[Mini 1835] - Everything Is A Lie Mafia 4 (Abandoned)

[The Counsel]

Vote for the towniest players -> they get lynched -> they get into the dead thread (make livings join Counsel) -> they control the Counsel -> they get Counsel's voting power

We can add "living" players to the counsel. You shouldn't use the vote tag or hint the moderator in any manner that you want to vote your desired town counselors for real. The votes you submit to counsel might be in the form of read lists.

The dead counselors may continue the game using this slot.

[SirCakez]

UNVOTE:
Can dead people post through the Counsel?

[Rylai and Lina]

The Counsel might just be wgeurts
But yeah if someone is controlling them they need to out

VOTE: the counsel

you semi sheeped leather pov in the matter but you want the slot lynched before outing the info they promised. This is hypocritical as fuck

~Lina

[Rylai and Lina]

Idk Shiro, but FA is smarter than this.

but Shiro is smart!

[Rylai and Lina]

I am trying to think if its a good approach in this as well or not by considering the stuff they said about how they operate and to write down possible theories about the whole interactions.

No. That's bullshit.

Patches snowed people with their benevolent sounding demeanor and promises of information as well.

The Counsel IS Patches.

Me and Shiro were fairly certain patches was 3p or scum from the start(based on flavor alone), point is not every proxy in every game is going to be scum and we can easily test the counsel out by seeing if it can invite someone for real to control that acc with whoever is controlling it now.

Like, even if it is scum controlled now, we can force it to either add enough townfolk to make it town controlled or kill it if it doesnt cooperate.

~Rylai

[Rylai and Lina]

even if it is scum controlled now, we can force it to either add enough townfolk to make it town controlled

This needs further investigation and details though. Thats why that slot needs to get sorted asap

[SirCakez]

The Counsel might just be wgeurts
But yeah if someone is controlling them they need to out

VOTE: the counsel

you semi sheeped leather pov in the matter but you want the slot lynched before outing the info they promised. This is hypocritical as fuck

~Lina

The vote was for pressure so they'd out the info.
That's why I just unvoted.

[House]

SirCakes

Shos
Davsto

Leather and Lace

BulletNLynchproof

Rylai & Lina

Yume

farside22

Flames682
Vedith
KuroiXHF
Ircher
xyzzy

Everyone

: Give me a Yea on knowing the private voter or an amazing reason why we shouldn't.

[Leather and Lace]

SirCakes

Shos
Davsto

Leather and Lace

BulletNLynchproof

Rylai & Lina

Yume

farside22

Flames682
Vedith
KuroiXHF
Ircher
xyzzy

Everyone

: Give me a Yea on knowing the private voter or an amazing reason why we shouldn't.

[Leather and Lace]

Like, even if it is scum controlled now, we can force it to either add enough townfolk to make it town controlled or kill it if it doesnt cooperate.

The glaring flaw in your theory is that they require a public consensus before adding town.

Now just what do you think is going to happen the second they a townie?

[Rylai and Lina]

The vote was for pressure so they'd out the info.

what?!

You asked them to out the player behind the slot not any kinds of clarification. what are you talking about?

[Rylai and Lina]

Now just what do you think is going to happen the second they a townie?

I don't understand this question.

I really have no idea how they can add someone or whatever. If that slot get confirmed / or not confirmed but real voices soon It can be treated like any other slots in the game in a lesser degree.

~Lina

[Leather and Lace]

Now just what do you think is going to happen the second they a townie?

I don't understand this question.

I really have no idea how they can add someone or whatever. If that slot get confirmed / or not confirmed but real voices soon It can be treated like any other slots in the game in a lesser degree.

~Lina

Not the subject to troll me on.

The second town is chosen to be added, scum will kill them that night.

[Rylai and Lina]

cant we decide a pool to avoid that?

[farside22]

The Counsel might just be wgeurts
But yeah if someone is controlling them they need to out

VOTE: the counsel

you semi sheeped leather pov in the matter but you want the slot lynched before outing the info they promised. This is hypocritical as fuck

~Lina

The vote was for pressure so they'd out the info.
That's why I just unvoted.

Who's scum cakez?

[Leather and Lace]

cant we decide a pool to avoid that?

Sure, but it won't stop me from screaming for their lynch.

Also, the pool just gives scum a list of the most widely townread players in one nice, compact post.

How anti-town is that?

[Rylai and Lina]

hmmm

[Leather and Lace]

The Counsel might just be wgeurts
But yeah if someone is controlling them they need to out

VOTE: the counsel

you semi sheeped leather pov in the matter but you want the slot lynched before outing the info they promised. This is hypocritical as fuck

~Lina

The vote was for pressure so they'd out the info.
That's why I just unvoted.

Who's scum cakez?

The Counsel. Shoot them.

[Rylai and Lina]

I never considered "townreads" as a resources that must be kept hidden

Thats stupid way to play mafia. Town must be transparent with their reads as thats the only thing that matters for their team members. In all game threw I saw in all my games so far main reason for town loss was the secrecy of the reads.

[SirCakez]

Clarification = info on who's behind the slot
Currently my scum reads are xyzzy and BNL

[Leather and Lace]

I never considered "townreads" as a resources that must be kept hidden

Thats stupid way to play mafia. Town must be transparent with their reads as thats the only thing that matters for their team members. In all game threw I saw in all my games so far main reason for town loss was the secrecy of the reads.

There's a difference between players being open about their reads (which they can still hedge on for good reason such as compelling cooperation from scum), and putting out their actual strongest townreads.

You should know better than this

[Leather and Lace]

Clarification = info on who's behind the slot
Currently my scum reads are xyzzy and BNL

Are you saying you have no interest in The Counsel outing who privately controls their second vote?

I need that intent stated explicitly in order to believe it.

[xyzzy]

SirCakes

Shos
Davsto

Leather and Lace

BulletNLynchproof

Rylai & Lina

Yume

farside22

Flames682
Vedith
KuroiXHF
Ircher
xyzzy

Everyone

: Give me a Yea on knowing the private voter or an amazing reason why we shouldn't.

sure, yea.

[Rylai and Lina]

I never considered "townreads" as a resources that must be kept hidden

Thats stupid way to play mafia. Town must be transparent with their reads as thats the only thing that matters for their team members. In all game threw I saw in all my games so far main reason for town loss was the secrecy of the reads.

There's a difference between players being open about their reads (which they can still hedge on for good reason such as compelling cooperation from scum), and putting out their actual strongest townreads.

You should know better than this

first stop evaluating my play

second there isn't actually. If every slot are transparent with their reads the strongest townreads are outed eventually. I have no idea where are you trying to go with this twisting way of conversing.

This is true regardless "I really have no idea how they can add someone or whatever. If that slot get confirmed / or not confirmed but real voices soon It can be treated like any other slots in the game in a lesser degree."

The word "if" explains that sentence by itself. Yes the current way for making that slot more stable has its dangers but thats another topic - to find an stable way for solving this issue or to just remove the question instead of trying to answer it is something we must discuss.

[Rylai and Lina]

first stop evaluating my play

I meant stop evaluating my intelligence over play. You have all the right to question my line of think and pov.

it just started to feel your harassing me.