Mini 1648: Mafia in the Noose Factory. (Game Over)

[Boonskiies]

Yeah. They're pro town roles. They die together. I'm not

actually

claiming lovers. *wink*wink*

[MonkeyMan576]

Yeah. They're pro town roles. They die together. I'm not

actually

claiming lovers. *wink*wink*

Unvote

For now.

[MonkeyMan576]

Unvote

that is.

[Boonskiies]

My reasons for wanting Zeb to claim are...get ready...I was PR hunting. Come at me.

I'm not PR fishing.

VOTE: BlueBloodedToffee

VOTE: Zebulin

I'm going to sheep this and join back on the Zebulin Wagon. I totally think this is town BBT, oh, and not only because him and I are lovers. In the Case of the Missing Doctor Pepper game, he started being a major focus and being put near hammer through many days. (we had one of the longest Day 1 of all time too, I believe.) I know meta shouldn't be used, but it feels like the same BBT I know, love, and kind of want to strangle sometimes.

VOTE: Zebulin

Zebulin's vote is super opportunistic. And he is voting VI play and not scum play.

Opportunistic and OMGUSy.

[Randomnamechange]

Interesting how tip goes hsrd after the people who vote him. Seems panicky.

[Cheery Dog]

Official Vote Count 1.06

Zebulin

(4): Luca Blight, BlueBloodedToffee, House, Boonskiies

randomidget

(3): pisskop, ploben, tip

BlueBloodedToffee

(2): Ponystar17, Zebulin

pisskop

(1): Always Mafia

tip

(1): randomidget

MonkeyMan576

(1): Slandaar

Not Voting

(1): MonkeyMan576

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2015-03-08 19:53:20)

Searching for replacement for Always Mafia

[ploben]

Yeah. They're pro town roles. They die together. I'm not

actually

claiming lovers. *wink*wink*

This is actually not true. They can be aligned the same or even in a town-mafia pair.

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Lover

[Ponystar17]

Can someone who disagrees with the BBT wagon please explain why anything anyone has done so far is more suspicious than bad logic and blatant PR-hunting? I don't think meta is an acceptable excuse for behaviour which actively attempts to decrease town's chances of winning.

What I mean by bad logic: acting like it doesn't matter whether PRs are outed now or many days later, acting like wanting PRs outed at all isn't pro-scum.

[House]

Can someone who disagrees with the BBT wagon please explain why anything anyone has done so far is more suspicious than bad logic and blatant PR-hunting? I don't think meta is an acceptable excuse for behaviour which actively attempts to decrease town's chances of winning.

What I mean by bad logic: acting like it doesn't matter whether PRs are outed now or many days later, acting like wanting PRs outed at all isn't pro-scum.

BBT is town because Zebulin is scum.

Vote Zebulin and you'll see I'm right.

[Ponystar17]

Ah, House. I missed your posting style in all of the 0 games I played without you.

[Zebulin]

My reasons for wanting Zeb to claim are...get ready...I was PR hunting. Come at me.

I'm not PR fishing.

VOTE: BlueBloodedToffee

VOTE: Zebulin

???

You make zero effort to ask about the thoughts behind the perceived contradiction and zero effort to build a case against the player you're voting on, and simply hope people will sheep you.

So I returned the favor.

If you want me to vote BBT, you'll have to do better than that.

Well, BBT outright lied. I'm wasn't trying to build a case on him, I was trying to pressure him to get a scumslip (if he's town there's no harm), but you ruined it.

BBT: Why is there the contradiction pointed out two posts ago?
House: Why are you assuming I want people to sheep me? (Don't sheep me. I'm not confident enough in my reads right now.)

A naked vote isn't pressure. If you had questioned him in the aforementioned post, it would have been pressure.

Your post was just, "Look err'body, vote this!"

No. No, it wasn't. I'm voting BBT because PR-fishing is extremely scummy and I have no idea why he wants to do it.

In some cases, VI play is the same as scumplay, and I think they are the same here. I also think BBT is a skilled player, judging from our last game together. Assuming he isn't a VI, his PR-fishing is scumplay.

Can someone who disagrees with the BBT wagon please explain why anything anyone has done so far is more suspicious than bad logic and blatant PR-hunting? I don't think meta is an acceptable excuse for behaviour which actively attempts to decrease town's chances of winning.

What I mean by bad logic: acting like it doesn't matter whether PRs are outed now or many days later, acting like wanting PRs outed at all isn't pro-scum.

BBT is town because Zebulin is scum.

Vote Zebulin and you'll see I'm right.

Why is the wagon on me accusing me of trying to get sheep, and then trying to get sheep?

[Zebulin]

BBT: If I'm just being a idiot, and PR fishing is good for town, could you explain in detail?

[ploben]

@tip & @Slandaar

Can you share your reads at this point?

[Slandaar]

Yeah. They're pro town roles. They die together. I'm not

actually

claiming lovers. *wink*wink*

Only pro-town when one of them is scum.

Can someone who disagrees with the BBT wagon please explain why anything anyone has done so far is more suspicious than bad logic and blatant PR-hunting? I don't think meta is an acceptable excuse for behaviour which actively attempts to decrease town's chances of winning.

What I mean by bad logic: acting like it doesn't matter whether PRs are outed now or many days later, acting like wanting PRs outed at all isn't pro-scum.

I am disappointed you didn't respond to me

I shall respond to you though!

I don't think Zeb is likely to PR-claim all game

One has to ask themselves; Why was Pony thinking about if Zeb is a PR or not?

This subtle PR hunting is much scummier than being straight forward.

@BBT: Answer my question please it actually had a point to it.

[Slandaar]

@tip & @Slandaar

Can you share your reads at this point?

I tend to find when I post my reads I stick with them a lot more. I prefer not to post them fully yet although they are hinted at. I have 3 suspects and am confident in all of them.

[Boonskiies]

Yeah. They're pro town roles. They die together. I'm not

actually

claiming lovers. *wink*wink*

This is actually not true. They can be aligned the same or even in a town-mafia pair.

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Lover

I said they are Pro-town roles. Look at the link you sent me...read it. Mhm...Look at the info bar under the picture. It says Alignment: Pro-Town.

I didn't say they were always both town. Please actually read before you make accusations. Thanks.

[Boonskiies]

Yeah. They're pro town roles. They die together. I'm not

actually

claiming lovers. *wink*wink*

This is actually not true. They can be aligned the same or even in a town-mafia pair.

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Lover

I said they are Pro-town roles. Look at the link you sent me...read it. Mhm...Look at the info bar under the picture. It says Alignment: Pro-Town.

I didn't say they were always both town. Please actually read before you make accusations. Thanks.

I'm dumb. There's a second picture. My apologies.

[ploben]

Yeah. They're pro town roles. They die together. I'm not

actually

claiming lovers. *wink*wink*

This is actually not true. They can be aligned the same or even in a town-mafia pair.

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Lover

I said they are Pro-town roles. Look at the link you sent me...read it. Mhm...Look at the info bar under the picture. It says Alignment: Pro-Town.

I didn't say they were always both town. Please actually read before you make accusations. Thanks.

Huh????? Look at the section under the section you told me to look at and see the alignment under that picture: Anti-town.

Please actually read before you make accusations. Thanks.

[Boonskiies]

Yeah. They're pro town roles. They die together. I'm not

actually

claiming lovers. *wink*wink*

This is actually not true. They can be aligned the same or even in a town-mafia pair.

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Lover

I said they are Pro-town roles. Look at the link you sent me...read it. Mhm...Look at the info bar under the picture. It says Alignment: Pro-Town.

I didn't say they were always both town. Please actually read before you make accusations. Thanks.

I'm dumb. There's a second picture. My apologies.

Lol? I did. Read the next post...

[ploben]

@tip & @Slandaar

Can you share your reads at this point?

I tend to find when I post my reads I stick with them a lot more. I prefer not to post them fully yet although they are hinted at. I have 3 suspects and am confident in all of them.

I'm curious here. You're saying when you post them you're more apt to ride those reads until the end. You're saying you have 3 suspects you're confident in. But you don't want to post them? Why not? I think we're on the same page but why not share your information and help us solve this?

BTW, I'm thinking your short list includes BBT & Pony. Not sure about you're 3rd.

[ploben]

@boonskiies

You sent your post while I was typing my post.

Sorry.

Reset!

[House]

Why is the wagon on me accusing me of trying to get sheep, and then trying to get sheep?

You should totally sheep me and find out.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

106 - Ploben, this is weak as fuck. Which is interesting for reasons explained later.

People's experience has no effect on a claim. Where have you plucked that from?

unvote
vote: Random

This is the 3rd time you have placed a random vote and I'm still yet to see any reasoning. Might wanna lynch you toDay.

111 - Zeb, it's very much not a rhetorical question. I want an answer. Your post was serious as well, I'm not buying you were having 'fun'.

115 - Weird unvote from Zeb. Especially as I found Ploben's reasoning for his vote extremely lacking. I don't usually do pre-flip associatives but something to bear in mind for later in the game is that Zeb and Ploben could be scum together. Would explain Ploben's comfort with placing the L-1 vote on his buddy and also Zeb's weird 'pressure vote' and then immediate unvote after a poor explanation.

112 - MY early L-1? I think you mean YOUR early L-1. You're using someone else's reasoning now for what I might have been doing? I think you're scum.

123 - No, House isn't anything near conf town.

[House]

115 - Weird unvote from Zeb. Especially as I found Ploben's reasoning for his vote extremely lacking. I don't usually do pre-flip associatives but something to bear in mind for later in the game is that Zeb and Ploben could be scum together. Would explain Ploben's comfort with placing the L-1 vote on his buddy and also Zeb's weird 'pressure vote' and then immediate unvote after a poor explanation.

I'll go along with your hunch on the associative on ploben if you lynch Zeb and he flips scum.

123 - No, House isn't anything near conf town.

You should listen to Boonskiies. He knows what he's talking about there.

[pisskop]

This is the 3rd time you have placed a random vote and I'm still yet to see any reasoning. Might wanna lynch you toDay.

You can try.

Random is scummy because he forgets basic things and is putting on a show. He's certainly scummier than Monkey, who has done faphall all game.
. Were I to sheep Slaandar/tip, would your response be different?