:I think this game should be over by page 31 (3 scumkills),
This seems to imply knowledge of the SK vs. Vig option.
I don't see what benefit that gave - the scum wouldn't have inside knowledge, and I don't see it very much pointing to an SK implying that the second kills each action period aren't SK kills. Any inside knowledge would indicate Vig, so why out this (note that I don't personally think it indicates either; I'm concerned with sex club's thought process here)?
PoketheAlpaca makes a very noticeably useless post:
PoketheAlpaca wrote:I agree with everyhting PF has said.
Ill reread later.
Yeah. Especially in this game we're looking for all posts to have substance and useful contribution - extreme post conservation is not necessary and probably not optimal. But avoiding pure fluff is a very good thing, and pure fluff is a pretty bad thing. However, the next post by the pair catches the same concern I had with sex club as noted above.
Pesco Light wrote:And you say this without signing your post. And I've already given you my stance. This doesn't cut it.
So, anyway, on that note, I'll add an
FoS: Every post signer
Pesco Light, I understand why you think that signing posts might not be your stuff and why you might think it's not optimal. I don't see you explain, up to that point, why it's so clearly optimal to avoid signing posts and why scum would have a strong motivation to sign their posts that you think this is at all a viable FOS.
Following my train of thought on sex club:
sex cub wrote:I'm more just wondering where RWishbone cooked up those numbers. And we all know a vig is in the game, the knowledge he displayed would actually suggest he knows there isn't a vig in the game.
If by Vig you mean 'either Vig or SK' it would suggest that one or both of you hasn't read the Mod's first post carefully and deduced that there's definitely one or the other, but not both.
Incamnito wrote:I propose we simply lynch them. Now. And then see what people have to say about that.
Unless they want to try helping the town, that is.
Bit
hasty?
Zmd wrote:Fuuny how Hoopla/Ort calls Poke's wagon opportunistic and then jumps on the new popular wagon.
Unvote, Vote Ortohoops
Ortohoops' vote was on A&B for gut + a vote that
looked opportunistic
. It's one thought and the train there is straight. It was much less opportunistic-seeming than A&B's - they jumped a wagon with a mere 'I agree with Yosariwen". One hopes for more elaboration, especially in a game where concentration of substance is even more important than usual. Thus I kinda dislike this vote on Ortohoops.
Apples and Banana wrote:sex w/ shafteds wife club wrote:Why has apples and bananas wagon died? Because they decided to try to look like they're playing the game? All they did was agree with Yosariwen's point and hide behind them. Agreeing is fine. Wagoning is fine. No original thinking = scum.
You expect all 12 hydras in the game to all have completely original thoughts on different players by page
TWO
? Its a game where conserving posts is essential, and you're trying to say I'm Scum for not having said much by page TWO?
You might have elaborated, mentioned other things which had caught your eye, looked worthy of comment and/or shady. It'll be my mantra: "Not conservation of posts! Consistent concentration of substance!" So yeah, basically, I am seeing A&B as fairly scummy by this point.
Incamnito wrote:Now, I did vote Hogfather... but I don't recall saying it was for only 1 post. I don't like his tone, and I don't like this so-called "character" he is using. In this thread OR in the sign-up thread.
If he was using the character in the signup thread it's iobviously not indicative of alignment, especially puttering about the RVS. What about his "tone" pinged your scumdar (or was it unidentifiable gut matter?)? It seems DGB likes you at this point, but I'm less certain right now; my eyes aren't exactly imploding, if you get my drift.
Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:I am willing to hammer A&B if the claim is unsatisfactory. My second head agrees.
Absolutely.
Apples and Banana wrote:68 - Explains that he thinks wasting posts isn't scummy, and that Scum actually probably won't do it...WHAT? I think he knows exactly if the Scum are or aren't wasting posts.
Unvote, Vote: Ortohoops
He explains why scum, while they have a moderate motivation to spam with fluff posts they have at least as much to make sure not to
blatantly
post fluff (bringing the far-off recharge closer by a tiny bit versus not drawing undue attention to themselves and not looking like hypocrites when they jump on townies who've done it). Ortohoops' thought process doesn't look scummy (I'm not sure I entirely agree, however) and does not in any way seem to indicate inside knowledge of scum tactics over the far more likely application of decent reason and deduction. Vote reeks. Also, why no claim? You're going to be wasting our time here . . .
Another refusal to claim? Scum determined to make us use as many posts as we're willing to before going off and dying? HOUSTON ALL SYSTEMS ARE GO.
Apples and Banana wrote:Whether I am Vig or SK, I still provide an extra kill to the Town every cycle.
Beep beep beep. This sort of argument, whether made by town or scum, always seems to make me want to pull out my own wisdom teeth. Luckily they're already gone.
Apples and Banana wrote:Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:Apples and Banana wrote:Whether I am Vig or SK, I still provide an extra kill to the Town every cycle.
I take this as confirmation that you are a SK.
Hammer please before he kills a townie.
I've submitted a kill for this cycle anyways. Don't waste any more posts on my wagon, let me help hunt for the actual Scumgroup.
Yeah, you confirmed DGB's thought right there.
Raging Wishbone wrote:Zaphod = Town (free pass)
For a lot of this game I seem to recall you saying you weren't comfortable with us on a gut level. Why the mind change?
Caught the SK; excellent. Now I need to go back for more tells and analysis. Grrr
.
J-Scope wrote:Zaphod: Why are your posts so short? That looks more like DGB style than Plum style. Has Plum said much?
No, Plum hasn't, and she apologizes profusely and promises to pick up the slack, as above.
PoketheAlpaca: No votes in the game besides the random ones. First actual scumhunt-related point comes in his Post 4, and it's not discussed in much depth, either. Next post is longer and ostensibly more substantial, but all we come out with is "Oh, not much to discuss except I have a few under-explained vibes".
Vote: PoketheAlpaca
[i]"That's it,' said Zaphod with the sort of grin that would get most people locked away in a room with soft walls."[/i]