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[Alianna]

4.09

Votecount 4.09

geraintm (E-2): Lycanfire, Psyche, Enchant
Psyche (1): Gypyx
Lycanfire (1): Random Nurse

Not Voting (4): Oblivion, geraintm, Thomith, KayJayQueue

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to secure an execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2024-04-29 13:51:06).

Mod Notes: The combined mod ISO is here.

[Oblivion]

Oblivion, we need your susses for the day.

It really has checked out to be honest.

[Oblivion]

It would kill KayJay Titus RN Gera today.

[Gypyx]

VOTE: KayJay

i think i need to take the vote that lands on not gera here

[KayJayQueue]

Well I don’t think I’ll be sheeping that one lol

[geraintm]

sorry been ot of the day.

find three of the people i have sus are voting me, strongly suspect some town are being manipulated into my elimination

VOTE: lycan as a place holder till later because someone who has been pushing me is scum

[KayJayQueue]

sorry been ot of the day.

find three of the people i have sus are voting me, strongly suspect some town are being manipulated into my elimination

VOTE: lycan as a place holder till later because someone who has been pushing me is scum

Well it’s not him imo. I don’t like this vote.

[Gypyx]

I really like this vote personally, i don't think scum!gera makes this sort of stuff

[Lycanfire]

Like....I am tempted to just ignore the hood. We have all made The assumption there is scum in there, but i dont think the odds are any better than a Random player in the game so it isn't much use for a scum hunting tactic.

Or am I totally missing something? Some better than me explain it otherwise?

I think the odds are much better choosing 1 out of 5 instead of 1 of 8 (if you’re ignoring the hood, 1 of 13 if not)
Unless you’re arguing it’s not guaranteed that scum is in the 5. But everyone with experience so far has said there pretty much has to be (high percentage)
Sure, I highly doubt all scum are contained in the neighborhood so we still have a shot of catching scum outside but I wouldn’t say our odds are “better”.

But also I don’t fall under the “someone better than me” to explain so feel free to ignore.

Assuming there is 1 scum in the hood, that is 1 in 5.
Assuming then 2 scum not in the hood, that is 2 in 10. (Well 9 because I'm not in the hood)

I have no idea what you mean with 1 in 13??

How did he know this early d2

[Oblivion]

VOTE: KayJay

It is down to make a counter wagon, why not.

[KayJayQueue]

If it’s between Gera and Lycan (because I’m obviously not voting myself), I’m going to stick with my gut that Lycan is town.

VOTE: gera

[Psyche]

woah interesting

[KayJayQueue]

If it’s between Gera and Lycan (because I’m obviously not voting myself), I’m going to stick with my gut that Lycan is town.

VOTE: gera

Sorry I forgot to say E-1 but at this point we’ve all claimed so I didn’t really think about it.

[Psyche]

It would kill KayJay Titus RN Gera today.

why this order? don't think ive seen you talk about the relative scumminess of these slots

[Oblivion]

It would kill KayJay Titus RN Gera today.

why this order? don't think ive seen you talk about the relative scumminess of these slots

Not ordered. Just was listing names from its PoE that aren't off limits.

[KayJayQueue]

It would kill KayJay Titus RN Gera today.

why this order? don't think ive seen you talk about the relative scumminess of these slots

It has scumread me since the Ranger flip. Maybe It hasn’t gone into a ton of detail but I know I’ve been in It’s solve since day 3. I think a lot of the reason has to do with me not voting Ranger and then subsequently not doing enough to be townread by it. I don’t know how to prove myself though.

[geraintm]

Like....I am tempted to just ignore the hood. We have all made The assumption there is scum in there, but i dont think the odds are any better than a Random player in the game so it isn't much use for a scum hunting tactic.

Or am I totally missing something? Some better than me explain it otherwise?

I think the odds are much better choosing 1 out of 5 instead of 1 of 8 (if you’re ignoring the hood, 1 of 13 if not)
Unless you’re arguing it’s not guaranteed that scum is in the 5. But everyone with experience so far has said there pretty much has to be (high percentage)
Sure, I highly doubt all scum are contained in the neighborhood so we still have a shot of catching scum outside but I wouldn’t say our odds are “better”.

But also I don’t fall under the “someone better than me” to explain so feel free to ignore.

Assuming there is 1 scum in the hood, that is 1 in 5.
Assuming then 2 scum not in the hood, that is 2 in 10. (Well 9 because I'm not in the hood)

I have no idea what you mean with 1 in 13??

How did he know this early d2

Because every game I play has 3 scum in it, and I will ebelieve that unless proved otherwise.

[geraintm]

I think this is the elimination we should have had yesterday.

Why? What on earth have I done yesterday or today that makes me scum?

[geraintm]

ok, a little catching up to do.

start here

VOTE: Snow

this vote, combined with them jumping on late yesterday raises concerns. if there was a bus then this is where i think it was, following up with trying to direct day 3 so obviously.

post 1412 is almost like they have set up snow for a while to take the fall today. lycan has also been setting snow up.

(i kinda want to flip snow because it gives so much info about people)

Snow's entry is very defensive.

FWIW this is where I think I am right now:

Lycanfire
Snow2697

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this is so weird, these 3 are locked in a weird death spiral with each other. strongly think there is at least 1 scum in there. just doesn't make sense otherwise, feels like someone has been caught and scum is lashing out in the group

It will only kill Naerys today.

why?

If not the hood, an option can be to look at Naerys-geraintm (both did not vote scum!Dave, but voted town!NAS) and also at Wisp-Naerys conflict dating back to D1 (Wisp looks more town due to his vote into Ranger on D2).
Penguin voted scum!Ranger, so some details on why he is scum might be helpful.

you do know day 1 i will just vote the biggest thread?
yesterday i had no strong view on who was scum or not, certainly i had nothing to indicate Ranger was scum, hence my not voting.

If I was scum why would I swing the momentum back to execute Ranger when it seemed that momentum may have begun picking up elsewhere?

what momentum elsewhere? it was clear Ranger was going yesterday from early on, there was at least 1 scum on their wagon if not both.

It is considering a Mass Claim at this point. We have had 2 nights of actions, it wonders if a third benefits us over forcing claims.

It would like to do this in a Popcorn styling.

i think i am in favour of this, feels like some good claims will trap scum with nowhere else to go. ranger already got done with a bad claim so i dont think scum are good at coming up with good claims between them

We will see. It is most amused you believe you get to dictate today.

Snow is off the table.

I'm not stating I get to dictate the day. In fact I said I'm willing to go outside the hood because I may be tunnelled, I'm just voting my biggest scumread right now.

your snap vote post 1 today certainly gave the mpression you wanted to

i think though VOTE: naerys. the way they jumped off Ranger straight after the claim and gave the impression they did not want to go in thehood. also things like this

Any further thoughts on this yet?

Not fond of the way Titus and gera switched to dave tbh
also kinda dont like Penguin´s position on Wisp, but also i dont like Wisp himself and the way he "suspects" me

On the other side i think dave could be town, he doesnt really feel different from his previous towny games. So i think looking into those, who think dave could be scum is warranted

this post is poo

Like why? This is no different to Psyche jusylt wanting to run me up because my posting style and competence doesn't match up with what they expect

[geraintm]

can we change topics?
why do you think geraintm is scum?
i'll assume it's not because my case on him is so good

non-ranger voter. no charisma. checks the box of teammate that didn't save ranger when ranger wanted to live. attitude seems fakeable, poe is way too large. went contrarian on our asses yesterday in the same vein as random nurse. didn't like how he made you v me yesterday a binary foregone conclusion. I think ranger could have tried to fake sort him better, but she obviously didn't care because they were partners. he also randomly shifted multiple spots for no reason at all in her tierlists.

If I was partnered with ranger, wouldn't I have been more active in trying to save them? I would have done something to Tey and keep them around rather than dithering. I'm obvious as scum because I panic and vote quickly and often to further my aims, but yoy are saying I did none of that and so I'm scum?

[Psyche]

gypyx a bit frustrating here. i need more help than "i don't think scum!gera makes this sort of stuff" if im going to see why he's town

[geraintm]

rn's paranoid style seems cleanly town to me

i had some more concrete examples somewhere, but they are mostly just wild thoughts that i keep feeling like a scum wincon would suppress

Nurse doesn't know any better, so hurls paranoid thoughts around everywhere.

I don't know better, so I stay stum and you dislike it. Next game with you I'll throw out names much quicker with little to back it up and you'll like me much mkre

[Psyche]

think you misunderstand or mischaracterize the basis of my position against you, even after ive tried to clarify.

[geraintm]

2.17

Votecount 2.17

Ranger (E-2): Random Nurse, Titus, Oblivion, PenguinPower, Lycanfire
Snow2697 (2): Thomith, Gypyx
PenguinPower (2): KayJayQueue, Hu Tao
Gypyx (2): geraintm, Naerys
Hu Tao (1): Ranger
Thomith (1): Snow2697

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to secure an execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2024-04-07 10:29:00).

Mod Notes: The combined mod ISO is here.

It took me until the 17th vote count to place a vote day 2. I believe ranger had been the leading wagon that entire time, and people have me down as partnered with them?
Like....I'm not great at this but give me some credit in that I would have done something to generate a wagon away from my partner? It just doesn't compute to me. I often go on votes as definitive actions you can mark as players choices, but yoy can look at non votes too

[geraintm]

2.15

Votecount 2.15

Ranger (3): Random Nurse, Titus, Oblivion
Hu Tao (3): Ranger, Naerys, PenguinPower
Snow2697 (2): Thomith, Gypyx
PenguinPower (2): KayJayQueue, Hu Tao
Thomith (1): Snow2697

Not Voting (2): geraintm, Lycanfire

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to secure an execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2024-04-07 10:29:00).

Mod Notes: The combined mod ISO is here.

This would have been a great point for me to decide Hu Toa was scum and push that wagon along and get momentum going, but I didn't.