In post 3349, MagnaofIllusion wrote:So why I think MariaR / Maverick is scum –
Maverick set off early game scumdar for
35. I asked him about this and he never answered but my issue with it is as follows –
Maxous made a real (even if early game) post ascribing scum intent to Iprobably’s play and voted him. Maverick says he likes that post which means if he is Town he thinks it is a reasonable scum-hunting effort. Maverick was RVS voting BBT for not liking his “footy team”.
Why does Maverick not move his vote from RVS shenanigans to an actual scum read (even if early game)? Doesn’t make a ton of sense but it is possible it was from Town.
What amplifies it, for me, is the fact that after I asked him about it at
247 he never responds. He has eight posts after that point and even at
806 acknowledge he has open question before immediately replacing out. The timing of the replace-out makes me think he felt pressure to justify his tunneling on Mollie (who we know was Town) and other questions and decided a replacement halo for his slot might be warranted.
There are several things about Maria’s replace in posting I find suspect also –
1003 and
1007 are altogether too “Hey, I’m so happy to be here and I can’t wait to prove why I’m not scum” AtE style for my tastes.
And the self-vote at
1022 is very suspect given she had a whopping two votes. That’s pulling the plug desperation AtE in the most basic form. If she ends up lynched she has left not trail to her partners. If it does work (and it did work) then she gets a pass for at least a Day or so. It’s completely at odds with her later “Oh, I never said I was in a bad spot” made at
1065. If she didn’t think she was in a bad spot why the self-vote?
1125 – what is the purpose of this post other than to say “I’m going to look scummy but you can’t suspect me it’s how I play”?
I also want to bring attention to the following post she made early Day 2 –
In post 1128, MariaR wrote:I just did and
that's a fair enough and logical reason to sr my slot no problems I just got to fight harder to get it off
the reason why I made that statement is I like saying my emotions on a plate I do it as either alignment but from what I hear a lot of people dislike fluff and LAMIST posts so I can't help it
I’ve bolded the important point – she directly says that I have a fair and logical reason to scum-read her for Maverick’s play.
Fast forward to this later –
In post 2565, MariaR wrote:Yoy have no reason to scumread me and until you say why I will assume you're just saying bs after bs
How easily she forgets that she already has said I had a valid reason to scum-read her for Maverick’s play. Now this was in response to my VCA but the point still stands – she only goes on the attack against me after Farside has made it clear she has an ally in suspecting me. When she replaced in? All “Hey, you are reasonable and I’ll work hard to make you change your mind buddy”. This turn is much more likely to come from scum than Town IMO.
Next we have this –
In post 2153, MariaR wrote:Also why would mafia even kill a 2 shot doctor if it was role cop that doesn't seem very useful with this many people
This is a prime example what looks to me like leveraging of inside knowledge to appear more Town. She as scum knows that Peregrine got a track on Ank that prevented their kill. So when there was “RoleCop” speculation she steps right up and makes this post. Note – she’s the one who spurs Wisdom to consider a Tracker. Given we see later posts where she shows that she has very shallow understanding of balance this looks very much like “information leakage” on her part.
In post 2574, MariaR wrote:The one you should be looking at in this list is Kuro and Basic
Trying to deflect my suspicion of her for how Peregrine treated her slot re:scum reading them by saying “Kuroi (Town) and Basic (makes less sense as a partner to Hebi / Pere / Xk) are where you should look for scum”.
This is laid out as clearly and susinctly as possible. I have gone into plenty of other reason already – her voting patterns are by far the worst in the game and generally her OMGUS attitude towards people suspecting her combined with her multiple buddying attempts (farside, MOHIS) looks like scum.
