Really? Because that's like the main post that has me thinking iamausername is a likely auro-buddy.gamma wrote: -iamausername feels town earlygame, the hop off Auro here
In post 544, iamausername wrote:
UNVOTE: Auro
VOTE: VP Baltar
lost my taste for the Auro wagon right around this post.
in other news, AGar has now thoroughly ingratiated himself into my town reads - can't imagine this post coming from scum - there are clear benefits for scum to not alerting everyone to the source of the misunderstanding, pretty much regardless of Blair/Starbuck alignments.
just feels gut-town to me for some reason
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I got hella trashed last night on a zoom hangout, and was hella trashed on said hangout when I posted that. I'll slap a bit more meat on that bone before the end of the day. In the meantime, I still can't spell slap without fucking it up first. Whoof.In post 1547, VP Baltar wrote:I see Agars post on gamma's slot, but is that it?
I like what UT's serving in 1546. Dope.
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It wasn't harmful. It was just odd the way the 50/50 came about. I was trying to wrap my head around it because it wasn't how I would have presented it - start the day off in one direction and then go ahead and say "Oh but wait, I have this 50/50 we can use," a bit later.In post 1595, Starbuck wrote:
AGar, given that what I brought forth is now true, why was it harmful of me to skill scumhunt or, at the very least, say where my suspicion lied outside of it yesterday?In post 1494, Starbuck wrote:
It probably is. However, I was already questioning MT's defense of both Auro and Porkens during Day 1. Like she literally took it upon herself to try and explain away Auro. Given that I scum read Porkens, the PoE doesn't look that great there. I think that if Porkens flips red, on top of Auro, that there's a high chance that MT might, as well.In post 1458, AGar wrote:This is inconsistent with later posting? If you've got this 50/50 that you felt necessary to bring today (I'm fine with D2 vs. D1), why are you prodding outside of it? 1-for-1 is always a transaction that benefits town, so it feels like you should be dead-set on Porkens or Farside.
I wasn't sure what was going to happen on the overnight, so I felt it pertinent to put down where I thought the PoE might be in case I was the NK choice.Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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first pass reread of D1 complete.
current conclusions:
the day would not have played out the way it did if VP Baltar was scum. VP Baltar is town.
AGar is also extremely obvtown. Llamarble (Gamma) too.
will probably skip isoreading these (and Starbuck, who is obvtown from d2).
so our candidates are:
Blair- bad push on Starbuck followed by general lack of any substance while the day seemed to be drifting towards a VP Baltar execution, followed by a sudden desperate lunge at ABR when he single-handedly shifted momentum to Auro. still reads extremely scummy to me.
CantLynchAPuppy- general apathy to everything. actually read a little less scummy than i expected, will try to pin this down in isoread.
Green Crayons- was wagonned early which led to VP Baltar counterwagon. at the time i saw this as a good thing, and therefore felt GC was probably town, but this seems a lot less solid in retrospect. further scrutiny is required.
Hoopla- conspiracy theory that she suggested Auro's VT claim in the hope that she could use statistics to push the execution somewhere else. not sure how much credence i give this, but it's definitely a concern. is generally a tricky one.
Kmd4390- has basically spent the entire game playing several pages behind everyone else. very difficult to get any kind of read on him as a result.
Morning Tweet- i get what other people are seeing here on, like, an intellectual level, but i'm still not sure i'm feeling it.
Untrod Tripod- actually almost put him in the obvtown category too, but for whatever reason, i feel a need to double check here where i don't with AGar/Llama. but generally found him to be very genuine throughout, doubt that anything will turn up.
xRECKONERx- i just reread D1 and i still don't remember anything in particular that Reck actually did on D1, but during D2 i remember him coming off extremely town, so i'm less concerned about that.
onto D2, which is mercifully a lot shorter. then isoreads.Elapsam semel occasionem non ipse potest Iuppiter reprehendere-
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yepIn post 1600, Kmd4390 wrote:
Really? Because that's like the main post that has me thinking iamausername is a likely auro-buddy.gamma wrote: -iamausername feels town earlygame, the hop off Auro here
In post 544, iamausername wrote:
UNVOTE: Auro
VOTE: VP Baltar
lost my taste for the Auro wagon right around this post.
in other news, AGar has now thoroughly ingratiated himself into my town reads - can't imagine this post coming from scum - there are clear benefits for scum to not alerting everyone to the source of the misunderstanding, pretty much regardless of Blair/Starbuck alignments.
just feels gut-town to me for some reason
username's progression from VPB->Auro->back to VPB makes sense as town from their iso I think - they were already suspecting VPB a bit and thought that the way VPB went after Auro was bad, so username went back to voting VPB. Also think that username's comment later that Auro looked more town for what Hoopla said about him playing very atypically compared to ordinary playstyles in general (or however that was phrased) seems perfectly fine.
tbf you could also replace the above with me explaining it by saying "yep, GUT" instead and it wouldn't be substantially different but that's how I feel about it-
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I'm going to do this more because a)username's wagon is bigger than hers and I'd much rather yeet Morning Tweet and b) I probably should actually vote someone I guess than because I'm particularly confident in MT being scum.
VOTE: Morning Tweet
So this feels like the WEIRDEST post in all of Morning Tweet's iso imo. I italicized basically all of it because none of it is actually talking about VPB - it's talking about Auro with ABR, and there's what feels like an unrelated vote on VPB at the end of it. farside also asked MT why she was voting VPB here fairly soon after and I don't think it ever got answered.In post 853, Morning Tweet wrote:In post 851, Albert B. Rampage wrote:I mean he seems more concerned with looking town. High effort, but not detail-oriented. He's usually a stronger scumhunter than he's here. Could be an off game, could be scum. We need votes to find out.I would not be surprised at all if this game is harder to get into for him. I suppose he could be scum but because of the likelihood that this is just a difficult game, it doesn't make me feel like he has any extra chances of being scum
VOTE: VP l-2
Like. It's just really strange to me that after feeling like she waffled on making a serious vote for 40 pages that the final vote to come out of it is unexplained and not even related to what she was taslking about in the post aside from the post kind of sort of defending Auro and VPB being the other wagon that ABR wanted. I'd appreciate other people's thoughts on this and a why from Morning Tweet on what exactly made her want to vote VPB then.-
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1672’s tldr is a pretty good reason to vote CLAPIn post 1584, VP Baltar wrote:GC, curious what you found the strongest points of the CLAP case to be."This Court has never held that the Constitution forbids the execution of a convicted defendant who has had a full and fair trial but is later able to convince a habeas court that he is 'actually' innocent." In re Davis, 557 U.S. 952, 955 (2009) (Scalia, J., dissenting).-
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Can you spin both of these out more? You’ve been p quiet and these suspicions don’t really have much meat on them.In post 1598, Kmd4390 wrote:- I think my biggest scum reads up to Page 54 are Cantlynchapuppy and iamausername for a combination of my early suspicions and their Day 1 votes. Cantlynchapuppy had a weird ABR vote right before Auro was eliminated and I didn't like iamausername's VP vote."This Court has never held that the Constitution forbids the execution of a convicted defendant who has had a full and fair trial but is later able to convince a habeas court that he is 'actually' innocent." In re Davis, 557 U.S. 952, 955 (2009) (Scalia, J., dissenting).-
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@Starbucks saying "at least i took a stance"
i thought my stance on Pork vs. farside would be pretty clear considering Pork was my highest tr.
@Gamma asking about the VP vote
VP and auro were both non townreads. they're the only two wagons. ABR was forcing votes. i found part of Auros case to be nai, and i hadnt looked deep into the rest of it probably as i made the vote. I just sheeped the VP wagon really because i didnt have too much of a preference at that time
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@MT[/]: what are your thoughts on user, CLAP, and kmd?"This Court has never held that the Constitution forbids the execution of a convicted defendant who has had a full and fair trial but is later able to convince a habeas court that he is 'actually' innocent." In re Davis, 557 U.S. 952, 955 (2009) (Scalia, J., dissenting).-
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i gave the small amount of thoughts I had on them yesterday. they deserve scrutiny but it's mostly already coming from other better players. My current thought is that its username>Puppy>Kmd in chances of being scum, with username/Puppy not being a possible team. think it's probable the 4th scum is outside them. the best hidden scum player on the team, probably someone who plays scum well but does not have a revelation (Except perhaps Hooplas revelation could be from scum)
see I was thinking scum needs to fake revelations to win the game since we can clear several players based off of them AND get scum hunting info from them. they need to disrupt that by faking some revelations surely. But either scum wasnt bold enough to do it or they just didnt think of that because Pork/Reck/stsrbuck arent scum and I dont think hoopla is either but for her i think its at least possible-
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You didn't take a stance with your vote for two days in a row according to EOD vote counts.In post 1610, Morning Tweet wrote:@Starbucks saying "at least i took a stance"
i thought my stance on Pork vs. farside would be pretty clear considering Pork was my highest tr.<3 Kise, Reck, dram, tans, & Kats <3-
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That's L-2 i think, 2 more 2 more
@Starbuck I guess i didnt make it clear enough towards end of d2. I had no intention of voting Pork and the only reason id vote anyone else would be if Starbucks claim were found to be faulty somehow. I didnt vote for farside immediately cause i wanted to actually reread and feel like i wasnt just blindly sleeping i guess. That never happened though.
Sucks that my voting pattern is the strongest lead town has rn but i guess that's how it rolls sometimes. Had i been energized enough to solve, would that have helped? Probably. 100% my bad for not giving my place to someone else during D1 when i realized i wasnt going to get into this like i should. I wanted to hold out until i didbut it didnt happen-
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Assuming you mean 1572.In post 1607, Green Crayons wrote:
1672’s tldr is a pretty good reason to vote CLAPIn post 1584, VP Baltar wrote:GC, curious what you found the strongest points of the CLAP case to be.
I'd repeat my question though because "all of them" isn't really an answer. Which specific points are you agreeing with most? Are there any that don't sway you?YOUR AD HERE
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I don’t really understand your Q. Or, I should say, the motivation behind it in terms of what you’re trying to clarify.
Cases usually don’t involve silver bullets. There isn’t one single thing that I think is the deal sealer. It’s the totality of Reck’s observation of CLAP’s D1 play. And I think CLAP is on a potential bus slot for the farside wagon."This Court has never held that the Constitution forbids the execution of a convicted defendant who has had a full and fair trial but is later able to convince a habeas court that he is 'actually' innocent." In re Davis, 557 U.S. 952, 955 (2009) (Scalia, J., dissenting).-
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an observation from left-field apropos of nothing;
In post 540, xRECKONERx wrote:well, for whatever it's worth, i'm not living long in this game because scum know something specific about me.
farside opted for a similar style of revelation-softclaiming as reck earlier in the game.In post 1445, farside22 wrote:Just an fyi i had some info too, which was why I believed star. My info helps scum more then town tbf.
though scum should be thinking about their strategy re: revelations, my intuition suggests that two scum wouldn't both soft a revelation D1.
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noIn post 1622, Hoopla wrote:could reck/farside both be so crafty?
also good catch bc if farside actually had a revelation that means everyone else who has one is town per the rulesetgreen shirt thursdays-
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oh i totally forgot farside said that. I still believe Recks. we cant full clear off of revelations because a.) maybe farside wasnt the real scum with one and b.) scum can still fake them anyway. I think the applies to any delayed revelations we might get in the future than it does to the existing ones though
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