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FFERYBORK WAKE THE FUCK UP

I just got back from the dentist. catching up now.

~ street

as of about 1.5 hours ago, bork liked FL's first few posts. not sure when we'll sync.

My hackles are on autopilot and I hope to keep them that way.

was there something in particular I was supposed to be panicking about?

(teeth are annoyed atm and I'm feeling cranky)

Am I going insane or did Noraa back off her scumread once I agreed with Nacho I could see her-town here.

It feels like a cohort fight re: noraa reads right now :~(

where are the lines drawn?

she's completely ignored me since I (un)voted her earlier. We're not townreading her, though reading all the emo when I finally got up today did pull at my cold, cold heart a little. I'm willing to give her a calendar day to decompress and then see what she puts down in the way of stances at that point.

From memory...

Against Heavily:
Nachotammy

Against Lightly:
Cabdceph

For lightly:
Flavor
Fferybork

For Heavily:
Bell
Peta

im not against
-ceph

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Are you thinking the differences of opinion are alignment driven?

The only person I wouldn't take to a masonry right now is flavor (peta right on cusp), but even he's feeling pretty town on entry...

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i wish i could vote HP from here
-ceph

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Are you thinking the differences of opinion are alignment driven?

The only person I wouldn't take to a masonry right now is flavor (peta right on cusp), but even he's feeling pretty town on entry...

Do you know what this perspective slip thing is about?

I think it's the fact Noraa didn't even debate that this thread could be 2 or 4, she explicitly listed it as {X, Y, Z}

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flavor seems like flavor overall but i didn't like 2215 or 2258. im a few pages behind still though.

i have seen other games where half the town was crying and screaming begging for gamma to stop doing his stupid catchup and he absolutely refused, so im put off by him doing so now and i cant help but wonder if there is something to sb's point about the timing of gamma's return. their claim is uninteresting.

-ceph

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ceph r u helping me buss skitter yet or no?

i guess the fact i have nothing on her will become concerning if it continues beyond a certain point

so basically i think we should bus her day 3

-ceph

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I don't like that this is the one post SS feels inclined to make in the past X pages

-b

ceph when did u join our scum team?

im always scum with you woofbringer

im planning to ignore the ate wall and i'm moderately upset imperium have outed themselves over something that is so tremendously not worth it.

-ceph

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oh, right, i was gonna agree with that first post too and completely forgot i had quoted it

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i do get a little jealous when nachotammy don't give me attention, but i should probably take it as a sign of respect
-ceph

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@Titus why are you scumreading LLD?

Hey Ceph u think LLD is town right?

i think that was my general impression but i would like her to come back
-ceph

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i do get a little jealous when nachotammy don't give me attention, but i should probably take it as a sign of respect
-ceph

sorry! I don’t think you’ve posted on the pages I’ve skimmed some of, but I <3 you

Yes, our unintentional ignoring of you is mostly due to avoiding the horror of a thread you're currently in and not seeing you when you do post, but I was most disappointed in not getting you in this thread with me if that makes you feel better!

it does.

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Wine, I like these guys as town. Particularly 1577. The read on peta is just too bad to actually come from scum.

hate to rain on this parade but im pretty sure you're misreading 1577.
-ceph

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cabd wasn't saying peta was scum in that post, he was saying "look at this game that just finished where peta was scum"
-ceph

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flavor seems like flavor overall but i didn't like 2215 or 2258. im a few pages behind still though.

i have seen other games where half the town was crying and screaming begging for gamma to stop doing his stupid catchup and he absolutely refused, so im put off by him doing so now and i cant help but wonder if there is something to sb's point about the timing of gamma's return. their claim is uninteresting.

-ceph

Can I ask why the hell my timing was so criticized? Like, what do you want me to fucking do when the thread climate is that of a fucking runaway train? Y’all were barreling towards me with me completely unaware of the actual peril I was in, so if I DON’T pop in you guys just fucking mistreat me and probably continue at a ridiculously fast pace. We have regular deadlines for fuck sake this isn’t a blitz game!!! As for the catch up stuff, maybe it’s the fact that this is the third straight game I’ve played with cabd and co. that has become a spam fest, and I’m tired of trying to fucking read these long ass games. I busted my ASS to read Smoke Filled Antechamber and I recall catching shit for not finishing when I actually did. And when I tried to attack the source in Xenoblade 2 I was basically told to go to hell. And now I’m gettin shitpushed with <20 posts and y’all are angling to end D1 in <72 hours? Let’s also fucking note Cabd doesn’t seem to be doing his shit where he monitors the thread length. Idk there’s something fucked up here and I’m tired of being a cog in the machine.

yo like chill.

what i mean is that your return coincided with FL replacing in so i was wondering if he might have given you a prod in scumland.
-ceph

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Bruh, gamma, you just called me scum for being concerned about you dropping your usual schtick and in the same breath called cabd scum for dropping a schtick

You seem to think I should magically know all this context about your life and your angst or whatever. Pls take a chill pill and try again later.
-ceph

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Negative Covid test result. Thank Arceus. Gonna go cry of stress relief for a while.

Please don't vote to purple room me. TIA

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You may have to caucus yet.

For people townreading me, and townreading Deacon:

Give it to deacon

For people townreading me, and scumreading Deacon:

Give it to deacon and ffery will die and fuck up out of stage freight when paced in a cage with confirmed town tammycho.

For people scumreading me, and townreading Deacon:

Give it to Deacon, they can work with tammycho to re-callibrate and fix their read to catch me~

For people scumreading me, and scumreading Deacon:

How does it feel to literally suck at life?

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Let's move on from this phase because right now I think we have enough content and Bork's(?) 2346 resonates with me deeply. I think Shelly is scum and I don't wanna sit around and wait for the game to veer off into another direction because people get bored and want to impulsively post. Bell stuck his neck out about her (even if it was meta) and it feels conclusive enough to call it a good lim. I said earlier I was willing to case her but I don't know if that's necessary, I don't get a thrill out of seeing myself 4 times on the same page, if anything it usually annoys me. I..don't know what to do about the other thread and I'm way way less confident (but again, more intrigued) about their position but I think there's more than enough to probably reach a decent consensus. This is getting unhealthy and I remember trying to look into that thread and my vision getting blurry. I don't know where most people are at...but you know what helps? Voting. I believe that this (as in, what I'm doing right now) is just the process of explaining what matters most. Votes. Who you vote at the end of the day is almost always what I read someone on, and everything else is provided context for your vote. I think too much herosolving is going on right now as well, but I won't get into it. My pool is not me saying these are the 3 scum, it's me saying 'these are the 3 I am looking at RIGHT NOW' and nothing else. I could be wrong and I think too many people are trying to solve the game far too early, which leads to people being indecisive or questioning themselves. Vote one person off and then use the night phase to think about why/if you were wrong.

I see and understand you, man. I think you're fine to revert to a wallier style. Your thread needs to figure out who they're sending, and then the elim votes can fly on both timelines.

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Flavor, outside perspective- I think you looked like an absolute crazy person in your exchange with deacon and them getting frustrated by it is nai.
-ceph

Also,
VOTE: sinkhole
VOTE: Fire

We should probably sync on who should actually die today.

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Flavor, outside perspective- I think you looked like an absolute crazy person in your exchange with deacon and them getting frustrated by it is nai.
-ceph

Also,
VOTE: sinkhole
VOTE: Fire

We should probably sync on who should actually die today.

what a conveniently placed unvote on me

You simulposted me. Shrug.

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Ceph, how much have you discussed your reads with Cabd?

3/10

Not much yet. Ive more been using him as a place to post snark that would be unhelpful to the game. I'm a bad hydra partner and tend to go off and do whatever, which I prepared him for before he agreed to do this.

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shit am i still being cranky and sarcastic i was trying so hard not to be
-ceph

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I'm getting some ???! vibes from the hp/fl interactions, something feels off there imo

it's because hp is scum
-ceph

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the amount of omgus in this game is genuinely insane and they can't all be scum
-ceph

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im upset that play quality has degraded here to the point this is acceptable

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i refuse to get tilted.

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you could probably do decently well implying unsavory things about my mother

no, i didnt mean the mechanic

seconding cabd's request we not be purple roomed
-ceph

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I'm making this post outside of the game and I want to speak to you at a personal level.

Noraa, please stop being so negative. I think you're very sweet and I enjoy having you in my games. I apologize if you feel attacked but you're weaponizing your feelings right now and nobody knows how to deal with it. I want you to understand that this is a game and character cannot be judged entirely by game-related actions. That being said, I think right now you are feeling personally attacked and that your only chance of fighting back is by making others feel the way you do by saying they're "Bad" or "Can't read you". If you want to be respected or to be taken seriously, I need you to let go of those feelings and really rethink the way you're approaching this game. I also just want to say, if you are being underhanded by the means of acting this way exclusively beacuse of the game, I will be very saddened by it, as it has lead me to reconsider my thoughts on you purely through empathy; I townread you.

I am humbled by what you said of me but know that I don't treat myself as a person who is always right, or has god-tier reads. Each game is individual, and what I want most out of this game is to have fun and enjoy the puzzle aspect. Right or Wrong does not dictate how much fun I am having, nor how much I enjoy someone either. I don't look at you like 'well, Noraa is always wrong so I don't care' I look at you as the way I described you previously, and that's what matters most to me.

May I request a beam over?

Got you fam

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I am slammed, lady ffery, with IRL shit but like.... reads date?

Just slow and drawn out?

Maybe Ceph and I will actually bother talking about our reads instead of essentially playing like two separate players due to COVID scares and rampant insomnia?

Find out on the next episode of Dragon ball Z.

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@Other thread Bell is a precious darling and if you touch a hair on his head you will get a fferyesque yelling-at. Don't even think about it!

Would literally vote tammycho over him in 3P and assume the IC thing was a mod error.

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"Your scumreads are bad and you should feel bad" is a fun game but then we get Mr. gab over here running a Illicit instead of a Xeno.

We need to consensus.

Right now the threads feel like they're in a state of backwards needs to decide an elim, while forwards has pretty much chosen their elim and turnstiles. While we COULD elim whoever they send us, I'd rather we have an answer for what to do if we end up getting town from them instead, as it seems they may go that route with Spiffeh.

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Sorry woofboy you're like a good fifteen minutes late to the party and nobody bothered to save you any~

pedit- yah

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There is 100% scum in the people town reading your slot. Do you know all the people who are doing so?

In this timeline, the other timeline, or both?

I believe there are some yet to state an opinion but the ones NOT townreading me are:

Skitter
Noraa
Hench
Brian? He wasn't at one point.
Unwnd I don't feel expressed a read on me other than paranoid of me.

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Sorry woofboy you're like a good fifteen minutes late to the party and nobody bothered to save you any~

pedit- yah

I will get revenge by night kill u first.

BRB Hiding in a different room so you can't kill me then vent.

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Ugh, Skitter’s so obviously scum, I wish I could explain why better.

Try your best?

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Well some of the are writing in the same orange as the background of maftigers

Mafsepia is the best alt skin fite me.

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Holy shit even if that case is wrong, I am over here fucking smug as shit that I got the meta-call right on Owl and you didn't, Unwnd.

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@Wine, Read skitters ISO to post 250. You'll see Skitter scum. Lots of baseless shade.

Can someone send me over?

It's okay titus, I am keeping up with both threads. Just post in any color that isn't black to grab specific attention that you want it addressed on our end.

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Holy shit even if that case is wrong, I am over here fucking smug as shit that I got the meta-call right on Owl and you didn't, Unwnd.

superbowl's pessisism in that regard is offputting but after sleeping I've come to terms with him probably being town

I started to lean town on him a bit earlier, you get

NO POINTS!

Post #714 (isolation #76) » Mon Dec 14, 2020 1:12 pm

#899 (ISO) » Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:35 am

Read 'em and fucking weep, my points.

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Dandelion and I are at near-mason level cooperation here fwiw.

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midwaybear's activity level is troubling.

You need to post a new reads list with me at the top to help my ego. TIA.

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You’re in my town block.

What does that have to do with me being here? Do you want me to help you solve?

Yeah, I’m gonna sheep you on Gamma, I’m just waiting to hammer without a claim them.

Sucks for you that they already claimed!

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One more thing to consider about Gamma - say I'm wrong and gamma flips green - we lose basically nothing because Gamma has gone back to doing fuck all and we can feel better about FL. If I'm right about this, and we let Gamma stick around with FL, we are fucked

You don't attribute anything to his bg claim?

I feel like that's a claim that self-fulfills quickly, or gets elimed for not doing so.

No? We're not wasting a turnstyle on gamma so scum has no incentive to shoot if he's green

his claim is that he's a bg in this timestream iirc.

Would definitely like this clarified.

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Ffery, it might be Darmok time about this, actually.

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Ffery, it might be Darmok time about this, actually.

Temba, his arms wide.

Freezer, his use in life squared.
Bell, his life alight.

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Update- Cabd and ffery have gone too deep for even I.

This isn't even my final form.

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Ffery, it might be Darmok time about this, actually.

Temba, his arms wide.

Freezer, his use in life squared.
Bell, his life alight.

ffery and nacho in the back seat
rails not derailed?

One more thing to consider about Gamma - say I'm wrong and gamma flips green - we lose basically nothing because Gamma has gone back to doing fuck all and we can feel better about FL. If I'm right about this, and we let Gamma stick around with FL, we are fucked

You don't attribute anything to his bg claim?

I feel like that's a claim that self-fulfills quickly, or gets elimed for not doing so.

No? We're not wasting a turnstyle on gamma so scum has no incentive to shoot if he's green

his claim is that he's a bg in this timestream iirc.

Would definitely like this clarified.

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Like, I don’t know how to case her here, I’ve tried, people don’t like it.

Make a better case? I'd love to see one

^



Pretend this is the night two PT in xenoblade and effort, man. The receptiveness to your words is there, now fill the words.

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Highlight the case so far, and I can try to get a cereal decoder ring out.

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Because I know Skitter

So, meta?

Can you provide the last ten games or so you two player together? Just names/links, no need to go in depth, I can judge for myself without either of you giving me slants.

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@fferybork are we still on for night 2?

tlaloc willing and the crick don't rise.

+1

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You also posted I was being repetitive

, but the wall of quotes I posted have vastly different reasons.

You might be tuning them out in your brain so it looks repetitive, but it is not.

Where did I ever say that?

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if both of you could stop f5ing and making 8000 posts that would be great
-ceph

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@Tammycho you good with this thread hammering fferybork for purple room fireside chat now that you're locked in from that end? Plox help me campaign. TIA

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Solomente uno mas?

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Flavor send deacon to the purple room you soggy bag of cole slaw

He already voted. Need one more.

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Not to the ones hard town reading me I’m not, I’m talking about your average randy joe.

Which bucket is which, boonleafril?

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Apparently being added to your townblock has little to do with your readslists anyway, so~

@Darmok: Agamemnon to the corner pocket.

You have no idea how skin-crawly it is to see yet another cross-pollination of morphisms with that damn tilde showing up!

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@cabd see if gamma will promise to target fairylit

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FB plox hammer the deacons into the tammycho cagematch tanks

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OH MY GOD I GET TO BREAK OUT THE CHECKLIST MEME FINALLY YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

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I wouldn’t suggest I die rn when I could literally just die protecting imperium (assuming y’all actually come to your senses and send them to this side)

Your post advocates a(n)

(X) mechanical ( ) dayplay (X) nightplay ( ) effective

approach to protecting Tammycho. Your idea will not work. Here is why it won't work. (One or more of the following may apply to your particular idea, and it may have other flaws which vary depending on how crazy the setup is.

(X) This requires consensus of a LOT of players who will disagree with you
(X) Roleblockers are a thing
(X) If you're scum, this is a best case scenario for your team
(X) Redirectors are a thing
( ) This prevents them from doing what they want to on the other side
( ) They themselves don't want this
(X) This will ruin the "oops all town" plan
(X) The wine yaya conhort will not put up with it
(X) Likely requires too much cooperation from the mafia team to actually move this along
(X) Requires near-immediate total cooperation from everybody at once
(X) Your plan assumed there isn't ways of protecting them over there

Specifically, your plan fails to account for

( ) Asshats
(X) Town reluctance to accept blowing up existing plans
(X) Extreme swing if you're wrong
( ) Known setup spec and claimed roles make this unlikely

and the following philosophical objections may also apply:

( ) Ideas similar to yours are easy to come up with, yet none have ever
been shown practical
( ) Any scheme based on opt-out is unacceptable
(X) Why should we have to trust you and your role?
(X) Feel-good measures do nothing to solve the problem

Furthermore, this is what I think about you:

( ) Sorry dude, but I don't think it would work.
(X) This is a bad idea, and you're very possibly scum for suggesting it.
( ) Nice try, assh0le! I'm going to find out where you live and burn your
house down!

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Dandelion tht post was cringe

That's the whole point!

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fresh cherry,

I am interested in this product and or service.

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I'm going to try to take the rest of the night off from reading this. This thread is absolutely nothing but noise.
-ceph

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And if you don't like that, I don't care.

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Lady Deacon I am currently driving to the data center but this is important so you get the voice to text typos. I see a significant problem with the claim on the table do you see it as well?

Please use trek talk if you do see it I don't want to give it away

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Well one of them that I can't talk about is that watcher and innocent child being able to be in the same timeline on day one is not something I think makes it past the reviewers of this game.

The other one is something I'm not going to reveal now but makes it even weirder and I'm certainly hoping that Deacon sees it too

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Not going to lie flavor I'm really tempted to be the reverse you this game and just wall hammer but the other thread needs to get it shit together and we need to get the turnstile second recipient before that can happen I think

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Deacon I'm really hoping you didn't decide to take a evening nap If so your sleep has like the worst timing in the world

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Flavor I want you to go back and just run my early ISO and you may see what I'm getting at I'm pretty sure you're the only other person that isn't Deacon that might understand

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I don't think the crumbs in the ether that exist right now are compatible with the claim at all

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Considered this me not directly but indirectly counterclaiming for a friend a good friend

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That would literally be hammer owl I'm not going to hammer when the other thread literally just now got around to getting off their ass and getting the first turnstile done

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Titus you are missing part of the puzzle but I really can't convey it to you even if I do think you're probably town unfortunately you lack the kind of lingo that I could use safely

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I'm just here waiting for not science to show up and be all righteous fury kung fu man

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I could vote LLD.

I do want us to come to some kind of consensus on skitter sometime soon too.

Ugh

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@Cabd I’ll get the ruler ready if we need to have a transcendent bond n2.

Or are you worried he’s scum?

D: All of the above including the mystery goat behind door number C

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I’ve actually read every scumgame you’ve played because I truly value meta, and I can confirm this is scum you.

I snortled.

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Spoiler:

I think LLD is scum and I can't even reach the barbarians because they won't stop fighting. Skitter is in a dangerous position and I don't know where the bus starts and where town being right ends. In that sense, I haven't been able to track why Skitter is being voted. It just literally happened, like a murmur that turned into a bunch of loud voices convinced that Skitter was scum. The progression is concerning, and if there is a bus in play it is far more subtle and not even being tracked. The few who are town and voting Skitter are likely just sheeping someone they believe is town, but again I refer back to the whole contingency plan. There is none.

IWhy do you think LLD is scum?

I'll try to illustrate this because a lot of your side doesn't like to read walls. Please tell me if this is confusing.

Progression for town players usually follows a recognizable pattern to me. I can usually understand why they went from Here (Inquiry of alignment) ➜ Here (Reasoning of vote) ➜ Here (Applying pressure to individual) ➜ Vote. LLD so far does not follow this pattern.

Her thought process on Superbowl went like this:
Here (Inquiry of alignment) ➜ Here (YOU ARE SCUM YOU ARE BEING COACHED I SEE THROUGH YOU YOU ARE SCUM UGHHHH PROCEED TO THROW FUCKING EVERYTHING AT SUPERBOWL PERFORMATIVE NONSENSE) ➜ Vote. She outright skipped a few steps and went from 0 to 100 on one person, and if her intent was to merely pressure Superbowl, then something must've come out of it right? Not really. LLD's one big moment was her fight with Superbowl and then the rest is just (performative nonsense). Look at her posts and tell me if you can gauge where her next thought has lead since that fight and if you can I'll take back everything I've said.

Requesting beam and maybe some responses

mobile but intend to do the homework later

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Stuck in a cage on my cell phone. Hate love my job sometimes. Unwnd- did I just cross-pollinate tammycho into your lexicon?

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Stuck in a cage on my cell phone. Hate love my job sometimes. Unwnd- did I just cross-pollinate tammycho into your lexicon?

Has a good ring to it. Thoughts on Hench being frozen?

Brain no work gud. ELI5

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Thog no understand concept of money.

Thog already use checklist.

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Dobby has been given a sock and so I drive home now

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Wasn't not science literally at e minus 1 for a few minutes at the very least?

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i could see ways it could be done but i know fuckall about setup spec so i'll defer to you there. i'm absolutely bringing this back on your head if it's wrong though. no "i did an oopsie" excuses.

I mean yeah that's fine. You should know that my voice to text typo'd there, it should read "Can" not "Can't"

There's an additional layer to this onion. I think only cobra kai, myself, and deacon see it so far. Maybe the big leafy boy.

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@Wine, How confident are you in your soft CC? I would hate to see you and skitter be back to back miseliminations.

Like, it's not 100% rock solid but it's pretty strong? Call it an eight or so on the ten-chart.

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@Dandelion,

Visit Darmok tonight? I'm totally frazzled but I think I gotta.

Sadly. Not tonight. Tomorrow.

Worry about your damn house and home. I'm on kiddo duty while the keebler elf wife cranks out Christmas candy batches.

I'm going on 24 hours billed in the last 36. I don't think I have the spoons to be deep enough to play keep away on my notes.

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How the fuck do I even read this shit from flavor? Greetings from the nursery rocking chair.

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Okay trying to get kiddo to crib now. I need a keyboard and an adult and possibly a stuffed animal to make sense of this.


Was also looking at midwaybear opinion. Specifically from lld.

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Crib attempt failed....


Nobody do anything stupid while I'm gone thanks.

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peta we agree that pooky is scum here.

Cabd and ffery think skitter needs to go first.

Endorsed, signed, and fucking locked and loaded.

UNVOTE: Skitter

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Notsci, brakes, NOW

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I know exactly what happened and why you are doping what you're doing but trust me for a bit.

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ffery, I am now suddenly a lot less sure of fast food.

Please hold me.

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Turnstile A50, not vote him, guys. We want to see what mod says about thread psot-A50 removal.

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So.... Ffery, RNGesus gave me another one. Just now.

And we wait a little bit.

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@Cabd- any thoughts on my EoD theory about the PTs?

Are we on the same page?

I am even more on this train as of a few minutes ago. It didn't really come up much last night.

But... time to utter the words I dread...


Marketplace Mafia III parallels.

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I do too, but i'm not gonna test till thurs so we shall see
Would like elaboration, etc tho

The short answer is that your claim doesn't make sense given other claims/crumbs AND it sure looks like pooky selfhammered turnstile when he did to prevent your elim yesterday.

We're not going to discuss the crumbs, but having a watcher and an IC able to wind up on the same side of the turnstile on day 1 is noooot something this game's review team lets happen barring massive other sorts of shenanigans.

dandelion you still agree?

Yes.

Chicken and Tofu are back on the menu.

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do you want the purple room vote again?

For very important reasons, this is tabled for a bit.

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Just make sure they send us a50 first like we discussed, yeah?

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It sounds like they have the whole wall but don’t want to stunt discussion

Wall? We have the entire fucking three novel series.


We're keeping it here until we flip them on ebay later in the game day.

[Dandelion Wine]

TwentyEight.

Very close!

[Dandelion Wine]

Would like an elaboration on what happens after my townflip plz

Would like a very very clear answer to this because i see how the next like 3 days are going to go if not

@cabd Are we just ignoring this or ...

You lot answering this or not

We absolutely aren't right now.

[Dandelion Wine]

I know exactly what happened and why you are doping what you're doing but trust me for a bit.

fwiw exactly is a strong word bc i can think of something that could've happened that wouldn't be accounted for by what we know but it's very likely that we know what happened
-ceph

also hello i'm back and i don't plan on reading the pages i missed yesterday unless i get bored

[Dandelion Wine]

Tofu are back on the menu.

i realize i could have this convo not in the thread but do u think it's really enough to justify tofu? i guess we should probably talk about this
-ceph

[Dandelion Wine]

Rules clarification - roles can only target Operatives in their own timestreams unless it says otherwise in the role.

Okay yeah sorry spiffeh tofu is off the menu again.

Yardbird it is.

[Dandelion Wine]

I think it's time to draw a bunch of arrows in that tierlist, ffery.

[Dandelion Wine]

personality and complete playstyle change, overplayed ego, etc.

He's done this shit as town before.

How has he not learned his lesson then.

surely you have previously met players who don't stop having big egos just because of being wrong. like, i dunno, flavor leaf.
-ceph

[Dandelion Wine]

mapo tofu

Yorokobe, Shounen.

Sorry am the big dumb.

[Dandelion Wine]

just the entrance? i feel like that'd be an easy post to make as either alignment. what about the rest of their content?

again why exactly were you willing to vote FL yesterday despite him being high up in your reads list?

I haven't really been paying super close attention to their posts, but I do think they passed off a decent vibe D1. I will read their posts start of today.
About Flavor, it really was Flavor Fever as he says. I thought he was openwolving a bit with the skitter push, and Pooky's vote was a sort of spark.

yuck
-ceph

[Dandelion Wine]

Tofu are back on the menu.

i realize i could have this convo not in the thread but do u think it's really enough to justify tofu? i guess we should probably talk about this
-ceph

tofu is gross ceph

i agree in principle but std has done a good job of finding ways to make me eat it
-ceph

[Dandelion Wine]

personality and complete playstyle change, overplayed ego, etc.

He's done this shit as town before.

How has he not learned his lesson then.

surely you have previously met players who don't stop having big egos just because of being wrong. like, i dunno, flavor leaf.
-ceph

Tis a rare breed of players.

How u doing today ceph? I don't like ur partner right now btw.

i'd like to make it a dying breed, they irritate me

im aight. i keep having to do my job today, which is unusual and upsetting. i have actually valuable things id rather be doing! i realize this reads as super entitled bc im so used to having a fake job that pays me to sit on my ass. im sry about cabd he has too much fun spinning webs sometimes
-ceph

[Dandelion Wine]

u cant scumread me im too cute
-ceph

[Dandelion Wine]

Soo, that's a weird fucking kill.
Why so aggro Firebringer on your 6D debut?
Pooky is prob town in my book, but I don't necessarily like how hard they pushed FL yesterday.

this slot's still scum btw
-ceph

[Dandelion Wine]

I don't get what you're acting upset about annie, we hit the seventh scum and what ultimately I think will end up proving to be the most satisfying scum elim

I was a little concerned after the initial flip but by the time night ended I was actually even happier with that flip than I was with seeoing red lmao

wait if the characterization of this person's posts from the purple room last night (from the part i wasn't reading) was correct at all this is like the worst post of all time?
@imperium/deacon suck it i'm right
-ceph

[Dandelion Wine]

i'm dumb

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...

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i'm gonna go hide now pls no hurt the cute warthog

[Dandelion Wine]

i get excited sometimes, this is why people don't let me touch mechanics

[Dandelion Wine]

How is calling out icky ate scummy?

i'm very clearly not serious about this
-ceph

[Dandelion Wine]

I'm pretty sure purple room guy can copy/paste, in plain text, the nacho wallpost, so long as it is not presented as a 'quote' but they're welcome to check with mod first

We were explicitly told we cannot do this. We must painstakingly paraphrase it.

[Dandelion Wine]

just push it to a new page, no one is backreading this game so no one will notice

Prophetic.

[Dandelion Wine]

I would really like to get this skittles thing firgured out today, can yall somehow figure out whether you have enough of a cc to elim? It better be correct though

@other thread.... Dunn to me, center pocket?

[Dandelion Wine]

I would really like to get this skittles thing firgured out today, can yall somehow figure out whether you have enough of a cc to elim? It better be correct though

@other thread.... Dunn to me, center pocket?

No, I mean if I'm tracking all the softs correctly, Dunn should have played paddycake. And now I have a new hermit crab shell.

[Dandelion Wine]

ffery when you wake up, not sure what to make of the cute fast food boy anymore. Still want to hold onto it, but losing reasons to.

[Dandelion Wine]

Notsci, did you ever play minish cap?

[Dandelion Wine]

How do I know you’re not fabricating purple room thread contents? I’m less skeptical of you than other slots but I think you should not be trusting cabd like you are rn. So until I ascertain you’re playing with a proper headspace I’ll treat you with the same ginger hands as my top suspects.

She would have to be scum with me to be fabricating it.

[Dandelion Wine]

i keep getting so confused by the abbreviation mwb. anyway,
UNVOTE: midwaybear
-ceph

[Dandelion Wine]

o hey a good post
-ceph

[Dandelion Wine]

imagine not townreading owl
-ceph

[Dandelion Wine]

Ffery.

[Dandelion Wine]

I need to go to the bert caves. Urgently.

[Dandelion Wine]

I need to go to the bert caves. Urgently.

The hole in one in four might be Peta.

And my theory about the combo pizza on that same page is now fact in evidence.

Chicken respite for now, this might be tofu after all, rejoice, spiffeh.

[Dandelion Wine]

Well I just got out of the shower and on the very off chance that that was real please be aware that I confirm literally everything that went down in the purple room because I was there with them and you should listen to the goddamn plan.

[Dandelion Wine]

The sad thing is this probably makes her incredibly likely town if real. The only real change I see to the plan that we made in the purple room is that we may want to look harder at the fast food boy after all

[Dandelion Wine]

Other than that keep at it I guess I'll be to a keyboard in a few minutes but I need to actually dry off now thanks a lot

[Dandelion Wine]

I need to go to the bert caves. Urgently.

The hole in one in four might be Peta.

And my theory about the combo pizza on that same page is now fact in evidence.

Chicken respite for now, this might be tofu after all, rejoice, spiffeh.

yeah honestly I'm done playing with this and with you.

Shoot one, vote the other. One scum in you and deacon every time.

Unloop: Dandelion Wine

Die. Just... die.

lolfake

-ceph

the percentage of real dayvigs is maybe actually zero and i believe it even less from you

[Dandelion Wine]

I'm leaving you info in a place that will find you before my stump does, deacon, assuming we are awaiting the cakey face.

I trust the messenger with my thoughts. You may as well.

[Dandelion Wine]

Cabd I'd like your thoughts on how this shook out.

:/

I just basically gave the conents of the purple room away to my proxy, can't unfuck that.

I don't think this is scum LLD unfortunately. Would make my life much easier right now to just vote her and be over it. I think you two just tilted each other out of ever having the ability to work cohesively together.... So now until I die I get to sit in the middle while wearing a bumper vest.

[Dandelion Wine]

I mean the fact that I was in the purple room is out now, anyways...

We might as well take advantage of that.

Other thread might need to have peta-midway intervention with Bell.

[Dandelion Wine]

What's done is done, all we can do is play on, damn the water hazards and sand traps.

[Dandelion Wine]

What's done is done, all we can do is play on, damn the water hazards and sand traps.

And for the record this is metaphor not code.

[Dandelion Wine]

It's unfortunate that you think that abt my role, but that is indeed what it is, and there's not much i can really do or say abt balance concerns.

I know that and I don't know how to make any progression on this so I'm kinda just filing it off to the side

-b

it's day 2, i think this is a good policy. we don't need to focus on mod mindgames right now.
-ceph

[Dandelion Wine]

Purple Room 693 is happening.

[Dandelion Wine]

aside @deacon do you guys still townread annie edison?

I take it you don't care for my opinion?

[Dandelion Wine]

aside @deacon do you guys still townread annie edison?

I take it you don't care for my opinion?

sure, i'd be interested as well!

Wavering on you somewhat causes wavering on him somewhat. But I'm still at about 90%.

[Dandelion Wine]

i want cephs opinions

on annie? i still think they're town, but i have to catch up on the other thread
-ceph

[Dandelion Wine]

Notsci, brakes, NOW

This is a bork-query: is there a reason not to have some transparency about this?

it wouldn't be the end of the world, but i can think of one reason not to
-ceph

[Dandelion Wine]

sure, why not?
-ceph

[Dandelion Wine]

Through no fault of its own, today fucking sucked, just like yesterday.

We had a team member lose his father to Covid home hospice, and staffing levels are super down.

I'm sorry but ya'll can deal with the warthog until tomorrow.

[Dandelion Wine]

Quick check in.

I think at this point pretty much the entire setup is crumbed or claimed :/

I wonder if we should just go ahead and talk about the elephant-investigative overloads in the room.

[Dandelion Wine]

I want it noted that Bell is now solidly tier 3.

[Dandelion Wine]

Last major ovaltine decoder wheel from me before I start putting cards on the table.


Annie: Regarding that league shoutcaster you wanted me to look into. I've watched like 50 of his games so far and you were right. He's so SO much better than the randoms they had shoutcasting the junior leagues before. Shame the entire league is shaking up this year.

[Dandelion Wine]

I hate all of you

But especially me?

[Dandelion Wine]

I'm not signing, so cabd.

I made ceph the loser who gets to sign this game.

[Dandelion Wine]

The one that likes talking in code

I AM WORKING ON CONVERTING CEPH TO THE CHURCH OF POWERQUERY SHHHHHHH

[Dandelion Wine]

Last major ovaltine decoder wheel from me before I start putting cards on the table.


Annie: Regarding that league shoutcaster you wanted me to look into. I've watched like 50 of his games so far and you were right. He's so SO much better than the randoms they had shoutcasting the junior leagues before. Shame the entire league is shaking up this year.

D O N T F O R G E T T O D R I N K Y O U R A R S E N I C

<3

Ffery, did you want me to effort-paraphrase this thread's wall?

[Dandelion Wine]

More or less correct. I'm mobile and so can't readily add major faxtchecking or anything.

[Dandelion Wine]

It's kind of sad that modern meta for crumbing is "make super obvious crumbs and pray only townies are smarter than a fifty grader" but here we are with half the setup already obvious.

The purple room essentially allowed us to weigh the setup with player slots. While nacho approached it from expliclty the reads angle.

Skitter scum was from both angles.

[Dandelion Wine]

Side note but muffins posts this game feel like you fed a bunch of muffin game iso lists into a nueral network and told it to post. Like, there's nothing unconventional at all. Compare to where we were at this point in time in illicit.

[Dandelion Wine]

That said it's really hard to explain the way I got to skitter scum without outing a bunch of additional softs so I'm sorry. I don't really think I can go much deeper.

[Dandelion Wine]

Peta if it helps nacho also said our thread was fucking insane to not get skitter day one.

[Dandelion Wine]

Deacon and Dandelion Wine, this is a 26 player game, not 2 13 player games

I think the mech solve is not nearly as convincing as you currently believe. I think 4, even 5 investigative roles, with some being weaker roles like modifier follower, is not necessarily out of place.

I think the mech-guilty mindset should be tabled until mass claim is a thing, instead of going off of vague crumbs, plus unrevealed roles

As an aside, Skitter looks like town to me based on their play and their discourse with pooky

:iagreewithdunnstral:
-ceph

maybe even about the skitter part but i'm not confident on that

[Dandelion Wine]

I just had a peta paranoia flash. :/

i've never been not having those.
-ceph

[Dandelion Wine]

Notsci, you around?

I think owl's questions are in your hands.

Are you the Tx or the Rx?

[Dandelion Wine]

Notsci you definitely want to turnstile a50 over to us, then.

[Dandelion Wine]

ffery- I think that turnstiling A50 is 100% best data and mechplay at this point.

A: it might give us the win in one thread outright if he's scum
B: Regardless of alignment, we now leash A50 to notsci's whims.
C: And so notsci gets data on the scarier side

[Dandelion Wine]

We also shouldnt have sent over anyone yesterday if we were going hard on this, annie is gonna actively murk the waters if this fails (and again, i think it's going to)

Not sending anyone yesterday would have meant they couldn't send us anyone today.

[Dandelion Wine]

I once again look at the other thread and think hp has scummy takes, my how that keeps on happening

The dunn take is just awful

almost like they're scum or something hmmmm

nah, people who post can't be scum i guess
-ceph

[Dandelion Wine]

@Skies can you like effortwall pooky-town-case?

Somebody beam that over or something

[Dandelion Wine]

The setup is waaaaaaaay, waaaaay, WAAY too fucking scumsided if his role is scum.
-E

You are missing a puzzle piece that makes this untrue.

UNVOTE: Purple Room Owl

[Dandelion Wine]

Inverted, if we could go ahead and hammer the purple room stuff, so that we can get to discussing the rest, that would be swell.

Thanks!

[Dandelion Wine]

What is Brian's claim?

He was a proven extra turnstile usage.

He allowed tea and crumpets to send both pooky AND pisskop.

[Dandelion Wine]

like it's not a self-preservation thing, and i've never made it such. i'm not trying to get people to listen to me *today*, i'm trying to get people to listen to me *after i flip town*.

if i flip scum you lot can do whatever you like, idc, but i happen to know that we dont' live in that universe, and that if you continue on your current course the next several days are going to be a clusterfuck, so i'm trying to prevent that from happening, and that means i need to actively undermining your position post-townflip, yes i'm going to do that

you seem really fixated on this and i don't know that anyone but you is mega convinced that it's going to happen.
i'm also not mega convinced you're even going anywhere today so the alarmism seems a bit much
-ceph

[Dandelion Wine]

i just don't see anyone saying "if this flips town we must continue to only elim power role claims until we find the fake one" and i'm not sure there's much reason to think it's going to happen

also i'm starting to resent being personally grouped in with "you people" or whatever when cabd and i are practically playing different games, i know im attached to him but i'm here too and i don't think i've pushed you once
-ceph

[Dandelion Wine]

all of town power is f'd in its starting timeline.

I disagree but I have a LOT more data than the average bear here and I'm starting to think given the number of claims out in the ether, we should fix that.

[Dandelion Wine]

Maybe it's time to edumacate.

[Dandelion Wine]

Last major ovaltine decoder wheel from me before I start putting cards on the table.


Annie: Regarding that league shoutcaster you wanted me to look into. I've watched like 50 of his games so far and you were right. He's so SO much better than the randoms they had shoutcasting the junior leagues before. Shame the entire league is shaking up this year.

D O N T F O R G E T T O D R I N K Y O U R A R S E N I C

<3

Ffery, did you want me to effort-paraphrase this thread's wall?

did I interpret this correctly last night?

No idea, i was aksing fi you wanted mt to effort paraphrase it up but then you posted it soon after so i didnt worry about it.

[Dandelion Wine]

all of town power is f'd in its starting timeline.

I disagree but I have a LOT more data than the average bear here and I'm starting to think given the number of claims out in the ether, we should fix that.

re: brian must be turbotown forever: yeah, this. and to the stuff that anyone could pick out if they tried hard enough, it's probably just egotistical to think scum wouldn't have picked up on it. the thing not many players could know is a different story
-ceph

[Dandelion Wine]

Inverted, if we could go ahead and hammer the purple room stuff, so that we can get to discussing the rest, that would be swell.

Thanks!

[Dandelion Wine]

Notsci I've got syry over irl and we are watching home alone and talking shit about you. I won't be posting until like midnight central sorry!

[Dandelion Wine]

I'm sticking with my guess. We can ask regus phillman who won the million dollars later.

[Dandelion Wine]

I'm sticking with my guess. We can ask regus phillman who won the million dollars later.

Not sure what this is in reference to.

You didnt watch "Who wants to be a millionaire"?

[Dandelion Wine]

Purple room post 673. Bottom left of the four.

I'm going to bed. They're making us work tomorrow all day ;~(

[Dandelion Wine]

Purple room lock on this end first, notsci.

Then send us A50.

[Dandelion Wine]

I can confirm this is how it works. Turnstile clear is announce immediately, last scum deaded due to elim would be annoucned upon the dual flips.

There is a third case to discuss once we've purple roomed and turnstiled from there to here.

[Dandelion Wine]

One more, and then we can get to talkin.

[Dandelion Wine]

Oh?

[Dandelion Wine]

Well, one more purple room vote and we can talk about it.

[Dandelion Wine]

Supposedly I'm supposed to be towncasing Pooky right now, but I don't feel particularly motivated to do it.

Extra Credit awarded for doing it in the style of a Hallmark Christmas Movie script

[Dandelion Wine]

Fire if I go get ceph to shitpost with you more, will you hammer the owly guy into the purple room?

[Dandelion Wine]

Unvote :~(

[Dandelion Wine]

(Also my work is making me work and they're dummyfaces for it)

[Dandelion Wine]

Yeah well, turns out people have computer issues a lot even on xmas eve.

[Dandelion Wine]

Not turnstile... purple room. :~((((((

[Dandelion Wine]

I want to drop my post reserved for when that locks and then fuck off.

[Dandelion Wine]

It's cool, you got drunk on the atmosphere of love in this thread, unlike the other one where they bully breakfast foods into suicide.

[Dandelion Wine]

Spiffeh will be sent to the Purple Room from the Forwards timestream.

superbowl9 will be sent to the Purple Room from the Inverted timestream.

PRESS THE BUTTON AND BEAM THIS SHIT OVER