Mini 2206 - Deja Vu: Perpetual MELO IV - END!

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Vote Count 4-7

-- Gillman Barracks

Infinity 324

(1): Disaster Cartel

Disaster Cartel

(1): Morning Tweet

Not Voting

(4): SirCakez, notscience, Venus Fly Trap, Infinity 324

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to eliminate.

Deadline: May 30, Noon US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-05-30 09:00:00)

Mod Notes:

- skitter30 head of Venus Fly Trap is v/la until May 18
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[Venus Fly Trap]

hey i'm nominally back online but i haven't read anything and i don't think i'll be able to until after work tomorrow
apologies for my absence

~ skitter

[SirCakez]

this game is fucking haunting my dreams
i hope whoever is scum here is happy

[SirCakez]

I don't think this is true though

I'm pretty sure it was, I'll try to find quotes in a bit

but I think the only one who was like particularly opposed was notsci and even that only came after like.. a while of wanting bulge dead

like put it this way: most of the voters on the bulge wagon probably would still have voted bulge the next day anyway, and those on the NM wagon I think wanted NM more but I don't think there was anyone screaming that bulge was town there

i disagree
no one was saying it was S/S
some people just thought one or the other was scummier
ex; notsci

she's acting here like she's just had this big revelation that "oh my god holy shit, it's VFT/DC!!!" but like... this shouldn't be shocking if her prior post was genuine because that's what she was supposedly already thinking. like the only thing that made her not commit to it was bc she needs to do "due diligence" on the skitt iverson thing, but the "I CAN SEE IT" is just so performative. that's like the most blatant bit where it comes through but the whole post reads in the same way

i completely disagree; tonally I think it makes sense
this seems like grasping at straws to me

like ur buddy is putting in so much effort here! you can do better than that

also this reminds me of posts I've seen scum make before

SCENARIO 1: we bus NM. the next day, we lim bulge. mom leaves. we're in mylo with two town gone and 3 scum gone. we look p good for having bussed NM all the way through and the day probably goes smoothly.

SCENARIO 2: we kill bulge. NM leaves. mom is limmed. we're in mylo with two town gone and 3 scum gone. the game is a horrible fucking shitfest because our correct push on NM is undermined by having jumped off him to vote bulge despite there being exactly no need to.

let me be very clear: unless you think that we couldn't lim bulge the next day in scenario (1) the two worlds are functionally no different in terms of who is alive. the basically ONLY difference is how we're perceived. so do you disagree that bulge would have been very limmable the next day, or do you not? and if you don't, why did ydra vote bulge? just to make this fun game a little bit extra challenging because it was too easy

if NM had been yeeted I think Bulge would have been off the table because he was the counterwagon to scum
I know I wouldn't have voted him after that

[SirCakez]

i just want vftttttt hereeeee
where plant when we need it

[SirCakez]

i get so pumped playing other games and feel good about mafia and then I remember this game exists and it just drains my soul

[Disaster Cartel]

i get so pumped playing other games and feel good about mafia and then I remember this game exists and it just drains my soul

If this ain’t a fucking mood

[Disaster Cartel]

i disagree
no one was saying it was S/S
some people just thought one or the other was scummier
ex; notsci

I’m gonna go back to try and pull quotes tomo but this is not how I remember it at all

[Disaster Cartel]

i completely disagree; tonally I think it makes sense

I don’t get it

If you’ve already been having the thought of “oh hmm X/Y seem teamed” then making a big post with LOTS OF CAPS and also exclamation points!! seems weird to me? Bc that to me is presenting the realisation as a shock/surprise but logically it shouldn’t have been by that point

So idk what you mean by it making sense tonally? Unless you just mean her tone is good whcih, sure, MT has almost universally had good tone whenever I’ve played with her

[Disaster Cartel]

Idk if I’m missing something in what you’re saying there tho cakez

[Disaster Cartel]

also this reminds me of posts I've seen scum make before

*shrug*

[Disaster Cartel]

if NM had been yeeted I think Bulge would have been off the table because he was the counterwagon to scum
I know I wouldn't have voted him after that

But like I don’t think whether you would have voted him matters hugely, no offence

And while I’m not remembering this the same as you, in a sense it’s immaterial to my broader point — Ofer flip NM there, the question is just are we (Dc!scum) likely to come under pressure the next day? I think the answer is nah

While we disagree on the viability of bulge the next day, I think that like, you, iverson, infinity would probably all look less town than us in that scenario so my point that ydra switching vote doesn’t make sense for scum!us still holds

[Disaster Cartel]

Sorry for the spam posting but I’m on mobile and I’m absolutely not trying to format a wallpost response

[Disaster Cartel]

Oh but if Disaster is town i dont think there's any hope for me anymore so there's that

Town loses if we get flipped, this is lylo, which I’m p sure ur aware of

[Disaster Cartel]

SCENARIO 1: we bus NM. the next day, we lim bulge. mom leaves. we're in mylo with two town gone and 3 scum gone. we look p good for having bussed NM all the way through and the day probably goes smoothly.

SCENARIO 2: we kill bulge. NM leaves. mom is limmed. we're in mylo with two town gone and 3 scum gone. the game is a horrible fucking shitfest because our correct push on NM is undermined by having jumped off him to vote bulge despite there being exactly no need to.

let me be very clear: unless you think that we couldn't lim bulge the next day in scenario (1) the two worlds are functionally no different in terms of who is alive. the basically ONLY difference is how we're perceived. so do you disagree that bulge would have been very limmable the next day, or do you not? and if you don't, why did ydra vote bulge? just to make this fun game a little bit extra challenging because it was too easy

This incorrectly assumes that the mom lim was a foregone conclusion from scum's PoV at the time. Bork was TRing her and others were trusting his reasoning.

I mean an additional scum had to go, right? Like inevitably another scum was leaving

Given how fucking brutal this game is and that mom was relatively consensus, I don’t think that’s a wrong assumption to make

[Disaster Cartel]

I have no idea what infinity is doing re: our slot atp

[Disaster Cartel]

I guess trying to have a progression on us? Probably? I suppose it doesn’t matter that much if she’s actually voting us or not given that she can just hammer but like still

Is weird

But it seems pointless to reconsider bc I really don’t see how the team is not MT/infinity given how they’ve played this day phase so far

[Disaster Cartel]

Ydrasse leans against Iverson....

so at this point in the day I dont think pushing Iverson is ever a winning plan. Was there another point in the day though, ill keep reading..

I can’t stay long today but I think this is a very weird thing to have in the middle of a post on why it’s DC/Vft

It’s under the spoiler in the post on why VFT supposedly couldn’t have pushed iverson yesterday which is like dubious altogether and I should have more time to breakdown exactly why tomorrow on laptop but for now

Yeah, weirdpog fam

Ydrasse leaning against iverson should matter exactly 0% of the time if VFT and I are teamed when it comes to whether skitt can push iverson for the win yesterday or not

[Infinity 324]

I mean an additional scum had to go, right? Like inevitably another scum was leaving

Given how fucking brutal this game is and that mom was relatively consensus, I don’t think that’s a wrong assumption to make

Yes but what I'm saying is that scum would much rather safehouse NM than mom because NM will always get limmed later but mom will not necessarily.

[Disaster Cartel]

I mean we all get why right? If VFT and us are teamed it doesn’t matter what our stance is to whether we can vote there

All she needs to do is get two townies on with her (prob kismet and cakez) and for mom to vote there are some point

Even if we’re saying that we’re opposed, if we’re scum with her we can just vote while mom is online or wait for E-1

[Disaster Cartel]

I mean an additional scum had to go, right? Like inevitably another scum was leaving

Given how fucking brutal this game is and that mom was relatively consensus, I don’t think that’s a wrong assumption to make

Yes but what I'm saying is that scum would much rather safehouse NM than mom because NM will always get limmed later but mom will not necessarily.

They were always both gonna die infinity holy shit

The order is not particularly important!!

[Disaster Cartel]

Think about how much easier this lylo is if one of the scum here is replaced by either of mom or NM

To paraphrase our favourite finger snappin boi, it was inevitable

[Disaster Cartel]

Like I feel like you have to understand this

[Disaster Cartel]

The whole way you’re playing today is baffling to me

[Disaster Cartel]

Also, uh