Mini 1878: Darkest Dungeon Mafia - VICTORY

[Andrius]

"Can the defiled be consecrated? Can the fallen find rest?" - The Ancestor

Votecount

Wraith [3] - Arwen and Aragorn, Alisae, SirCakez
Arwen and Aragorn [1] - xRECKONERx
xRECKONERx [1] - Pine
Varsoon [1] - Vifam
Prism [1] - Varsoon
Human Sequencer [1] - Prism

Not Voting [5] - SlySly, Human Sequencer, Lycanfire, Wraith, Clumsy

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.
Day One will end at 14:00 PST on Jan-10-2017.

[Wraith]

That's literally the extent of what's going to come out of this "pressure" wagon so you can either back off or lynch me on page 4. Your choice.

Ok, this is a back to the wall plea for help. I generally like these cute demonstrations of innocence. My only concern is that the wagon is part RVS/part unsupported with not much real meat between the votes. So why is Wraith having a mental breakdown? He is not a novice, he should have sensed the nature of the wagon. For now I'd say back off and hope Wraith confronts his demons head on next time.

I don't like this wagon.
UNVOTE:

Such a dramatic exit from the Wraith wagon. Human Sequencer wanted us to take notice of this unvote but didn't want to indulge us with his motives.

- Aragorn

It's infuriating that I can't even shitpost at the very start of a game without some player or another having a goddamn problem with it.

I would literally have better luck in my D1 play if I announced at the start of the day my intention to lurk through it. Which I'm considering doing now.

[SirCakez]

I have been uber busy rigging lights today and am now going to a job orientation! So yeah not going to be here until late tonight, sorry.

[Wraith]

Or fuck it, I could go the opposite direction and just spout whatever I want without a filter. No matter what I do in any closed setup I am always a lightning rod of suspicion, so I might as well take advantage of that.

So Arwen, why did you have a problem with this post:

See now I don't want to Curio you Vifam because your opening was townie :/

Is voting Varsoon a towntell?

but not these posts?

VOTE: Arwen and Aragorn

Pressure cookin' here.

The urn description sounds shifty, so I'd rather not send someone super townie to get it.

"I do not know what strength is in my blood, but I swear to you, I will not let the forces of The Hamlet fall, nor our adventurers fail in our journey to the gates of hell. Anwen (Frozen Angel) has bound herself to me, forsaking the immortal life of her people. She would rather share one hydra with me than face all the ages of this world alone.

Now, into the darkness we begin our quest. But we do not fear, for we bear the light that shall reveal the path to our redemption."

- Aragorn (Ser Keyser Söze, of House Gondor)

As the urn holds the ashes of the dead I do not think we should open it. We could disturb the spirits of the family that once inhabited the estate. That is my only fear, as an urn is a symbol of remembrance not fortune. I say we tread carefully.
- Aragorn

consider my vote a real vote now lmfao

This has the makings of LOTR visits Strahd! Can the mod/co-mod join us for this one?!

xReck, wow, that's a name I haven't thought of in years!!

Curio: Alisae

[Arwen and Aragorn]

Wraith, can you supply a read on me?

Why were you more concerned on reads looking in then reads looking outwards (of the other players)? You already know your alignment - will his answer help you discern his?

Why do you want Wraith to explain this moot point from pages ago when he's obvtown?

Arwen is FA, right?

Please do not interject between Arwen's and Wraith's interaction - it is clear they are both frustrated with each other and have become very impatient. You leaching on Wraith's frustration is suspicious - let them resolve their conflict directly.


[Wraith's frustrations feel genuine. @Wraith - did you feel Arwen's refusal to let the case rest as scum-indicative?]
- Aragorn

[Wraith]

Wraith, can you supply a read on me?

Why were you more concerned on reads looking in then reads looking outwards (of the other players)? You already know your alignment - will his answer help you discern his?

Why do you want Wraith to explain this moot point from pages ago when he's obvtown?

Arwen is FA, right?

Please do not interject between Arwen's and Wraith's interaction - it is clear they are both frustrated with each other and have become very impatient. You leaching on Wraith's frustration is suspicious - let them resolve their conflict directly.


[Wraith's frustrations feel genuine. @Wraith - did you feel Arwen's refusal to let the case rest as scum-indicative?]
- Aragorn

Yes. For the moment.

[Arwen and Aragorn]

Good - because you invested alot of emotion into it. I can see the frustration pouring through your text.

'It is only through times of struggle we see the true nature of our companions'

- Aragorn

[Arwen and Aragorn]

@A&A: Do you think your vote is going to get them to significantly interact with you, though? And, furthermore, is a player failing to significantly interact with you regarded as worthy of a lynch?

Arwen called them "shitty" but I like these questions from Varsoon (motivation) - they are pertinent questions that show he wants to help Arwen see the way he thinks her vote could be used more effectively due to Wraith's reaction. However, he must respect that a scumread is a scumread and that Arwen does not bow to any mortal man and will vote anyone she likes. We have gained information from people defending and attacking Arwen's formidable swordplay and relentless aerial assault of arrows.

- Aragorn

[Arwen and Aragorn]

Votecount

Wraith [3] - Arwen and Aragorn, Alisae, SirCakez
Arwen and Aragorn [1] - xRECKONERx
xRECKONERx [1] - Pine
Varsoon [1] - Vifam
Prism [1] - Varsoon
Human Sequencer [1] - Prism

Not Voting [5] - SlySly, Human Sequencer, Lycanfire, Wraith, Clumsy

The only vote I like here is Prism's (which even surprised me as I wasn't fond of his intro).

The rest are bad/stagnate - I will need to talk to Arwen to discuss our consolidated reads.

Anyone not using their vote right now, I have a sharp pointed gift awaiting all of you... (excluding Wraith though, he's gone through enough already).

- Aragorn

[SirCakez]

Wow fuck you guys too

<3

So I'm responsable for knowing and catching every single little crumb I see when I'm on a mobile device?

This felt overtly defensive, making a mental note.

Not a big fan of the Varsoon curio votes.

Selecting the first person to say "I can't trust that you're town, but I know I'm town!" is an awful way to pick it.

This is exactly why I'm voting him for it. It felt like he was trying to fake towniness with that kind of posting.

VOTE: Wraith
Good with this wagon

Sequencer what's a crusader? I just triple checked my role PM and didn't see any mention of crusaders (inb4 this somehow looks like a scumslip <.<)

Crusader is a class from the game.

Good 2 know.

SirCakez admitted he thinks I'm trying to make fake appeals for towniness while jumping on the later end of a fast growing wagon, but with little reason why that wagon was appealing. Feels like he wants me to get the Curio because I might not be town but then he goes and votes someone else, running contrary to letting us have an informed day with the investigation early and lynch later.

I voted Wraith because I agreed his early posts were scummy. I wasn't worried about a derphammer given the generally experienced playerlist.

Nope. I'm now Virtuous, which makes me immune to Afflictions.

Whale then

Wraith's reaction to being wagoned felt way too defensive and freaked out. His trying to be all "I was just messing around!" about it feels bad too.
That said I also dislike HS's wagon hopping, like others have noted.

[Alisae]

Hmm...Now that I think about it. HS hopping off the Wraith wagon suggests a few things to me.
A. HS is scum along with Wraith who got off the wagon because he was scared Wraith would get lynched.
B. HS is town that just got off because he was satisifed with Wraith. IE scum doesn't really have a reason to back off here because the wagon was big.

Knowing how quickly the Wraith wagon was started, I think HS is town along with Wraith.
UNVOTE:

[Alisae]

There was a C. But I forgot what it was so I didn't include it.

[Alisae]

Either way, time to look for scum on the Wraith wagon!

[Alisae]

Clumsy, Prism, Arwen and Aragorn, Alisae, SirCakez, Human Sequencer.

Putting those names here for self-reference.

[Wraith]

SirCakez is

definitely

trying to retroactively justify a crap vote.

[Alisae]

Yeah Wraith, I'm considering going to either Cakez or Arwen.
Don't like their Curio on Varsoon considering they were like "we should give the Curio to someone who isn't acting townish."
I'm reading Arwen's ISO so ye.

[Alisae]

VOTE: SirCakez
I don't like Arwen or Cakez, don't get me wrong, but I wanna put my vote here cuz of the thingy I said about cakez in the post above me, the thing Wraith said, and I sorta don't like their comment about my defensive stance. I just get the feeling that if I were to get run up they would shove that in my face and use it against me.

[SirCakez]

SirCakez is

definitely

trying to retroactively justify a crap vote.

And here we see the wild scum in their natural habitat, desperately grasping for straws

Yeah Wraith, I'm considering going to either Cakez or Arwen.
Don't like their Curio on Varsoon considering they were like "we should give the Curio to someone who isn't acting townish."
I'm reading Arwen's ISO so ye.

Varsoon isn't acting townish, not sure what there isn't to like.

[Alisae]

okay. to be fair, I was sorta going with the flow on that.
Let me look at the dude's ISO.
Hold on.

[Alisae]

Varsoon you really wanted that Curio, why again?

[Arwen and Aragorn]

Hmm...Now that I think about it. HS hopping off the Wraith wagon suggests a few things to me.
A. HS is scum along with Wraith who got off the wagon because he was scared Wraith would get lynched.
B. HS is town that just got off because he was satisifed with Wraith. IE scum doesn't really have a reason to back off here because the wagon was big.

Knowing how quickly the Wraith wagon was started, I think HS is town along with Wraith.
UNVOTE:

Yes, why did you forget option C? (HS-scum and Wraith-Town.)
'Scum-HS realises he could win some town-points by jumping ship early'.

"because the wagon was big" - this would only be a strong point if this wagon was later in the game. Wraith's wagon was primarily a pressure wagon that was sure to be dismantled (as with the ebb and flow of all RVS wagons).

It is short-sighted (and unnervingly lacking paranoia) to label them both town.

- Aragorn

[Arwen and Aragorn]

Clumsy, Prism, Arwen and Aragorn, Alisae, SirCakez, Human Sequencer.

Putting those names here for self-reference.

Presuming we have 3 scum it is very unlikely an Alisae-SirCakez-HS scumteam. I have a bias against the idea of the WHOLE scumteam jumping on the same wagon (VCA). That means hopefully in Day 1 at least one of you will be promoted to a town read/lean.

- Aragorn

[Arwen and Aragorn]

Varsoon isn't acting townish, not sure what there isn't to like.

Please can you show me

scum-Varsoon

(by way of quote-analysis/tone?/motivations/other metrics).
Your position intrigues me.

- Aragorn

[Alisae]

Hmm...Now that I think about it. HS hopping off the Wraith wagon suggests a few things to me.
A. HS is scum along with Wraith who got off the wagon because he was scared Wraith would get lynched.
B. HS is town that just got off because he was satisifed with Wraith. IE scum doesn't really have a reason to back off here because the wagon was big.

Knowing how quickly the Wraith wagon was started, I think HS is town along with Wraith.
UNVOTE:

Yes, why did you forget option C? (HS-scum and Wraith-Town.)
'Scum-HS realises he could win some town-points by jumping ship early'.

"because the wagon was big" - this would only be a strong point if this wagon was later in the game. Wraith's wagon was primarily a pressure wagon that was sure to be dismantled (as with the ebb and flow of all RVS wagons).

It is short-sighted (and unnervingly lacking paranoia) to label them both town.

- Aragorn

I'm taking into consideration how fast the wagon gained speed.
And I forgot it because I got distracted by my dad calling me and telling me about how he was at a Trump Protest and that he left cuz flash grenades were being thrown.
It wasn't fun.

[Alisae]

Clumsy, Prism, Arwen and Aragorn, Alisae, SirCakez, Human Sequencer.

Putting those names here for self-reference.

Presuming we have 3 scum it is very unlikely an Alisae-SirCakez-HS scumteam. I have a bias against the idea of the WHOLE scumteam jumping on the same wagon (VCA). That means hopefully in Day 1 at least one of you will be promoted to a town read/lean.

- Aragorn

Well I'm not scum, but besides that agreed.