Mini Normal 2187: PIFiMDM [game over!]

[Datisi]

Vote count 1.06

with 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-01-04 23:00:00).

execution

Elements [4]:

Alchemist21, Kazyan, Hayker, NoPowerOverMe

Lunar Martian [2]:

PenguinPower, Papa Zito

NoPowerOverMe [2]:

Dannflor

, ben dover123

Gamma Emerald [1]:

Lunar Martian

ben dover123 [1]:

Gamma Emerald

Hayker [1]:

Elements

Not voting [2]:

HeWhoSwims, 2ndchosen1

mod notes

~ penguinpower v/la for a few days

flavour

[NoPowerOverMe]

ben and dann are heavy townreads. Alchemist and Gamma are light townreads. Elements is a scumread.

[ben dover123]

Like I said, I'm not pocketing, I'm townhunting. If you hate it so much I'll vote elsewhere.

VOTE: Elements

But I feel like the need to complement and then follow me is overdoing it, especially in Post #172 it sounded like you were blatantly following me, which I don't like. If you are townhunting, then who else do you have in mind?

[NoPowerOverMe]

I don't do things in a quiet manner, that's something you'll just need to get used to.

[ben dover123]

Also what do you think of Kazyan? Tell me that you have made some new progression on Kaz if you are voting Elements now.

Pedit:

I don't do things in a quiet manner, that's something you'll just need to get used to.

Maybe so, but I'm still unsettled.

[NoPowerOverMe]

I thought his post was pretty scummy. I'd have him as a light scumread.

[NoPowerOverMe]

If you're unsettled, that's a good thing.

[Elements]

Elements is a scumread.

Why do you scumread me?

[NoPowerOverMe]

Because you voted LM.

[Elements]

what did you dislike specifically about my vote?

[Alchemist21]

I thought his post was pretty scummy. I'd have him as a light scumread.

What didn’t you like about Kayzan’s post? Scumlean on me aside I thought it was a good one.

[NoPowerOverMe]

Ok, I didn't see his later post. Seems like more plausible town and it probably moves him up to a null for me.

[Alchemist21]

Ok but question still stands, what did you think was scummy about the post you thought was scummy?

[Gamma Emerald]

Vote count 1.06

with 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-01-04 23:00:00).

execution

Elements [4]:

Alchemist21, Kazyan, Hayker, NoPowerOverMe

Lunar Martian [2]:

PenguinPower, Papa Zito

NoPowerOverMe [2]:

Dannflor

, ben dover123

Gamma Emerald [1]:

Lunar Martian

ben dover123 [1]:

Gamma Emerald

Hayker [1]:

Elements

Not voting [2]:

HeWhoSwims, 2ndchosen1

mod notes

~ penguinpower v/la for a few days

flavour

I feel this VC flavor in my soul.

[Gamma Emerald]

I guess that second part makes sense.

Why do you think LM sinking would be unlikely here?

Well ben had put into the thread that LM tends to be awkward, so we can use that to not jump to conclusions

What? This whole conversation started because people were jumping to those conclusions, and your push continued despite what we were saying, so how did you think that was going to prevent a sinking?

I was pushing because I wanted to see how LM handled the pressure. I’m trying to cultivate a playstyle out of something I tend to do inadvertently, which is doing strong pushes with the intent to place pressure on people to make them readable. I’m trying to make it so I don’t end up projecting false confidence when I do that, as well as seeing if I can finally figure out a way to kick my meta dependence.
Also I don’t recall you saying much in that regard before recently

[Gamma Emerald]

I like the drive in the above post but let's not try and interaction analysis before a flip, please.

What’s your issue with the analysis there?
I do think the solving there is worth a mild townread tho

[Gamma Emerald]

Ok but question still stands, what did you think was scummy about the post you thought was scummy?

Seconding this, that seemed like a very weak stance for NPOM to take, since it doesn’t define any actual post

[ben dover123]

I was pushing because I wanted to see how LM handled the pressure. I’m trying to cultivate a playstyle out of something I tend to do inadvertently, which is doing strong pushes with the intent to place pressure on people to make them readable. I’m trying to make it so I don’t end up projecting false confidence when I do that, as well as seeing if I can finally figure out a way to kick my meta dependence.
Also I don’t recall you saying much in that regard before recently

I like this, but I still think LM makes awkward posts in different situations and he ends up sinking anyways.

[Dannflor]

UNVOTE:

[Papa Zito]

Now that I'm typing that out and have gone back to check each post, it appears that I've already gotten some wires crossed here on the why-who-and-when of accusation, so my whole point above doesn't apply here even if it applies generally. These are straight-up mistakes on my part; I mixed up earlier vote reactions with the Lunar vote reactions and probably something else, too, so I'm not going to make any more claims about Elements. That has been discussed to death anyway.

Ok, so now that you've re-evaluated Elements, what is your opinion on that slot?

[HeWhoSwims]

Hey squad. Christmas and all was busier than I expected so I'm still catching up a little. Figured I'd just post my answers to this to show my face and such. Would prefer to do a catchup tomorrow when its not 2.30AM and such.

RQS:
Best game as town or scum?

Phew haven't played since like 2018. I think I played a pretty peak-of-my-skills Town game in Project Pinecone here. this was a pretty fun scum game, could've done better, but with quite some help from the town we were able to pull out a win.

Nicknames?

HWS, HotWaterServices or just call me Ferdi which is my go-to nickname on the interwebs.

How is your activity going to be this game?

Good. Hopefully. Know I'm not showing much for it but I hope I can with the christmas things done and so.

[Lunar Martian]

Well ben had put into the thread that LM tends to be awkward, so we can use that to not jump to conclusions

???
LM is awkward and that awkwardness got him to sink right to the bottom in 2043.

I strongly disagree. But it really isn't important. What is important is that you're doing the same thing I called you out for there. You're overconfident and pushing things you know nothing about. And in this game its also making people think you're Mafia. Maybe you should chill out, friend.

[Lunar Martian]

VOTE: Elements

Ben is my top town read and seems like he knows what he is doing.

This feels like pocketing rather than solving.

Also I don't like elements voting limbaity Lunar.

This post is OK, but it seems like a really easy thing to say. Why pick on elements and not the other people who are voting for me?

Townhunting is a major part of my game.

Doesn't feel like you're really evaluating whether Ben is Town though. It's just a compliment and an invitation to work together, not a reason for thinking someone is Town.

Any response, NoPower?

[ben dover123]

I strongly disagree. But it really isn't important. What is important is that you're doing the same thing I called you out for there. You're overconfident and pushing things you know nothing about. And in this game its also making people think you're Mafia. Maybe you should chill out, friend.

In what way am I overconfident? Who thinks I'm Mafia besides Gamma?

But yes, I will accept your offer to take a small break.

[Hayker]

I'm very comfortable with my vote on elements right now. He pushed someone elses vote, opportunistically hopped on the lunar wagon, OMGUS voted me. I feel the pressure is where it is needed for now.

Can you explain your last two votes elements?