Open 825 - PYP X/Y: HoS_S [game over!]

[PenguinPower]

Boop

[Something_Smart]

Bullshit. ducky wasn't trying to force a player to out their alt under a flimsy pretense.

I'm not trying to force anything... Thor is welcome to not out his alt and get pushed by me. Ducky wasn't even giving him a choice.

[PenguinPower]

Using an alt status to force in game actions via an ultimatum feel gross to me but isn’t currently against the rules.

[House]

Bullshit. ducky wasn't trying to force a player to out their alt under a flimsy pretense.

I'm not trying to force anything... Thor is welcome to not out his alt and get pushed by me. Ducky wasn't even giving him a choice.

Scum doesn't deserve one, tbh.

[Something_Smart]

Well, that's assuming that he's actually as bad at mechanics as he's acting. If he isn't, then he doesn't have that option, you are right.

[House]

Well, that's assuming that he's actually as bad at mechanics as he's acting. If he isn't, then he doesn't have that option, you are right.

I don't care about how bad he is or isn't at mechanics.

How else do you want to defend your behavior?

[Gamma Emerald]

Titus got neighborizer when Enchant died, I mean.

UB typically works on roles of the same alignment
Idk about the functionality in this setup though

It’s in the OP that it’s the first PR. Not distinctive as to alignment.

Fair enough

[Something_Smart]

I'll put it this way, if it makes it clearer: I've seen lots of scum players use incredibly shady tactics, including (but not limited to) playing on an alt in a way that they would never get away with playing on their main, to the point where I can believe that some people (especially old ones) might try this as scum.

Whereas, I don't think I've met a single person who displayed both the amount of interest in mechanics and the amount of ineptitude with mechanics that Thor has. I've seen some people be bad at mechanics; but that's because they don't care, and they would never go to the lengths he did to make these theories.

[Something_Smart]

How else do you want to defend your behavior?

What about my behavior needs defending?

[PenguinPower]

Miss Scum is ~9 hours from prod 3. Can we just elim and move on?

[House]

How else do you want to defend your behavior?

What about my behavior needs defending?

Coercion.

[House]

I'll put it this way, if it makes it clearer: I've seen lots of scum players use incredibly shady tactics, including (but not limited to) playing on an alt in a way that they would never get away with playing on their main, to the point where I can believe that some people (especially old ones) might try this as scum.

Whereas, I don't think I've met a single person who displayed both the amount of interest in mechanics and the amount of ineptitude with mechanics that Thor has. I've seen some people be bad at mechanics; but that's because they don't care, and they would never go to the lengths he did to make these theories.

And that's a fine reason to base a vote.

Carrot & stick is not.

[House]

Miss Scum is ~9 hours from prod 3. Can we just elim and move on?

I'm good with either Thor or MM, today.

I think they're both scum.

[Something_Smart]

I'm not trying to coerce him into outing his main. I'm trying to sort him, and if he's town, then him revealing his main will help that. It's not my fault that that's the case.

[PenguinPower]

The continued pressure to do so when it’s obvious he doesn’t want to is gross.

[House]

Okay, if you insist.

VOTE: PenguinPower

Oh look, he didn't even need to bow to your veiled bribe.

[Something_Smart]

I mean... I'm playing to win. It will help my wincon. It's not against any rules. I'm sorry you don't like it.

[Something_Smart]

In fact, the argument could be made that everyone protecting him is gamethrowing, because they're playing to an out-of-game benefit (letting Thor keep his alt) over their wincon.

[PenguinPower]

Not a discussion for this game. Sure.

[Something_Smart]

That's fair. But do you understand my point of view?

[PenguinPower]

Seems to me that you are bringing in account status as an in game reason. Again. Probably not a discussion for this game.

[House]

Nope.

Already stated why.

[Something_Smart]

Seems to me that you are bringing in account status as an in game reason. Again. Probably not a discussion for this game.

I mean, as long as meta is an in-game reason, so is this. I'm not asking if you think this is okay-- you've made that clear. I'm just asking if you can understand my point of view.

[PenguinPower]

I can.

[Datisi]

@mod: can UB inherit a role of the opposite alignment?

yes.