Blitz 18: Wedding Invitational Mafia - GAME OVER

Nachomamma8 · Mon Dec 14, 2015 3:02 pm

see that's why i didn't want to say i had paranoia of tammy

Nachomamma8 · Mon Dec 14, 2015 3:03 pm

In post 847, Tammy wrote:Actually I'm not sure I feel great about nacho :/

although for the record this is basically a scumread so i think we're even this game

Nachomamma8 · Mon Dec 14, 2015 3:04 pm

that gif is hypnotizing though, good work

Nachomamma8 · Mon Dec 14, 2015 3:05 pm

i think i'd set that gif to:

and that's about how i feel today

Nachomamma8 · Mon Dec 14, 2015 3:06 pm

In post 1069, BROseidon wrote:I kind of want to lynch nacho to get his avatar out of the game.

Holy fuck that thing is creepy.

it's a cake recommended by betty crocker to cook for your child when they turn 1
and we wonder why the world is so fucked up

Nachomamma8 · Mon Dec 14, 2015 3:15 pm

In post 1076, Tammy wrote:Would a ninja come back no result? I thought you got the same thing?

i was told that i didn't get a track result
i assume a ninja would be that my target went nowhere

Nachomamma8 · Mon Dec 14, 2015 3:15 pm

In post 1076, Tammy wrote:Would a ninja come back no result? I thought you got the same thing?

i was told that i didn't get a track result
i assume a ninja would be that my target went nowhere

Nachomamma8 · Mon Dec 14, 2015 3:16 pm

In post 1080, AngryPidgeon wrote:Only troubling thing is Nacho still being around and blocked.

i didn't think i was going to die yesterday after tomorrow's massive shitshow

Nachomamma8 · Mon Dec 14, 2015 3:16 pm

did you?

Nachomamma8 · Mon Dec 14, 2015 3:17 pm

like that mislynch was retroactively more hilarious than the psychic mafia one

Nachomamma8 · Mon Dec 14, 2015 3:22 pm

but that one's town

Nachomamma8 · Mon Dec 14, 2015 3:23 pm

no he's town too

but i think that could be fun anyways

Nachomamma8 · Mon Dec 14, 2015 3:28 pm

mala
gm
gif
notty

not necessarily in that order

Nachomamma8 · Mon Dec 14, 2015 3:52 pm

i'm feeling pretty good about bro yeah

Nachomamma8 · Mon Dec 14, 2015 3:52 pm

In post 1103, Ms Marangal wrote:Mala
Ceph
Nacho
Gif

This is a pitiful list but it's where I'm at

Think imma trust ap on bro

mara

0%

Nachomamma8 · Mon Dec 14, 2015 3:53 pm

putting a little faith in my BRO:

Vote: Mala

Nachomamma8 · Mon Dec 14, 2015 3:53 pm

notscience is almost confirmed town if mala-gm is a thing though

right bro???

Nachomamma8 · Mon Dec 14, 2015 3:59 pm

In post 1110, Ms Marangal wrote:How do you say 0% when you vote malawagob :/

your record of reading me correctly

Nachomamma8 · Mon Dec 14, 2015 4:03 pm

i claimed pr in like 5 pages

Nachomamma8 · Mon Dec 14, 2015 4:04 pm

my push on syr

also gonna point out you didn't defend me because you thought i was town; you defended me because you wanted to play with me

Nachomamma8 · Mon Dec 14, 2015 4:09 pm

In post 1117, Ms Marangal wrote:Why do you want lovers to claim?

Especially when them being outed will forsure lose us two townies

i don't think they are lovers

Nachomamma8 · Mon Dec 14, 2015 4:09 pm

but that would make sense

Nachomamma8 · Mon Dec 14, 2015 4:10 pm

so actually yeah i'm gonna drop this for now

Nachomamma8 · Mon Dec 14, 2015 4:13 pm

In post 1122, Ms Marangal wrote:Was also talking about thay one gwme where you got lynched d1 as a tracker thanks to mollie

as a cop.
you did read me right that game!

Nachomamma8 · Mon Dec 14, 2015 4:17 pm

it wasn't significant paranoia

Nachomamma8 · Mon Dec 14, 2015 4:31 pm

Nachomamma8 · Mon Dec 14, 2015 4:34 pm

i like trojans too

Nachomamma8 · Mon Dec 14, 2015 4:59 pm

In post 1148, GuyInFreezer wrote:But this is not a wall 1v1 thing.

This is for a lynch.
If people agree with it beforehand that is.

if by 1v1 you mean I sort of apathetically lynch you then okay

Nachomamma8 · Mon Dec 14, 2015 4:59 pm

Why do you think Mara is scummy?

Nachomamma8 · Tue Dec 15, 2015 1:51 am

Vote: goodmorning

Nachomamma8 · Tue Dec 15, 2015 1:53 am

Welcome home, Nacho.

Nachomamma8 · Tue Dec 15, 2015 9:58 am

In post 1199, Malakittens wrote:Let's someone use two actions in the following night instead of one.

flavor?

Nachomamma8 · Tue Dec 15, 2015 10:11 am

oh shush
i'm just curious at this point

Nachomamma8 · Thu Dec 17, 2015 2:22 pm

In post 1607, pieguyn wrote:
In post 1606, AngryPidgeon wrote:Also where in the 9 planes of hell did Nacho go.

he doesn't want to force himself into derailing my lynch (or alternately claim scum). duh

Hi pie!

Nachomamma8 · Thu Dec 17, 2015 2:27 pm

I'd be pretty sad if pie was scum

I am not as confident in reads as I was earlier, but I was refreshing pie because her opening felt really really genuine and we were on the same page with a ton of things

Nachomamma8 · Thu Dec 17, 2015 4:02 pm

In post 1613, AngryPidgeon wrote:So Im guessing you read Tammy's post about Pie? Cause it sounds like you did.

yeah I did
still feeling pretty good about pie

Nachomamma8 · Thu Dec 17, 2015 4:03 pm

Although...

In post 1622, pieguyn wrote:last scum is probably in {BRO, Nacho,

Do you really believe D1 Nacho is me as scum?

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 5:41 am

Blocked again, targeted GiF this time.

Vote: Notscience

I think the scumteam is Notty/Mala.

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 5:47 am

In post 1729, pieguyn wrote:first order of business: NACHO, where the fuck did you go yesterday? I don't think that if you actually saw me, as town, getting wagoned, your reaction is just "still feeling pretty good about pie" and then that's it. I think you'd put at least some effort into explaining is and/or doing something that ... might give people cause to actually back off of me.

I had a strong town read on you earlier in the game, I didn't really feel great about things yesterday because I'm a pansy/wasn't really in a "let's post in mafia games!" mood/counterclaim/tammy's "why the hell are you reading pie as town". You're wrong that my MO as scum is to cross my fingers and hope you die, though; either I push for your mislynch and play for short term and a pie mislynch or I continue playing long term and reaffirm my bus for my partner that was probably going to go through.

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 5:48 am

I don't know why I said GiF when I meant Marquis.

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 5:53 am

In post 1739, Tammy wrote:I don't think there's just one scum left. I think she just redacted the rest of the scum team.

i agree but empire is a little slow on the draw sometimes, be gentle with him

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 5:59 am

I don't really think my townread for Nati could get any stronger at this point, which is nice.
I think that the pie/Marquis dichotomy yesterday was both town and I think the way that notscience pushed people to resolving the CCs like there was guaranteed scum in the pair was scum trying to take advantage of that situation; I hate his response to pie that is the equivalent of "I failed at being me and played exactly like I do as scum".

With Mala, I don't like the way she tied GM to Mara earlier but never ended up pushing GM, and I really don't like Mala-NS interactions; Mala pushing NS when NS is pushing GM and NS just sort of letting her get away with it, NS throwing around the soft read on Mala but never actually pushing it and Mala letting him get away with it (and not including that push on her as part of her scumread on him), NS and Mala both compromising on non-GM options at the end of the day, etc. Would be interested in BRO's input on that interaction as well.

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 6:16 am

what do you think of notscience?

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 6:35 am

In post 1576, goodmorning wrote:what is this bg stuff ughhhhhhhh

can they really not both be bgs? i feel like there is some overreaction going on here.

oh yeah and i don't think GM says this unless both people were actually bodyguards
i also think the duplicate bodyguards makes sense with the duplicate investigative roles

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 6:35 am

Vote: Malakittens

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 7:30 am

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 7:37 am

And a rolecop.

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 7:38 am

I don't think I've explained my pie townread very well if at all.

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 8:03 am

i'd be more likely to explain it if I actually had a decent explanation for it (I don't).
i would have been much more likely not to back off yesterday if i had a decent explanation for it.

i just don't think the way pie approached this game would be how he would approach it as scum.

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 8:07 am

In post 1757, Natirasha wrote:
In post 1751, Nachomamma8 wrote:Why?

Why not?

because tammy is gearing up to vote mala and i want to sheep tammy before she votes

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 8:07 am

In post 1758, AngryPidgeon wrote:Hey guys I think Marquis is town

please stop circle jerking and just be town

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 8:11 am

pie is a dumb vote

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 8:11 am

you should sheep tammy and vote mala

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 8:11 am

or sheep natirasha and vote notscience
they are scum together, so voting either or is OK.

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 8:13 am

one of the parents have to be a demon anyways
it only makes sense

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 8:23 am

Probably one of you two.

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 8:23 am

I'm not weirded out they didn't kill me because pie.

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 9:49 am

In post 1771, Ms Marangal wrote:Maybe the way you feel about pie is the way i felt about gm

or maybe you're wrong about pie

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 10:07 am

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 10:07 am

and if mala is scum can i call you Carl for the rest of the game?

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 10:11 am

mala, how does your motivator role work?
are targets informed in the middle of the night that they are motivated and then get to use 2 actions or do they get to use 2 actions the next day?

motivator + duplications in town PRs also doesn't really make sense to me

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 10:12 am

the only real reason i'd leave mala alive is that i don't think motivator is a likely scum role but that's sort of it

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 10:16 am

In post 1783, AngryPidgeon wrote:Her ISO is wayyyyy too confident to be scum. And I don't mean that as a dig on Mala's scumgame, I mean that shes got some of that good town don't-give-a-shit going on.

Mala tends to play a stronger scumgame when she has scumbuddies that she enjoys.
She counterclaimed a vigilante as a gladiator and got away with it last time we played scum together.

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 10:19 am

In post 1783, AngryPidgeon wrote:And yes I realize that everyone's favorite pet team is Mala/NotScience right now. But there was also talk earlier in the game about how Mala never busses and I remember Nacho and BRO throwing that around. So I'd love to hear what came of that opinion that Mala and Notty on the same team doesn't make sense.

I didn't throw around a "Mala doesn't bus" scenario; I threw out that notscience was likely town if Mala-GM was scum together because I thought that Mala wouldn't bus her stronger partner while defend the weaker one but then I reread their interactions recently and saw that I really didn't like them. I don't follow meta of "Player always does X" or "Player never does Y" because that meta is extraordinarily easy to break.

In post 1783, AngryPidgeon wrote:808 is really a great example of what I see in Mala's ISO. She just doesn't seem to care that shes getting suspected at all aside from a personal pet-peeve vantage which really screams town to me unless Mala's scumgame has gotten shameless in recent days. Also Mala is being a bit pot-shotty to come from scum and none of her posts really feel directed or otherwise awkward. Not voting Mala this game.

I don't even know what the "too pot-shotty to be scum" quote means at all. What?

I don't think that Mala didn't care about the lynch; generally, when Mala doesn't care about being lynch she goes "I don't care about being lynched" and then stops posting.

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 10:21 am

well that's a lame post

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 10:25 am

In post 1788, notscience wrote:Lame pushes get lame responses

Why would you bring it up as a reason for you being town if you didn't really believe in it?

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 10:26 am

In post 1791, notscience wrote:But please explain my mentality behind those kills

Im all ears

You killed bork because he was a universal townread and because you had a roleblocker to shut me down.
You could have killed pie, but I'd imagine Mala/GM didn't really want to kill pie and you weren't going to shut that down completely because "fear kill".

You probably shot AP or Mara because they are confirmed town lovers.

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 10:27 am

In post 1793, notscience wrote:Oh no I fully believe it

I don't believe your push is fully thouggt through or you'd have had an actual response to that

What does "lame pushes get lame responses" mean?

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 10:35 am

In post 1793, notscience wrote:Oh no I fully believe it

I don't believe your push is fully thouggt through or you'd have had an actual response to that

It's also not like you've shot me N1 when you've played scum against me recently.
It's also not like you are so cripplingly afraid of a player where I should suddenly believe that you are very likely to be town if you don't kill them N1.

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 10:39 am

Nightingale's Tale was another time you've played scum against me.

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 10:39 am

In post 1797, notscience wrote:But that's not an answer I never fearkill for roles which you should know. I wouldn't have killed two people townreading me and I wouldn't have gave a shit what they want there was no reason to isolate myself. Mara was townreading me, yes, but shes just been repeating it whilst th is two could have probably articulated a reason to townread me

You wouldn't shoot two confirmed town lovers because...?

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 12:20 pm

pidgeon stop doing this to me

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 12:20 pm

you're being glenn peck again

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 12:47 pm

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 12:47 pm

we coulda hung out for an hour

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 12:48 pm

i would have bought you food at least!

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 12:48 pm

but i guess that's inconvenient

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 12:48 pm

because airplanes

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 12:55 pm

ceph are you in agreement with notty/mala or do you have a special hidden third?

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 12:57 pm

In post 1814, BROseidon wrote:
In post 1784, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 1783, AngryPidgeon wrote:Her ISO is wayyyyy too confident to be scum. And I don't mean that as a dig on Mala's scumgame, I mean that shes got some of that good town don't-give-a-shit going on.

Mala tends to play a stronger scumgame when she has scumbuddies that she enjoys.
She counterclaimed a vigilante as a gladiator and got away with it last time we played scum together.

In all fairness, town was almost trying to lose that game.

The point is that it was an incredibly ballsy move against some big name players. I don't think she's just a mild, meek scum player like Glenn seems to.

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 12:59 pm

In post 1816, BROseidon wrote:
In post 1786, notscience wrote:I clearly killed two people townreading me rather than fearkill nacho and pie

Because that's how I use my scumkills

I kind of think this post is a townslip, but thinking that also requires serious bm of ns's intelligence.

Which I'm actually completely okay doing!

you're right that it's a savvy move if the scumteam didn't shoot marquis
i'm not completely convinced the scumteam didn't shoot marquis

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 1:01 pm

In post 1820, BROseidon wrote:It wasn't that ballsy move in context.

More or less ballsy than these two quotes?

In post 802, Malakittens wrote:Notty

Please.

Ya'know you barely did this during the last blitz when you took over our hydra.

So not really sure why you're deciding to just lurk,
Naked vote and pretend you're being obv town when you really aren't =\

In post 808, Malakittens wrote:Alright,

so I reread those who have voted me. There's not one case really made besides maaaaaaaaaaybe Pieguy's case with 520. Something that struck me odd in regards to it is in TM Pieguy was really confident about reading me, but here she's seem to not be confident. Asking other people with experience to read me.

Other than that there's really no case on me.

AP was a naked vote almost, BRO was a naked vote, Cephrir's vote was naked along with Gif's/Mara's. It kinda comes off odd considering we had maaaybe Empire/Tammy as possibly reading me as scum. So I'm pretty sure that there has to be a scum or two hopping onto this train.

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 1:02 pm

BRO do you suddenly think that Mala is town?

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 1:02 pm

In post 1823, Cephrir wrote:Which one is optimal to lynch first? Like, if only one of them were scum, which one would it be?

Probably Mala; her interactions with GM are far more damning than NS's.

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 1:04 pm

In post 1827, Cephrir wrote:I would probably bet the game that marquis died making a save. i can't see any possible reason for that shot. if the scumteam wante dto kill a bodyguard they'd have hit pie if pie is town, and you think pie is town, so

I have a pet theory that isn't particularly important; I also agree that it's much more likely Marquis had a successful save, but there is a chance that he was shot.

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 1:04 pm

In post 1830, BROseidon wrote:
In post 1825, Nachomamma8 wrote:BRO do you suddenly think that Mala is town?

I pulled off of her yesterday after her claim, so I'm confused why you're using "suddenly" here.

I kind of eh on her at this point. Like, I wouldn't mind a lynch on her, but it doesn't ~excite~ me.

What excites you?

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 1:05 pm

In post 1829, BROseidon wrote:That would be a very stupid kill, imo.

It would be. That doesn't mean there wouldn't be reasoning for it.

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 1:06 pm

In post 1836, BROseidon wrote:Nobody :/

Pie should sort itself over the next few dayphases, and other than that I don't feel particularly strongly about anything.

sweet then time to trust early-BRO and kill Mala!

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 1:10 pm

cephrir is your secret suspicion named pie

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 1:12 pm

In post 1843, Cephrir wrote:It's not secret or a suspicion!

cephrir, your is named pie

i don't get it

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 1:12 pm

In post 1844, Cephrir wrote:I just don't ever believe that games are as easy as they look, and no one is ever right when they try to call the whole team

never is such a strong word

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 1:12 pm

even though you didn't use it

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 1:15 pm

i really hope we hit the roleblocker today

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 1:19 pm

i don't really have an opinion on that

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 1:30 pm

hey tammy you gonna vote mala with me or no

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 1:31 pm

or are you gonna predictably get mad at me for pressuring you and vote no one :/

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 2:14 pm

In post 1856, AngryPidgeon wrote:@ceph: , is that because you think mala is mafia?

hey glenn, could you look through mala again and talk about the stuff i brought up on her?
thanks bae

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 3:19 pm

Malakittens wrote:
*sigh* I really, really, really don't want to townread GM so early especially after the last game we played together. ;( (but I think 81 *could* be town her).

Malakittens to the person GM was arguing with wrote:
In post 192, Drixx wrote:Someone with 3 years on site should have seen this same scenario play out a gazillion times. You don't need to go diving through my games to know how often people make ridiculously stupid pushes on day one for no reason at all, and like 1 town player in 200 can manage to talk his way out of it. I'm just not interested in putting the effort in just to deal with more terrible semantics arguments and someone getting away with outright lying because the "case" is flimsy bullshit. I'm meant to be scum because I am supposedly defensive when I questioned someone who first claimed to have invested time (made a point of telling us that time was invested) in reading a game and coming after me with an "A-ha! You were in a game where that was used before, so you're a liar!" which obviously made it clear that he did a surface skim, at best.

We're coming up on 200 posts later and scum seem quite content to let you all make fools of yourselves.

That's not what I'm going to meta-dive you for......? I mean you can get a cookie to see why I'm going to meta-dive you (you won't because I'm going to tell you). You're defensive, you're aggressive and your ATF and ATE are both really bad. So I want to see if that's alignment indicative or not.

You're acting like caught scum tbh.

Malakittens wrote:TBH I think the scum team is Drixx / Vedith.

Drixx isn't voting his CW, which at this point of the time is Vedith, and Vedith isn't voting Drixx, but isn't even acknowledging what is happening here.

I'm pretty sure that GL & Exped are both town. Kinda sure on GM being town.

this interaction means you later not voting GM makes a whole lot more sense

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 3:20 pm

who did you motivate last night?
could you answer my motivate related question?

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 4:15 pm

OF COURSE YOU DO GLENN
OF COURSE YOU DO

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 4:15 pm

BUT GUESS WHAT

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 4:29 pm

In post 1869, Malakittens wrote:Kinda want it to be a ~surprise~ if you're gonna lynch me so scum can't RB it!

Us lynching you isn't confirmed.
This is dumb when confirming your role makes it considerably more likely that you are town.

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 4:29 pm

In post 1870, AngryPidgeon wrote:Nacho stop im giggling. Im swirling wine and giggling at you.

I'm drinking wine too!

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 19, 2015 5:21 pm

the only wagon that definitively sucks is the empire one

Nachomamma8 · Sun Dec 20, 2015 7:24 am

In post 1871, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 1869, Malakittens wrote:Kinda want it to be a ~surprise~ if you're gonna lynch me so scum can't RB it!

Us lynching you isn't confirmed.
This is dumb when confirming your role makes it considerably more likely that you are town.

mala, can you answer the question please?
ty

Nachomamma8 · Sun Dec 20, 2015 7:38 am

guys can we not do the thing where no one makes any fresh ass pushes for the entire day and then we end up lynching who momentum suggested we were going to lynch in the beginning?

Nachomamma8 · Sun Dec 20, 2015 7:49 am

The GM interactions re: Mala seem like a slam dunk to me. I'm not expecting her to read GM correctly 100% of the time, but what bothers me is that she never even considered a GM lynch despite not having a read on her ever; if she said "oh I think GM is town" it would be a completely different story or "this looks nothing like the other times I've seen GM as scum", but instead she just said "I don't really know" and then did nothing else, and she only pushed for interactions when GM was dead beyond dead.

The reason why notscience seems to fit into all of that is because I can see him being more willing to bus a deadweight partner than she would be, and I can see Mala pushing notscience to distance when he's the scum member that would go deep and he doesn't have a particularly large chance of being lynched.

Part of me stupidly wants to townread Mala for not claiming her motivate target but that doesn't really make a whole lot of sense in general.

I am curious if people agree with me that Mala is likely town if he actually does have a motivate; I'm not really 100% Rolecop + Roleblocker is enough to balance out tracker + kill cop + 2 bodyguards + motivator, but scum motivator + rolecop + roleblocker seems beyond broken as hell so I find that bit unlikely.

Nachomamma8 · Sun Dec 20, 2015 10:54 am

i'm excited!

Nachomamma8 · Sun Dec 20, 2015 10:54 am

ap can you talk with me about mala

Nachomamma8 · Sun Dec 20, 2015 10:54 am

please

Nachomamma8 · Sun Dec 20, 2015 11:07 am

Nachomamma8 · Sun Dec 20, 2015 11:07 am

why is that a worry i should have?

Nachomamma8 · Sun Dec 20, 2015 11:18 am

In post 1905, AngryPidgeon wrote:Mala was getting wagoned hard. As scum, I dont think she's double down on the "GM and I always get ML'd" bit. It would make GM look bad after she flipped and I think Mala would avoid doing that out of respect for GM. I think she'd make more of an effort if GM were in fact a buddy. The whole interaction is -lazy- and I think that points to it being town more than anything.

What do you think she does there?

Nachomamma8 · Sun Dec 20, 2015 11:29 am

In post 1907, AngryPidgeon wrote:I think she would have ignored GM as much as possible

?
she did do this though

Nachomamma8 · Sun Dec 20, 2015 11:34 am

In post 814, Malakittens wrote:Cephrir your vote is probably one of the worst of the votes on me. I mean you have barely interacted with me this whole game, but apparently found a way to hate every single post that I have written. It's just the timing of the fact you're willing to vote me when I'm pretty much in lynch range and then when the gear shifts you're willing to vote GM. It's like you are playing musical chairs and don't really care which one of us is lynched, but as long as one of them happens.

In post 827, Malakittens wrote:tammeh -- how do you feel about cephrir & GM?

In post 833, Malakittens wrote:I have only hydra'd with GM once so I never really got a feel about how she thinks during it as much as I liked. Plus every single game in the last ~3 months~ she's been scum. I mean I don't even think I know what town-GM would be like anymore ._.

In post 864, Malakittens wrote:Mara really.

I mean you really haven't done much but whiteknight GM and if she flips scum somehow you're going to look really bad. I haven't really AtE'd as so much besides complaining about it knowing this was a blitz game whereas I thought it would be a large. I'm not good with fast paced games. I think I'm perfectly aware of my boundaries of Mafia.

I really rather people take a better look at cephrir since that's where I'm betting a higher chance of scum is. He's only placed two votes so far this game and they have both been on the bigger wagons after they both have gotten steam.

VOTE: cephrir

In post 865, Malakittens wrote:I really don't feel like voting GM even if it's going to be my only way to live. I don't really know what to look for her tow game anymore and the fact my paranoia has lynched her in the past for similar things she's doing now. Plus I'm not really goin to vote someone where I don't really trust the wagon supporters either so.

In post 902, Malakittens wrote:I'll vote GM if it avoids a NL, but I'm not really set on GM-scum.

In post 960, Malakittens wrote:I think I've seen her say this when she's been a VT, but I know she also says shes when she's town too. I just don't really. I rather her just say it rather than us speculating tbh

(Nor do I understand why she needs to claim rn though /:)

In post 980, Malakittens wrote:ill address the firstpostin a minute, but when you get to your non-phone, I'd want you to elaborate on the Syr/GM thing.

In post 1071, Malakittens wrote:How'd I chainsaw for GM?? I have really only mentioned GM once this whole game and that was just making fun at a Syrana post. Are you sure you aren't confusing me with someone else?
Maybe Mara instead?)

In post 1354, Malakittens wrote:I truthfully think he's a higher chance for scum than GM.

In post 1497, Malakittens wrote:GM I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH YOU.

Nachomamma8 · Sun Dec 20, 2015 11:36 am

In post 1907, AngryPidgeon wrote:Its also that she was so proactive about defending GM. Going after Cephrir for it, talking about how they are always mislynched. I think it just makes more sense that she thought GM was town.

1) she attacked cephrir once for voting her and gm
2) she talked about she mislynched GM in newbie games and how they almost got mislynched in BSG because notscience said he didn't remember GM getting mislynched
3) it doesn't make sense to me that she thought GM was town because she never called gm town. i quoted another game where she got mislynched for defending gm scum and the difference between the two interactions is night and day.

Nachomamma8 · Sun Dec 20, 2015 11:36 am

ap i love you
you're being dumb

Nachomamma8 · Sun Dec 20, 2015 11:52 am

In post 1071, Malakittens wrote:How'd I chainsaw for GM?? I have really only mentioned GM once this whole game and that was just making fun at a Syrana post. Are you sure you aren't confusing me with someone else?
Maybe Mara instead?)

this is worse than that post tho

Nachomamma8 · Sun Dec 20, 2015 11:53 am

In post 1916, Empire wrote:I looked at notscience and I'm still not seeing what you're seeing at all, Nacho.

i'm a master scumhunter, i'll show you the light tomorrow

Nachomamma8 · Sun Dec 20, 2015 12:06 pm

wait actually empire i actually wanted to have a serious talk with you - who do you think scum number 3 is if not our good friend notsci?

Nachomamma8 · Sun Dec 20, 2015 12:07 pm

"idk, i suck" is an answer that will get you strangled, be warned

Nachomamma8 · Sun Dec 20, 2015 12:20 pm

you could be right
bro and cephrir feel like pretty crap scumreads

Nachomamma8 · Sun Dec 20, 2015 12:23 pm

well they're pretty crap "hey, i kinda forgot about these guys, maybe I should re-read them" reads

Nachomamma8 · Sun Dec 20, 2015 12:29 pm

i'm still pretty sad that i ever moved from gm day 1

Nachomamma8 · Sun Dec 20, 2015 12:30 pm

the only thing that's gonna make up for it is mala being the roleblocker

do you know how satisfying it would be to lynch the person blocking me?

Nachomamma8 · Sun Dec 20, 2015 4:49 pm

In post 1932, notscience wrote:Thoughts on nacho-scum derailing a lynch on his buddy and then keeping this gambit up about not getting results

Because it was pretty fucking outrageous and I feel like having all these prs running around is probably bullshit!

Anyways.

wow good reads

weren't you scum reading mala yesterday? and now... you're not?

Nachomamma8 · Sun Dec 20, 2015 5:09 pm

he's accusing me of derailing gm's wagon d1

Nachomamma8 · Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:07 pm

ap is the bride and or groom

Nachomamma8 · Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:08 pm

I don't understand why people are voting Nati for that post.

Nachomamma8 · Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:34 pm

In post 1972, AngryPidgeon wrote:Only one person is voting Nati for that post.

But really I dont see that one post as a pivotal reason to vote or not vote Nati. I see Nati's ISO as a great reason to vote Nati.

i was passive aggressively digging at bro with that

why is nati's iso scummy?

Nachomamma8 · Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:34 pm

In post 1974, BROseidon wrote:
In post 1972, AngryPidgeon wrote:Only one person is voting Nati for that post.

But really I dont see that one post as a pivotal reason to vote or not vote Nati. I see Nati's ISO as a great reason to vote Nati.

I think it's indicative of someone who's blatantly not reading the thread.

and why is this worthy of a vote?

Nachomamma8 · Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:41 pm

In post 1978, BROseidon wrote:
In post 1977, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 1974, BROseidon wrote:
In post 1972, AngryPidgeon wrote:Only one person is voting Nati for that post.

But really I dont see that one post as a pivotal reason to vote or not vote Nati. I see Nati's ISO as a great reason to vote Nati.

I think it's indicative of someone who's blatantly not reading the thread.

and why is this worthy of a vote?

b/c my limited experience with scum-nati involved a lot of her not reading the thread.

limited is right, then

Nachomamma8 · Tue Dec 22, 2015 4:23 pm

I will be crazy busy soon, will probably be pretty low-presence until Christmas Eve at the earliest, but likely won't be doing anything until Christmas/the day after.

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 26, 2015 8:53 am

LMAO I THOUGHT WE LYNCHED NOTSCIENCE YESTERDAY

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 26, 2015 8:54 am

I'm not even gonna claim anything now because of how stupid I was

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 26, 2015 8:59 am

also ap you're a butt and I'm the greatest

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 26, 2015 9:01 am

Vote: Pieguyn

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 26, 2015 9:04 am

In post 1620, pieguyn wrote:
In post 465, Malakittens wrote:
In post 450, Empire wrote:Mala, how closely have you been reading this game so far?

(going to run a couple of errands and then do a full reread)

Pretty caught up, even with the current posts, why?

Also I'm not liking Nacho so if anyone can shed insight on if this is town game and why please do!

VOTE: Nacho

Also Tammeh, I don't get you. You don't like people townreading that post; you don't like them scum reading the post.

plus besides that post I'm pretty null on you.

this was brought up on D1, but I thought this read slightly town. it didn't really look like pandering or fake paranoia.

In post 1354, Malakittens wrote:Tammy,

The reason why I'm not townreading Notty is because he seems to be lacking everything that j normally see from him in his town games. I don't really feel like he's believing in any of his townreads. I mean in the last blitz game he reached out to Mollie for reading is wrong and after her repeating ignoring him he went after for that. Here I haven't seen him really to reach out to anyone.

In the other game he didn't 'demand' everyone to townread him.

Just this whole game here seems different.

I truthfully think he's a higher chance for scum than GM.

(Not sure if this helps any with my explanation)

this is actually a fairly concise explanation that nails exactly why noddy isn't town here, and it is a part of why I'm town reading Mala here. btw, even if noddy was town somehow (he isn't), I'd still town read this since at worst he's playing off and Mala is validly calling him on it.

I also feel like this push in general has a decisiveness that I didn't see in the Team Mafia game where she waffled to shit on everything. she's been pretty consistently pushing him, and been
proactive
about it (compare to TM where it was just like "pie is scum" whenever I'd interact with her and then she wouldn't draw quite as much attention onto it afterward until I came back and continued pushing her).

In post 1086, Malakittens wrote:VOTE: notty

If you're town i wanna see it.
If you're scum I wanna see you roped.

this would be a weird strategic decision as scum because she was the leading wagon, iirc the only wagon, and given her knowledge of noddy's town game (going hard on people he knows pushing him), it would pretty obviously tip him off when he wasn't voting or really pushing her. there are "unlikely" reads you'd make to get town read as scum, I doubt this is one of them.

the last point is actually a good point for mala-notty

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 26, 2015 9:08 am

and actually pretty sure it's notty, but let's lynch pie so Tammy doesn't complain post game if she's right/everyone can make fun of her if she's wrong

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 26, 2015 9:10 am

Mara, me, bro, cephrir, notsci everything is good and gravy

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 26, 2015 9:11 am

In post 2082, Natirasha wrote:Hey Nacho wanna bet that someone's gonna to try and push me because I advocated ns yesterday now?

I'm gonna bet 20 bucks that someone is AP

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 26, 2015 9:11 am

who will also call not science town today

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 26, 2015 9:15 am

please stop stalling the game out and vote pie

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 26, 2015 9:15 am

U2 Nati, it's a blitz game, let's quicklynch before ap has horrible reads again :'(

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 26, 2015 9:16 am

Quicklynch today for a better tomorrow

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 26, 2015 9:17 am

Or, more importantly, quicklynch pie before she comes in the game and sees me quick lynching her and then the game gets derailed by pie trying to lynch me and me trolling

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 26, 2015 9:18 am

please man I don't want to die

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 26, 2015 9:18 am

please

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 26, 2015 1:50 pm

In post 2097, Ms Marangal wrote:If whe flips scum, can I get a cookie or something for calling 1/2 the team

no

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 26, 2015 1:50 pm

In post 2103, notscience wrote:Is it wrong I don't want to think its pie because I don't see her going "lol lets ly nc notty" again

Because I don't

I could just be really bad

Tbh I want to lynch nacho.

don't be horrible bud, vote pie

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 26, 2015 1:51 pm

In post 2102, Cephrir wrote:
In post 2092, BROseidon wrote:Troll nacho is best nacho.

Thank you for explaining.

pie was your secondary read, no?
vote pie
stop being so uptight

Nachomamma8 · Sat Dec 26, 2015 1:52 pm

In post 2104, notscience wrote:Wait pie claimed bg and that was a c.c. to marquis nvm

marquis counterclaimed pie

Nachomamma8 · Tue Dec 29, 2015 2:30 am

In post 2131, Natirasha wrote:Um, Nacho?

Yes?

Nachomamma8 · Tue Dec 29, 2015 2:37 am

In post 2133, AngryPidgeon wrote:Nacho, is it just me or does your claim look like bullshit?

I'm glad to see your reads are not improving

Nachomamma8 · Tue Dec 29, 2015 2:38 am

Vote: notscience

I don't think a mass claim will be necessary, but don't really care if we do one or not.

Nachomamma8 · Tue Dec 29, 2015 2:40 am

My preferred mass claim time would probably be tomorrow, though. Something stopped the kill last night if that something isn't scum no killing, and giving it another shot to stop the kill could net us an extra mislynch while massclaiming removes that possibility.

Nachomamma8 · Tue Dec 29, 2015 2:40 am

also I can't wait to lynch not science

Nachomamma8 · Tue Dec 29, 2015 5:04 am

In post 2142, Ms Marangal wrote:I think I would vote nacho over notsci

not surprised

Vote: notscience

Nachomamma8 · Tue Dec 29, 2015 5:05 am

In post 2147, Cephrir wrote:At least show me some fire notscience, you sound like you're not even trying anymore

(he isn't)
(not science isn't surviving three lynches)

Nachomamma8 · Tue Dec 29, 2015 5:20 am

In post 2139, Nachomamma8 wrote:My preferred mass claim time would probably be tomorrow, though. Something stopped the kill last night if that something isn't scum no killing, and giving it another shot to stop the kill could net us an extra mislynch while massclaiming removes that possibility.

This is the downside to mass claiming.

Nachomamma8 · Tue Dec 29, 2015 5:22 am

In post 2150, Cephrir wrote:if he were town, would he be trying? he does seem pretty pre-lynched today, i know that would turn me off too regardless

I'd expect him to try harder, yeah.
Not science feels pretty prelynched but he is also pretty confident in his ability to obvtown/people usually acknowledge that he's very town when he channels that so it wouldn't be too much effort for notsci to push a wagon off him. As scum, he doesn't really know where to start digging himself out of a hole and thus I expect more apathy in this situation from scum than town.

Nachomamma8 · Tue Dec 29, 2015 5:24 am

In post 2152, Empire wrote:Utterly speechless that you guys actually quicklynched pie while I was away.

Quicklynching is like getting blackout drunk. Seems like a terrible idea and is a terrible idea, but seems like a terrible idea in an entertaining sort of way and then you take the plunge and it's fun while it's happening and then the next day you wake up feeling terrible and you're asking yourself why the hell you did that although you know why you did and most likely will end up doing the same thing again.

Nachomamma8 · Tue Dec 29, 2015 5:33 am

In post 2159, Cephrir wrote:notty was doing the "i'm super town with nothing to back that up" thing this game wasn't he

i hate that thing but i feel like i've seen him do it as town too. actually have i even seen him not be town outside of FEA? i dont think i have.

He does it as town too, sure.

Nachomamma8 · Tue Dec 29, 2015 11:12 am

In post 319, borkjerfkin wrote:not sure I expect 310 from scum ns

we'll see

In post 2163, notscience wrote:I was thinking similarly to what pie said about tammy dying.

We also have nacho supposedly with no result when targeting me n1, and we have a kill prevented last night.

Lets be realistic here.

1) we have two flipped bps, a claimed tracker, two in no child lovers, and a miller claim.

2) Based purely off what nacho claimed, theres also a th

3) do you think theres another protective? I dont. That means purely based off what we've seen that were supposed to think a rb stopped the kill

4) which r oleblocker decides they are going to stop someone who claimed pr d1 and then magically shit to trying to stop scum later in the game

5) hint, its nacho, considering pie was screaming for his death yesterday, this can provide some validity to what nacho had said earlier whilst being suboptimal

6) I repeat, I have no reason to keep killing people townreading me. Nacho is saying I won't survive three lynches. Thats because, if I was scum, I made the choice to kill only people with professed townreads on me. If I had the team that had flipped so far that was getting kinda lazered in on, why the fuck would I do that, it makes it so I have no shot in hell of an endgame

7) baaaaaaaaaa

Notty, I love you. I love you, you are a friend, you are a fine lad.

But I have no idea what you're saying here. At all.
And I don't know if it makes you scum or town but here is my best attempt to parse your post!

Nachomamma8 · Tue Dec 29, 2015 12:04 pm

I don't remember targeting you N1. I'm pretty confident I targeted GiF N1. Why do you think I targeted you?

1) There's Syr's role, a tracker, two bodyguards, lover innocent children, and a Miller. This is against rolecop/role blocker/goon.

2) "We are supposed to believe there is a roleblocker" - this makes me scum? I'm a claimed tracker but suddenly I'm gonna go "just kidding, I'm actually a roleblocker and I blocked notscience?"??

3) Pie said that I was scum. Pie also said that you were scum. Trying to lynch me via pie calling me scum is pretty dirty when she was doing the same exact thing to you.

4) Bork mentioned you twice. Marquis was a bodyguard and wasn't necessarily the night kill. There wasn't a kill last night. ???????????

Nachomamma8 · Wed Dec 30, 2015 12:49 pm

I have a feeling you're wrong

Nachomamma8 · Wed Dec 30, 2015 12:50 pm

And when my feeling turns out to be a prophecy it would warm y ducky little heart if you murdered notscience!

Nachomamma8 · Wed Dec 30, 2015 1:08 pm

In post 2202, Natirasha wrote:If it's a roleblocker, we have a free lynch literally waiting for us.

If it's a BP/doctor, that means we have 3/4 confirmed town with 8 players left. That's a pretty sick position to be in.

If it's a jailor, well, we can play the odds with the knowledge we have.

If scum are no-killing then, lol.

All waiting does is give scum a chance to figure out what happened and silence their knowledge. You should know this.

3/4 confirmed town in 8 is pretty nice, but 3/4 confirmed town in 6 is way better

Nachomamma8 · Thu Dec 31, 2015 2:50 am

In post 2225, Natirasha wrote:Consider my vote spiritually on Nacho atm.

You too, Brutus?

Nachomamma8 · Thu Dec 31, 2015 2:54 am

In post 2221, BROseidon wrote:
In post 2188, AngryPidgeon wrote:Can anyone explain why Natirasha is town?

VOTE: nachoe

I'm starting to get Tales of You vibes out of ns/nacho at this point.

Could you explain to me why you think that any of my pushes have been on players who were so much as vaguely obvtown?

You can argue that I pushed pie when I should have read pie as town. I got paranoid of pie. I expressed paranoia over her in the course of a day and pushed her aggressively so that her reaction would be loud and obvious enough to put my paranoia to rest. She was lynched within 12 hours. Do you really think that I wouldn't have had a moment of paranoia that lasted however long my posting spree yesterday was?

Nachomamma8 · Thu Dec 31, 2015 2:55 am

Meanwhile, that wall against me was absolute garbage: you didn't need me to point out why it was bad and why you could buy it as genuine for a single second is basically beyond me.

Nachomamma8 · Thu Dec 31, 2015 9:11 am

hey Mara
you're still incorrectly scumreading me and it makes me sad

Nachomamma8 · Thu Dec 31, 2015 9:12 am

and although your misread is less disheartening than others (NATIRASHA), it's still

Nachomamma8 · Thu Dec 31, 2015 9:12 am

oh and not science also accused me of discrediting AP: talking shit is not a scumtell.

Nachomamma8 · Thu Dec 31, 2015 11:16 am

Did I think a quicklynch would be hilarious? Yes.
Did I think it would be a good idea? No.

Nachomamma8 · Thu Dec 31, 2015 11:18 am

Did I really think it would happen? Not really. Maybe I had secret desires and hopes towards that effect, but it's not like you open a day going "hey guys let's quicklynch today so pie doesn't get the chance to yell at me" and expect a wagon with lynch momentum to take you seriously

Nachomamma8 · Thu Dec 31, 2015 11:19 am

In post 2241, Natirasha wrote:Look I just shoot out my bullets, you can't blame me for that.

The first cut is the deepest.

Nachomamma8 · Thu Dec 31, 2015 1:56 pm

Nachomamma8 · Thu Dec 31, 2015 1:57 pm

AP not again

Nachomamma8 · Thu Dec 31, 2015 1:59 pm

AP please just vote me or something

Nachomamma8 · Thu Dec 31, 2015 1:59 pm

At least that scumread would be understandable

Are you scumreading not science?

Nachomamma8 · Thu Dec 31, 2015 2:02 pm

notty notty notty can't you see
sometimes your cowardice just hypnotize me
I see right through your scummy ways
guess that's why I'm town and you're so scum

Nachomamma8 · Thu Dec 31, 2015 2:04 pm

I thought I see right through your scummy ways was pure gold

Nachomamma8 · Thu Dec 31, 2015 2:39 pm

In post 2256, AngryPidgeon wrote:
In post 2251, Nachomamma8 wrote:AP please just vote me or something

Nevar. I'm a strong independent pidgeon. I guess I'd vote Notty. But I don't wanna.

if you would vote notty maybe notty is town

Nachomamma8 · Thu Dec 31, 2015 2:39 pm

Oh shit I'm discrediting again, guess I'm scum guys

Nachomamma8 · Thu Dec 31, 2015 2:42 pm

just kidding bud I love you

Nachomamma8 · Fri Jan 01, 2016 8:18 am

AP is gua?

Nachomamma8 · Fri Jan 01, 2016 8:19 am

Guys we have 9 hours can we lynch notscience?

Nachomamma8 · Fri Jan 01, 2016 11:27 am

ferry you might also want to change the title to 1/1

Nachomamma8 · Fri Jan 01, 2016 1:15 pm

no broseidon
we are not the worst

Nachomamma8 · Fri Jan 01, 2016 3:13 pm

empire I'm gonna shoot you

Nachomamma8 · Fri Jan 01, 2016 3:13 pm

in a nice way

Nachomamma8 · Fri Jan 01, 2016 4:49 pm

please just self-hammer

Nachomamma8 · Fri Jan 01, 2016 4:50 pm

or respond to my case

either/or

Nachomamma8 · Fri Jan 01, 2016 4:52 pm

both would be cool too although it doesn't seem like those things would go together

Nachomamma8 · Fri Jan 01, 2016 4:52 pm

empire empire empire

Nachomamma8 · Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:09 am

That is a dumb thought.

Nachomamma8 · Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:10 am

Natirasha is currently my only stable townread which is utter garbage.

Nachomamma8 · Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:11 am

And Empire needs to actually do something this game so I can feel decently about him because if he goes "gosh I just can't play" one more time I probably will push there and never look back.

Nachomamma8 · Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:26 am

the reason that's true that no one wants to hear is that this isn't my scumgame because this would be the best scumgame i've ever played in my entire life period.

the more reasonable answer is that my play this game doesn't make sense if I'm setting myself up as the one who goes deep; I've done ridiculous shit as scum before but it's always been when I've had faith in other scumbuddies to go deeper or I didn't expect to have a particularly long shelf life.