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Evenstar do you think I am dumb enough as scum to throw away 2 lives by going against townsevera and distancing from my scumbuddy?
I love to hardbus as scum, assuming pops and I are scum together why not just sit back and take the towncred I get from a pops scumflip.
This is a suicidal play if we are both scum, which I assure you can not be the case cause Im not mafia.
Regardless of Pops alignment I really dont see how breaking the mold makes me scum, in fact the seperation from sheeping severa should in theory make me town, regardless of how dumb you think I am.-
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Sigh.In post 1695, Evenstar wrote:
Yes.In post 1689, Salamence20 wrote:Evenstar do you think I am dumb enough as scum to throw away 2 lives by going against townsevera and distancing from my scumbuddy?
Then nothing I say will change your mind on anything.
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It is interesting alch didnt vote for pops, ngl.In post 1743, Farkran wrote:
So, you were not willing to jump onto your scumread not because you are unsure of either, but because you're so much certain that they're scum together that you also know who got the stronger role.In post 1729, Alchemist21 wrote:
Severa has it right, I want to lynch the scum I think has the stronger role.
The part I bolded in your post is based on a flawed assumption that because we lynch one of them today and they flip scum means we’ll lynch the other D2. D2 wagons usually wildly vary from what one would expect at the end of D2 because after another 2 weeks new stuff happens and peoples’ reads change. I don’t have a lot of faith in Town’s ability to 1-2 combo scum.
I am... not sure from which alignment does this come from, but i think i do not sort you before pops. If you were scum and pops was town, you had a very good progression on her and the perfect opportunity to cast your vote on her without looking scummy, so i can't think of you as scum unless pops is also scum.
Telling some huge bs might work to get away with your coasting me vs pops since you couldn't randomly jump on me.
Why do the latter two questions matter? Especially the last one?Farkran wrote:Speaking of which,
@pops what's the flavor name or your night ability? What's the name of your magia? What's your disc distribution? Why did you pick a charge disc?-
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Id have to look back and I know you wont butIn post 1745, Severa wrote:I will say
It's striking that there was no counterwagon to Kerset
But there has been a ton of resistance to Pops
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This hood is so fucked up.In post 1749, Severa wrote:In post 1732, popsofctown wrote:I assume this is for my waifus and I appreciate it
I'm Sayaka Miki, my night action is a bodyguard. At 100 mana my superdisc protects both my target and myself instead of being a bodyguard. I also have a memoria that says my actions can't be disrupted by roleblock, only if the person I'm targeting has an effect on themselves like ascetic.
We already have a bodyguard claim in my hood ftr-
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Im doing it, fuck yall:
So in the hood we have:
TL, a double neighborizer with an unknown magia at this point, and we have no idea how the hood was formed, its length, or anything special.
Bitmap, an asetic something
Severa, a potential investigative or Killing role
If you ask me, either TL’s hood is a day action and his ability memoria makes him a bg to either neighbor. OR
Bitmap is an asetic BG, but then would neighborizing work against an asetic?
Severa is not a BG, because he would be calling Pops out by now-
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What do you think of Evenstars reaction.
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I wish I knew this games flavorIn post 1788, Evenstar wrote:
TL is literally claiming Homura Akemi. As in the exact role from Magical Girls Mafia. Idek wtf tbqh.In post 1762, Salamence20 wrote:Im doing it, fuck yall:
So in the hood we have:
TL, a double neighborizer with an unknown magia at this point, and we have no idea how the hood was formed, its length, or anything special.
Bitmap, an asetic something
Severa, a potential investigative or Killing role
If you ask me, either TL’s hood is a day action and his ability memoria makes him a bg to either neighbor. OR
Bitmap is an asetic BG, but then would neighborizing work against an asetic?
Severa is not a BG, because he would be calling Pops out by now-
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Youre town.In post 1803, Severa wrote:doesn't help my read on you that your read on me is all over the effing place
Bitmap isnt scum.
Theres a decent chance TL is.
Pretty sure I havent scumread you this entire game and Im not sure Id be able to scumread you even if you WERE scum.
Coming back to deal with kerset later-
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PART 1:
I don't think pops flip affects my alignment.Kerset wrote:Salame has scummy appearance so pops flip would solve that.
If shes scum then I look bad, if shes town everyone expects me to speedwagon severa, which Im not.
I'd deal with the hood aftermath D2 and still focus on Farkran. I dont expect to be alive past D2 at the most.
Why even ask? That hood is madness.In post 1811, Kerset wrote:
I wonder why did bitmap post this here. They have neighborhood so it makes more sense to ask there. Also they were suggesting a lot so far that they exchange their real reads over there. If bitmap is worried about Severa being NK during night 1, then revealing readlist is only raising this chance.In post 1422, Bitmap wrote:I'm also requesting Severa to list their reads before day ends because Severa has high chance of probably baiting the night kill.
This request is so odd.
SighIn post 1813, Kerset wrote:I disagree with farkran reads but they are not scum indicative.
Thats what I'm saying. He cracked. He was legit pressured and it was scummy.In post 1813, Kerset wrote:Maybe i am just dumber that Eva but i don't see him to 'project his townplay'. Calling his push on gamma suspicious is typical read for biased person. The real thing is that Farkran panicked, when he was pushed. Looking at his meta this one is decent SI.
I too love gamblers fallacyIn post 1813, Kerset wrote: Fark and Alchemist are never scum together. Fark is kind of person that would be death tunneling his inactive+voted partner.
Theres no need for scumFark to push scumAlchemist because theres no pressure on Alchemist.
BUt EveNStaR sAYs ThATs FaLSeEvenstar wrote:Alchemist is uselless. Above being sheep he is not even trying to defend Farkran. If he only cares about killing wagonned SR but wagon on his town read is not relevant then his stance is pure survivalist.-
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I'm a bad guy..........DUHIn post 1815, Kerset wrote:Salmence has like 0 town concern. He is not afraid about mislynch.*Catchy instrumental plays*
Please explain how I'm "Not Afraid about mislynch." Its fucking Day 1, unless we have 3 night kills town will recover if we miss and if we hit scum then we party.
Wheres this flip? Otherwise this is assumption. I'm not lynching people for association, I'm lynching for scum.He doesn't look at potential information received from flip.
Thats townplay. Theres no need for me to be doing this as scum. As I said earlier people should be townreading me for seperating from sheeping severa regardless of how pops flips.I don't see him to be kind of player that hides most of this thoughts.
This is False. I was legit sheeping until I found something worth my while. Remember that I wanted to wagon TL and Alch/Chem and no one was willing to follow cause "ThIS Is ToWN MeTA"I was sure that he was sheeping earlier in order to obtain information about people reactions but now he seems to be disengaged from this.
Fuck Meta unless I'm in the game with the person.Even if we believe him that from now on Fark is the only thing that he cares about I would expect him to start reading his previous games. Both me and Eva gave quite direct warning that Farkran is often misread on day 1 so anyone with town concern would check those for sake of clarity.
I've said it before Ill say it again, that is how newer players get away with being scum, because they look scummy town and attribute it to being new rather than scum.
This price for blasphemy, is death, Salamence.VOTE: Salamence-
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He also had pops as town until she voted farkranIn post 1844, Venus and Mars wrote:
It looks like he’s trying to set you up as his buddy once he flips.In post 1841, Salamence20 wrote:I said yesterday I feel as if Farkran KNOWS im town.
Thats really the only way I can see him hard tr’ing like he has-
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In post 1507, Bitmap wrote:I just realized pops left out Farkran out of her reads list.In post 1508, popsofctown wrote:Farkran is scummy. He is doing a reliable job of mimicking his high level of analysis he has as town, but the analysis is seems low quality/wrong too often, in ways where it'd be okay if it happened once but over and over it seems like he's being forced to scumread town or townread scum or use the correct answer and work backwards.
Salamence pointed out Venus and Mars are sheeping less than Alchemist, but I would go way further and say nothing about V&M iso is particularly sheepy, V&M has one of the more independent isos to me. Accusing them of being sheepy for reaching the sameconclusionsof other players seems like something that would only occur to a Farkran that is frustrated by a correctly identified townblock or delighting in teasing a slot for making the same misread the rest of the game is.
Sorry he missed my late night readslist.
In post 1511, Farkran wrote:Holy shit pops is scum.In post 1518, Farkran wrote:
This does not make sense... v&m did not reach the same conclusions of other players, they're evidently being tunneled and reading others out of consensus bias. No way you would not notice that. Me and v&m is pretty clearly TvT from your pov.In post 1508, popsofctown wrote:Farkran is scummy. He is doing a reliable job of mimicking his high level of analysis he has as town, but the analysis is seems low quality/wrong too often, in ways where it'd be okay if it happened once but over and over it seems like he's being forced to scumread town or townread scum or use the correct answer and work backwards.
Salamence pointed out Venus and Mars are sheeping less than Alchemist, but I would go way further and say nothing about V&M iso is particularly sheepy, V&M has one of the more independent isos to me. Accusing them of being sheepy for reaching the sameconclusionsof other players seems like something that would only occur to a Farkran that is frustrated by a correctly identified townblock or delighting in teasing a slot for making the same misread the rest of the game is.
Sorry he missed my late night readslist.
Salamence, i think he's town but refuses to even try not taking something at face value, heabsolutelyneeds to be removed before lylo because scum are never going to kill him. Same about V&M.
Kerset is still town and disaligned from pops, who is probably pocketing him then? Does it make sense for alchemist not to realize that? @alchemist why are you aligning pops and kerset for specifically the reason why you should disalign them?
Bitmap... pops has been SRing him the whole game but does not want to commit into voting him. Bitmap has been consistently pointing out scumtells from pops (even when there weren't any) so i think they're disaligned and that makes bitmap town?
Suji is probably independently town
Chemist might be associated to pops, too little content to determine.
Gamma, same as chemist, but i would guess pops' slight SR of her might be either distancing or maintaining a window of opportunity to lynch her later if he's town.
TL... is pretty much the same as bitmap in this scenario? Would TL hard-townread pops if they were scum together? I think not, i wouldn't expect that from scum!TL.
Severa... is town if scum!pops.
That leaves me with Evenstar, who makes sense in bussing position against pops when she's wagoned... and possibly {gamma, chemist}.
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In post 1854, Farkran wrote:Yeah, salamence, i am scum and i omgus people for no reason.
You did. Remember the Venus vote too?
I wonder why i didn't omgus you too, since you have voted me before pops did.
Because you think/know Im town and havent wavered from that read despite saying things like “needs to be removed.”
I'll try again: open your eyes, or you will feel bad after this game.
Kerset open your eyes. Hopefully saying that gets him to vote you.
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This is still my position.In post 1655, Salamence20 wrote:I think Farkran is scum, Alchemist is scum with him, and then Chemist/Bitmap/TL/Kerset for wild cards.
Theres no way Alch/Chem is TT, I dont think The HOOD(tm) is all town.-
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If you read Farkran as town, who would you like to lynch right now besides me?In post 1870, Kerset wrote:Salamence i don't like your OMG responses. I am not saying that you can't disagree with everything but i would rather like you to have self-doubt reflections. If you approach allegation with assumption that you are virtuous, it won't be productive talk.
Im acting this way because every post Farkran made starting with a metadive of Bitmap has been really scummy to the point hes being obvious fmpov.
IF I AM WRONG AND FARKRAN IS TOWN, then I will probably give severa my vote tomorrow unless theres 2 kills without a vig claim, in which Im taking a serious look at *someone* or I start a TL wagon, idk.
While Im “tunneling,” Im game for TL (which wont happen) or Alch/Chem (which also wont happen).
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I think there is only one BG. Severa isnt “hardpushing” based on the claim, otherwise we would have a hammer by nowIn post 1883, Farkran wrote:
This interesting. Severa is hardpushing pops with a bg counterclaim. Do you believe severa is lying? Or the other bg is lying? Or that there can be two bgs?In post 1881, Salamence20 wrote: I believe pops is town, I think shes demotivated from severa.
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Was that game a mini?In post 1884, Venus and Mars wrote:In post 1883, Farkran wrote:
This interesting. Severa is hardpushing pops with a bg counterclaim. Do you believe severa is lying? Or the other bg is lying? Or that there can be two bgs?In post 1881, Salamence20 wrote: I believe pops is town, I think shes demotivated from severa.In post 1831, Venus and Mars wrote:Question: Is it really impossible to have more than one of the same kind of role here? In No Deadlines, there were sometimes 3 or 4 of the exact same role.
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No, then I would become a VT.In post 1932, Kerset wrote:Hey Salamence maybe you just want massclaim...
Its pretty obvious whats going on, pops can live tonight.
Hey Farkran, how are you reading bitmap at the moment?-
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Honestly wouldnt you want to get the people who tried to countwagon you?In post 1935, Severa wrote:Pops is dying and the two people hard defending him are the two people who have SvSish associatives
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I mean if you want me to keep talking about the hood I can if you want, I was just doing you a favor since you hinted I should shut up about the claimsIn post 1952, Severa wrote:Salamence: the actual bodyguard is town
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Why did you soft water waifu and how?
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Kinda dangerous to do so, dont you think?In post 1969, Bitmap wrote:Google
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