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MOD ANNOUNCEMENT

Kokichi Oma replaces Saudade

Votecount 1.17

Keyser Söze(4)

~ Shoshin(138), Varsoon(114), Irrelephant11(105), Not_Mafia(9)

Xtoxm(3)

~ Performer(48), AlmostNancy(263), Nauci(113)

Performer(1)

~ Mitillos(36)

Mewtaph(1)

~ skitter30(102)

Kokichi Oma(1)

~ the worst(199)

Creature(1)

~ Creature(107)


Not Voting (4): Keyser Söze(54), Xtoxm(55), Mewtaph(6), Kokichi Oma(19)

With 15 alive it takes 8 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2018-12-13 17:15:17)

FLAVOR

Spoiler:

[Keyser Söze]

Relly, stop name dropping me please.

Are you trying to sort me or put unnecessary empty pressure on me? You’re not helping me re-evaluate your slot either.

Let me read and post in the next 4 days. I won’t force out content for the sake of it. Then you can decide whether to lynch me. I’m already the lead wagon (I’m not hiding or avoiding the game) you don’t need to keep pushing me as ‘Keyer is scum lurking’, that just makes me turn off.

Surely there must be an active player to look at right now.

Thanks.

[Keyser Söze]

Do we have time to pressure wagon me?

I think you are over confident scum who has found themselves in a comfort blacker of being town read.
I think you’ve shed easy town reads on the obvious names, while focusing on the players that the majority think look ‘bad’... the Performers... the xtoms.. mew... and now me when I became lead wagon:


Your “Okay, I'm getting why Keyser could be scum now” line is terrible. No you don’t.

I’ll dig up your whole ISO tomorrow. I bet it won’t show you taking the initiative in sorting someone first though. But limping onto to someone after the majority give it the green light.

I don’t buy it as town who doesn’t know who is who.

[Keyser Söze]

Comfort Blanket*

[the worst]

that confirmed fast, gj everyone

VOTE: Keyser

wait what am I doing
VOTE: almost nancy

???

i know nothing about the flavor!

It's like Minecraft, but you dig stars instead of mines

I fucked up this quote
meant to quote Shoshin saying this was town!rrelephant super early on r i p

I think creature doing his ??? thing then reacting positively to Shoshin's TR of rel is pretty fluid and the kind of thing that paralyses him as scum (he sheeps Shoshin here too as indicated by his townlist)

the worst is town, shoshin is town
skitter is more likely town than not
creature is probtown

Agree, agree
Yeeeeeh...agree
Agree

I think he's hesitantly townleaning skitter here more because she wasn't super alignment telling earlier on before he was doing it for wolf related reasons

good scum!Creature can fake townreads and him soft-tiering them without drawing attention to it is kinda towny

I predict that I'm going to have a lot of trouble reading Creature

this whole ridiculing Mitillos thing and later not townreading him kinda checks out in my book

Mitillos has been v towny and isn't likely to be a mislynch regardless of how Creature handles him, I think this is another TR that would be easy to sheep and I don't disagree with his oppositioj to it but I don't think that's scum indicative

I remember having some handful number of townreads but didn't mention them through the thread because it felt too obvious

Please mention. Join us townreaders!

but I didn't keep track of them :/

I've spoken about this, I'm not sure this exchange comes from scum!Creature as often as town!Creature. it's too messy for his scumgame, I think he just doesn't mention it at all

Irre, Nauci, Shoshin, Varsoon, Xtoxm...

Oh right good addition

not sure whether you played with retro Transparent!Creature but there used to be a metatell "creature without his crossout lists is scum!Creature"

this tell has gone cold because he's kinda gotten bored of his crossout lists in general I think? but the way he's listing out his strong townreads imitates the sentiment of his retro lists imo

Irre, Nauci, Shoshin, Varsoon, Xtoxm...

Woops, I forgot you

Irre, Nauci, Shoshin, Varsoon, Xtoxm, the worst...

I think I just got tired of cross lists

but I still feel proud when I see someone using it (specially ICs in newbies explaining that kind of readslist)

Just quotes backing up my point that I think we're looking at 2018 burned out creature's version of the crossout list

You know if varsoon wasn't in this game I would just replace out at this point because the attitude coming from many players is totally disgusting

Oldhype!me would probably townread this too, not sure about newlazy!me

^^^^
Accountability checking his own stronger townreads

Okay, Performer is really a good wagon choice

Pushing scumreads to be wagoned d1 is a towntell for creature I think (I know how derp this sounds but the dude is infamous for hating playing scum)


I hope this helps a bit. I'm a bit short for time so I'm not hard alignment casing him, just trying to show why I think he's town. Countercase or tell me I'm bad if you disagree and have the time

[Nancy Drew 39]

Oh 4 days not 3, not as bad as I first thought
I’ve decided Skitter is definitely town
I don’t think she feels weird about Keyser & others’ lack of townreads unless she *really does* have a bunch of townreads to compare that feeling to

Tw why are you townreading Creature here? I don’t think anything he’s done is damning but I feel like I have reasons to townread most players and he is not one of them
Xtoxm could still be scum @everyone btw, he’s been slightly towny but not enough to climb up my PoE much
I asked about Varsoon/xtoxm team not because I think their interactions show an obvious s/s play but because they almost seem *too obviously* not aligned??? If that makes sense, as if Varsoon decided “I’m sticking my neck out for the scum” would be a strong distancing play, and it maybe feels overdone?
But that might just be me

Mewtaph feels towny but I’m still not really finding much that is strong I can point to as a reason why, which sorta nullifies the feeling imo. Maybe Keyser is just scum who doesn’t want to be scum here?

Agree, Skitter really seems frustrated by not being able to read us but this is definitely Creature town meta, we’re seeing here. Creature doesn’t do this as scum - unless he absolutely has to.

[the worst]

Also like Xtoxm is such an unlikely townread for Creature to call before the wagon fully dissipated. Just noticed this

[the worst]

I guess it makes sense from a technical POV if they're s/s but that doesn't feel like creature's style either

[the worst]

I'm not having an easy time reading Mewtaph so far (but he's just put of catchup mode so maybe that's normal idk)

There's a keyser shaped hole in my soul....... I don't really want to lynch there d1 tbh

Lerf/AlmostNancy/Nauci I think you need to scumcase Xtoxm or move your votes

[Nancy Drew 39]

I guess it makes sense from a technical POV if they're s/s but that doesn't feel like creature's style either

If there is scum between Xtoxm and Creature, I seriously doubt it’s Creature. I just finished a game with him. Creature never fakes this sort of thing.

[AlmostNancy]

I guess it makes sense from a technical POV if they're s/s but that doesn't feel like creature's style either

If there is scum between Xtoxm and Creature, I seriously doubt it’s Creature. I just finished a game with him. Creature never fakes this sort of thing.

Shit!

Sorry mod.

[the worst]

I think they're t/t atm anyway

[AlmostNancy]

I'm not having an easy time reading Mewtaph so far (but he's just put of catchup mode so maybe that's normal idk)

There's a keyser shaped hole in my soul....... I don't really want to lynch there d1 tbh

Lerf/AlmostNancy/Nauci I think you need to scumcase Xtoxm or move your votes

I'm not having an easy time reading Mewtaph so far (but he's just put of catchup mode so maybe that's normal idk)

There's a keyser shaped hole in my soul....... I don't really want to lynch there d1 tbh

Lerf/AlmostNancy/Nauci I think you need to scumcase Xtoxm or move your votes

We’re good but you’re concern is noted.

[AlmostNancy]

Whoops, how did that happen?

[Irrelephant11]

MOD ANNOUNCEMENT

Kokichi Oma replaces Saudade

Votecount 1.17

Keyser Söze(4)

~ Shoshin(138), Varsoon(114), Irrelephant11(105), Not_Mafia(9)

Xtoxm(3)

~ Performer(48), AlmostNancy(263), Nauci(113)

Performer(1)

~ Mitillos(36)

Mewtaph(1)

~ skitter30(102)

Kokichi Oma(1)

~ the worst(199)

Creature(1)

~ Creature(107)


Not Voting (4): Keyser Söze(54), Xtoxm(55), Mewtaph(6), Kokichi Oma(19)

With 15 alive it takes 8 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2018-12-13 17:15:17)

FLAVOR

Spoiler:

Kokichi! Welcome!
Keyser I’m trying to sort you and your *lack of posts* is a thing to sort
I don’t feel like your name is in my mouth more than anyone else’s name, I find it a little weird that you do - but maybe I’m remembering wrong. I still want you to be town and am more than prepared to townread you when you catch up, so I also think you’re a little overdefensive here

[Keyser Söze]

OK, going to step down from my Relly-Nauci aligned theory... [the new un-aligned feels more to do with Nauci's deep adoration posts about Relly (which is more likely pocketing or NAI than scum talking about their

partner

).]

Plus, I will accept Nauci's unwillingness to force out a read on Relly early D1 (

"I outright withhold judgement on Irrelephant11 for the time being"

) points to tentative-townie who doesn't want to jump into a read so easily with Relly.... due to their experience with him also.

So the aligned-team theory was probably all Relly's side of interactions... so I'm gonna drop that dead case now and look at them individually.

[Nauci]

Relly, stop name dropping me please.

Are you trying to sort me or put unnecessary empty pressure on me? You’re not helping me re-evaluate your slot either.

Let me read and post in the next 4 days. I won’t force out content for the sake of it. Then you can decide whether to lynch me. I’m already the lead wagon (I’m not hiding or avoiding the game) you don’t need to keep pushing me as ‘Keyer is scum lurking’, that just makes me turn off.

Surely there must be an active player to look at right now.

Thanks.

This is such a weird post

Thus far your small collection of posts have been so weird I can't figure out what mindset would have come up with them

Inb4 3p

[Keyser Söze]

@Relly - I'm back home now and this game is top priority now: I'll probably be on every page for the rest of the game now.

'Over defensive' - ok, but that is one of my strengths.

[Keyser Söze]

This is such a weird post

Thus far your small collection of posts have been so weird I can't figure out what mindset would have come up with them

Inb4 3p

I'm town

I am curious if group scum would push me as 3rd party though ( )

[Nauci]

Lerf/AlmostNancy/Nauci I think you need to scumcase Xtoxm or move your votes

I don't understand this request

Xtoxm and mew are the two players I have scum cased while waiting for Keyser and saudade-slot to make content

Where are you lynching today when you just eliminated all of the current people wagons and have your vote on a basically empty just replaced in slot!?!

Like you're not showing signs of scum worst but this almost feels like classic scum signs to not be able to scum case anybody O_o

And I don't understand how you're so sure xtoxm is town that you'd sooner go after varsoon!?!

[Keyser Söze]

Relly, do you feel in anyway pocketed by Nauci? If you're town reading her, are those town feels attributed to all her actions/behaviour outside of her town reading you?

Does this make sense

[Shoshin]

Also like Xtoxm is such an unlikely townread for Creature to call before the wagon fully dissipated. Just noticed this

Yeah I think this is a good point on town Creature.

[Shoshin]

VOTE: Kokichi

[Nauci]

Creature, this applies to you too. Too close to deadline to be making fun of existing wagons or joking about being wagoned or self voting. Who are you scum reading?

Also

Scum on this site self votes a lot

[AlmostNancy]

OK, going to step down from my Relly-Nauci aligned theory... [the new un-aligned feels more to do with Nauci's deep adoration posts about Relly (which is more likely pocketing or NAI than scum talking about their

partner

).]

Plus, I will accept Nauci's unwillingness to force out a read on Relly early D1 (

"I outright withhold judgement on Irrelephant11 for the time being"

) points to tentative-townie who doesn't want to jump into a read so easily with Relly.... due to their experience with him also.

So the aligned-team theory was probably all Relly's side of interactions... so I'm gonna drop that dead case now and look at them individually.

Do you really think if Nauci was scum, she wouldn’t be voting for you? But I feel pretty good about her being town here. I can’t recall anything that has pinged me about her posts, so I think you’re barking up the wrong tree here.