Open 812 Guardians of the Fortress - Game Over

[absinthe]

I'm undecided between catboi and S_S right now.

I feel like catboi suffers from my having little familiarity with his playstyle and I'm working on leveling that aspect of the playing field.

[Briar]

@Infinity, if you want a more condensed version of my read on you: if you are town, you are not obvious town to me compared to Ana currently and you need to do... something, I don't know what, to really prove it. Because I'm not getting to that point right now with you.

[Briar]

GTH I think you hammer catboi. I just don't think that S_S fits with Ana (doesn't bus) and Infinity (pushed S_S more over catboi).

[unwnd]

You believe what you want Ydra but the fact is that the whole game hates me should tell you either that I'm just a very popular guy or scum is just riding the trend

[Briar]

I also have a really dumb tinfoil regarding catboi finding out my identity and trying to nya at me or whatever to get social points. Yes this is a real thought my brain conjured up.

[Briar]

You believe what you want Ydra but the fact is that the whole game hates me should tell you either that I'm just a very popular guy or scum is just riding the trend

That's the roadblock that I have when it comes to you being scum right now. I don't get what the move is for scum if they're bussing at all. They can't win like that in a setup like this.

[Anastasia]

why would infinity need to prove anything to you?

infinity says she will vote for you

I said I will vote for you.

Neither of us really needs to prove anything to you.

The flip will speak for itself.

[catboi]

I don't think they did? At the very least, I was never against you being at the keep that I can recall. I didn't townread you as much as the other two, but I think I kept myself from expressing any reservation I had in-thread.

Absinthe at the moment wouldn't be anywhere close to my choices for the keep.

Hmm, then my thoughts changed somewhere between page 10 and page 34

I wish I had a serious answer for that, but I don't take notes and don't really remember my own thought progression on such things. At the time I had some unease with your question to Dunn in 120, your responses and your posts seemed a bit...monochromatic. I wish I could point to a single post where I changed my mind, but I really don't have one. It just became a body of work read where you looked continually solvey. I also figured you probably would have kept discrediting Anastasia as scum.

[Anastasia]

You believe what you want Ydra but the fact is that the whole game hates me should tell you either that I'm just a very popular guy or scum is just riding the trend

I think you are very p o p u l ar

I just believe you're scum and I'm quite loud and I should stop doing that.

[Briar]

I wanna be RIGHT still. :< Call it a pride thing.

[Briar]

And I still don't want to freeze out Infinity.

I think I should have stuck to what I originally wanted to do this gamephase if I remained in the Keep (not interact with either of you and just solve outside) but it's too late for that.

[unwnd]

You believe what you want Ydra but the fact is that the whole game hates me should tell you either that I'm just a very popular guy or scum is just riding the trend

That's the roadblock that I have when it comes to you being scum right now. I don't get what the move is for scum if they're bussing at all. They can't win like that in a setup like this.

Why did it even become consensus? D1 you had Ana who was dedicated in her solve and now D2 comes and I'm instantly scum for everyone

Even fucking lukewarm

[Briar]

You believe what you want Ydra but the fact is that the whole game hates me should tell you either that I'm just a very popular guy or scum is just riding the trend

That's the roadblock that I have when it comes to you being scum right now. I don't get what the move is for scum if they're bussing at all. They can't win like that in a setup like this.

Why did it even become consensus? D1 you had Ana who was dedicated in her solve and now D2 comes and I'm instantly scum for everyone

Even fucking lukewarm

I thought you were pretty towny D1, honestly. I think at this point though it's that there are other people that are either confirmed/close to confirmed and you sort of... didn't keep up, maybe? It's not like you're playing bad IMO, but this is a good table.

[catboi]

I also have a really dumb tinfoil regarding catboi finding out my identity and trying to nya at me or whatever to get social points. Yes this is a real thought my brain conjured up.

Wait, what? I'm still catching on the pages between 50 and now that I missed

[Briar]

It's also just the nature of the setup I think, knowing that there's exactly 1 scum in each group means that you get sized up fast and compared to the other two talking with each other you feel like the odd one out.

[Briar]

I also have a really dumb tinfoil regarding catboi finding out my identity and trying to nya at me or whatever to get social points. Yes this is a real thought my brain conjured up.

Wait, what? I'm still catching on the pages between 50 and now that I missed

It's very dumb and I am embarrassed.

[unwnd]

I just really see the game coming down to the Wall, not that I don't have faith in absin to make the right decision, but that's how I predict it

There's a slight breather inbetween each hammer mind you but I've been increasingly

How do I put this

Like someone is touching me and I'm telling them not to, but they're doing it anyways to get a rise out of me

That's been this whole D2 for me

[Briar]

Prickly?

[Briar]

Frankly if it comes down to the Wall I would want you and Dunn to cross and let Luke figure it out.

[catboi]

does unwnd AtE this hard if he's scum about to be boxed in? :s

I legit don't remember how he responded to pressure as town in FL vs Hectic

[Anastasia]

I think unwnd cares too much about self-preservation at the wall and not enough about getting the 50:50 at the gate right and that feels like a scum mindset to me.

[Briar]

I was too busy being cute in FL vs Hectic to recall anything from it.

[unwnd]

You believe what you want Ydra but the fact is that the whole game hates me should tell you either that I'm just a very popular guy or scum is just riding the trend

That's the roadblock that I have when it comes to you being scum right now. I don't get what the move is for scum if they're bussing at all. They can't win like that in a setup like this.

Why did it even become consensus? D1 you had Ana who was dedicated in her solve and now D2 comes and I'm instantly scum for everyone

Even fucking lukewarm

I thought you were pretty towny D1, honestly. I think at this point though it's that there are other people that are either confirmed/close to confirmed and you sort of... didn't keep up, maybe? It's not like you're playing bad IMO, but this is a good table.

I know what people have said but if I am being scumread as town I absolutely take it as playing bad.

I tried to correct this a bit later in D1 and my own self-assessment of quality play has gone down to the negatives

Now I can handle being scumread, I can handle disagreement

But I feel really iced out and it's fucking with my ability to solve

I feel like that's where my frustration stems

[Anastasia]

I am also horribly confbiased in my unwnd-infinity-ss solve :< sorry

[unwnd]

I think unwnd cares too much about self-preservation at the wall and not enough about getting the 50:50 at the gate right and that feels like a scum mindset to me.

You're not reading my thoughts because it is not about self-preservation in the slightest. It's a situation where I still need to read people but being confbiased upon makes it very difficult.