Open 887: Coalition of Frogs (Game Over)

[Aristeia]

I just want to win the game

I don't even know who I would choose if I got to bop but I'd be more motivated if I knew I got to kill someone rather than like be ignored

[Aristeia]

there is nothing in the world that frustrates me more than spending effort on something and not getting to actually follow through

I would rather just not try at all or roll a dice and vote.

so like if all four of you "don't know" then let me try and win the game for all of us

[Aristeia]

I guess it's hard for me to collaborate with people and that's a personal failing of mine I am more than happy to actually discuss scumreads/townreads with you all if you actually have suspects you want to talk about

[Aristeia]

I am trying to let go of my desire to control whether we win this game or not but it's just really not easy for me and I'm sorry about that

[Aristeia]

this game just feels lethargic atp

[Aristeia]

I have never been mafia with Datisi so I wouldn't know

[Aristeia]

in my heart of hearts I really just want to flip hero [I don't care how many times I readflip on him]

[Aristeia]

VOTE: hero @ heart

sorry if wrong

[Aristeia]

Your stances do not feel like they are created from an uninformed mindset.

When I asked you why you townread Datisi at 99% town - your answers felt like you pulled up his iso and started looking for reasons/excuses rather than you knew why you townread him so heavily.

Your readflip on the slot also did not feel organic - saying that all the things you found townie could actually just be scum!him faking it is just ???

I find it hard to believe a uninformed player could express near absolute certainty on a read that is supported by so little actual reasoning and then readflip on it when its convenient/necesary to bus as the partner is going down and also provide absolutely no reasoning for the readflip.

It feels like everything you've done is just what you thought would help you win as mafia and not a town uninformed slot who is naturally coming to conclusions.

[Aristeia]

this page just reinforces my view that hero is just making up whatever he thinks will get him to the next day and doesn't actually have any concrete view about who the last mafia is

[Aristeia]

your decision to move from implosion to me is based on Merlyn unvoting you and saying its not implosion or bella which means her vote could land on me and not based on you believing I am mafia.

I haven't said anything about your competence as a player, I am saying you are being opportunistic in the way you vote rather than trying to actually vote who you believe is the last mafia.

[Aristeia]

also i kind of feel like every time you talk to implosion about him hammering you its like you are trying to scare him into not hammering you.

which doesn't make sense if you're town and you think he's scum who is angling to hammer you because like that's kind of his win condition and he knows that hammering you is a town flip so there's nothing to scare him with.

[Aristeia]

ehhhh, you know what

i'm capable of believing datisi was faking a weak, hesitant tr on ari because he didn't want to scumread his scum partner

also i kinda think ari's reaction to me having a 99% confidence on datisi town might be tmi from her lollll.

VOTE: ari

like I don't think the reasoning stated in this post is why you've decided to vote me because its incredibly weak.

it feels like you decided to vote me based on Merlyn unvoting you and stating she doesn't think it's implosion or bella because niether of them have hammered you - which leaves just me.

You think if she is willing to vote me and not willing to vote implosion then that means you have an easier way to lim me - hence you deciding to move your vote - then you decide to add in some reasoning that's pretty tangentially related.

You saying that my reaction to your 99% townread on datisi is TMI is just nonsensical - your read was terrible

regardless

of Datisi's alignment

[Aristeia]

your decision to move from implosion to me is based on Merlyn unvoting you and saying its not implosion or bella which means her vote could land on me and not based on you believing I am mafia.

who do you think i should be voting as town here?

generally as town you vote the person you believe is mafia

[Aristeia]

honestly ari i don't think this game is winnable for town if you are town and you keep tunneling me this way

even if i unvote you and vote scum, you are just gonna vote me off and then get voted off tomorrow

it's kinda ridiculous that you can't leave this aside for more than a few minutes with all your readflipping.

if you are town then there are two other town players other than me

if you vote for the last mafia and convince those other two town players to vote with you; we will win the game.

my read of you does not determine whether this game can be won or not.

[Aristeia]

its amusing that you are trying to guilt trip me to manipulate me to stop pushing you while also claiming i am the most likely to be mafia.

[Aristeia]

i feel she's been mischaracterizing my scum meta, mischaracterizing my play this game, and using contradictory assumptions about how i would play scum to scumcase me.

this is also kind of questionable because you are telling me I'm not allowed to show everyone else which game I'm metaing your play off of.

if you think i'm lying about how you play scum - why won't you let me cite the game I'm using to meta you? If it's actually contradictory they can read it for themselves and see that I'm lying about how you play scum? instead you say I'm not allowed to show them what I mean while also saying I'm lying about how you play mafia alignment.

[Aristeia]

if she's town i sincerely feel we just lose here because we'll both get mislimmed.

if we are both town and we both lose then we both lose.

not a single player has actually bothered to try to convince me to vote anyone else today.

we're pretty close to deadline and nobody is really trying to do anything else other than vague "ooh I want to hear from bella why won't she play the game"

like maybe bella is town who doesn't care about the game, maybe she's mafia who doesn't care about the game, who really knows? is threatening to lim her going to make her readable? no because she can just ghost the game because that's what bella does when she plays games, she ghosts a fair amount of time, just like mala does. it sucks but it is what it is.

one thing that's missing is you don't seem to be very convinced that Bella is mafia for lurking like you were convinced mala was mafia for lurking. seems like lurking is only a scum tell for you when you can actually get the person yeeted.

you're flailing, I still think you're mafia. if we lose we lose it's whatever maybe next time people will actually play the game they signed up for instead of sitting on the fence twiddling their thumbs and doing absolutely nothing.

[Aristeia]

stealing this from ausuka hehehe

[Aristeia]

vc:

hero(ari)
ari(hero

not voting(everyone else)

[Aristeia]

4 hours left

waiting for implosion or bella

[Aristeia]

congrats!

ty for modding Ausuka