NY 189 - Flower Viewing Festival [~fin~]

Fro99er · Wed Sep 16, 2015 10:00 am

The problem I'm having, is I know if I push a town lynch, I will be the next one to go. And I'm town. So we'll be down two town players.

Spin this as me being scum all you want. I'm town.

Fro99er · Wed Sep 16, 2015 10:01 am

It's not like it's D1 where we don't want to have, but can still afford, two town lynches.

Fro99er · Wed Sep 16, 2015 10:01 am

This is why I am so much better as scum, because I just stick with a read and push it through and people buy it.

Fro99er · Wed Sep 16, 2015 10:04 am

I'm just going to sit back and let a wagon form and hammer the wagon. Don't care if its myself, Dav, Shazam, Bear, or ika.

I've provided enough fodder for people to figure out who voted me and why if I get lynched. My head is too spinning with possibilities about Dav, Shaz, Bear, and ika to be useful right now.

Fro99er · Wed Sep 16, 2015 10:05 am

In post 2978, Davsto wrote:Current lynchpool:
Fro99er
Shazam (seriously we need to get this guy talking)
Bearbert D (still unsure, I guess)

We have the same lynchpool!!!!!

Fro99er · Wed Sep 16, 2015 10:06 am

@Dav - any thoughts on ika?

Fro99er · Wed Sep 16, 2015 10:07 am

In post 2978, Davsto wrote:scum realising that going after me was a bad idea because I have good counterpoints.

not this. Your counterpoints sucked.

I'm just not sure that case on tn was a bus.

Fro99er · Wed Sep 16, 2015 10:13 am

In post 2983, Davsto wrote:ConfBias-ing

I'M NOT FUCKING CONFBIASING

literally every person I have scum read has said I'm confbiasing. How can I be confbiasing on EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU?

Fro99er · Wed Sep 16, 2015 10:24 am

In post 564, Aeronaut wrote:Ok, this jumping around Fro99er is doing is pretty indicative of how i've seen him as town. Like if you need a reference go look at Refraction Mafia, the man changed his mind like fifteen times a minute. Town froggy.

Fro99er · Wed Sep 16, 2015 10:31 am

Explain exactly how it would be brilliant (I'm not disagreeing, I just want your explanation of why brilliant?)

Fro99er · Wed Sep 16, 2015 10:37 am

In post 2799, Shazam wrote:@Axle
You're right, Sakura's not scum with this scumbag. His self-vote didn't deflect much suspicion, so he removed it. The above was a clear confirmation-biased attempt to find anything he could to connect me to tn and Fire. Classic OMGUS flailing.

@Shazam - so who are you proposing is my hypothetical scumbuddy then?

Fro99er · Wed Sep 16, 2015 10:45 am

So ika, bearbert, and Davsto all agree we should lynch Shazam.

That doesn't feel right to me...

too much WIFOM going through my head right now. Something tells me ika and either davsto or Bear is the remaining scum. I don't know.

Fro99er · Wed Sep 16, 2015 11:03 am

wait...I just realized I was wrong about something earlier. Yeah, I think I'm keeping ika in the townbloc.

It's two of Davsto, Shazam, Bear.

Fro99er · Wed Sep 16, 2015 11:04 am

VOTE: Shazam

sheeping Ricastle and ika on this.

Fro99er · Wed Sep 16, 2015 11:07 am

Ricastle - thoughts on Spiffeh? I am reconsidering my townread on him.

Fro99er · Wed Sep 16, 2015 12:03 pm

Ok yeah. This makes me feel good.

I feel like things are starting to clear up

Fro99er · Wed Sep 16, 2015 12:06 pm

Last time Shazam said someone was flailing, that person flipped town (Mario)

Now he says I'm flailing.

I feel good about a Shazam lynch.

Fro99er · Wed Sep 16, 2015 12:06 pm

At the very least, Shazam shouldn't use flailing as a method of scumhunting

Fro99er · Wed Sep 16, 2015 2:25 pm

Why don't you read and form your own opinion? You are just asking for others to influence you and right now I am phoneposting while I walk my dog.

Fro99er · Wed Sep 16, 2015 2:54 pm

In post 3019, Sakura Hana wrote:Sigh...
Imma look at it again.
I just wish ppl would at least point me to where I should be looking because my head spins with all the vote and wagon shifts this DP.

my head spun a lot too

Fro99er · Wed Sep 16, 2015 4:12 pm

Backup mod basassness FTW

Fro99er · Wed Sep 16, 2015 4:39 pm

Inb4 I don't think that's normal (???)

Fro99er · Thu Sep 17, 2015 1:31 am

I'm guessing it was a mistake. GIF has since added Hana's vote.

Fro99er · Thu Sep 17, 2015 1:35 am

I slept on it. I think if we lynch Shazam and Spiffeh we win.

Fro99er · Thu Sep 17, 2015 9:38 am

In post 3036, Spiffeh wrote:Fro99er you literally agreed

What's the difference between agreeing and literally agreeing?

Fro99er · Thu Sep 17, 2015 9:50 am

In post 3041, Bearbert D wrote:That's right, and that person is me.

Actually, it was me, you, and ricastle at separate times.

Fro99er · Thu Sep 17, 2015 9:51 am

Also - Shazam has conveniently disappeared. Not that he's been a beacon of activity, but he's far less active now since he's been suspected.

Fro99er · Thu Sep 17, 2015 9:57 am

eugh...this does not feel like a bus

In post 2101, Shazam wrote:
In post 2100, Firebringer wrote:I am on my phone, so no long post.
Ugh can't believe shirt died.
I went through trouble of reading everything and had shirk as scum >.>

No. This is not for real.
VOTE: Firebringer

Fro99er · Thu Sep 17, 2015 9:58 am

In post 3037, Bearbert D wrote:If I was scum and Shazam town, why wouldn't I hammer him like right now?

This is awful

Fro99er · Thu Sep 17, 2015 9:58 am

In post 3041, Bearbert D wrote:
In post 3040, Davsto wrote:
In post 3039, Fro99er wrote:
In post 3036, Spiffeh wrote:Fro99er you literally agreed

What's the difference between agreeing and literally agreeing?
Using the word "literally" is stronger and stuff.

Also, am I right in seeing that Spiffeh was basically a non-presence until someone said they were suspicious of him?

That's right, and that person is me.

AS is this. Trying to get towncred.

Fro99er · Thu Sep 17, 2015 9:58 am

UNVOTE:

Fro99er · Thu Sep 17, 2015 10:02 am

Actually, it could be a bus...

Fro99er · Thu Sep 17, 2015 10:03 am

Spoiler: every vote of Shazam's

In post 21, Shazam wrote:VOTE: echo echo
I don't like caves.

In post 100, Shazam wrote:
In post 69, Spiffeh wrote:Bold votes probably wasn't a great term but the point still stands!

In post 42, BananaCucho wrote:
In post 38, Spiffeh wrote:VOTE: BananaCucho
Feels the need to respond to every vote, like he's a little insecure about the fact that he's getting votes?

BTW this is technically false since I didn't respond to the broken charmander vote

I have read the thread twice and can't for the life of me figure out what you're referring to here.

VOTE: Spiffeh

If you've read the thread twice, you know that my last post requires more than this from you in response. Don't just ignore my post and say your point stands.

BananaCucho wrote:
In post 86, pisskop wrote:was it a better vote?

why u do it?

Do I really need to explain it more? He scolds us and says "let's play mafia already" and I say "yeah, okay" and "start playing" by voting him

Feels pretty self explanatory I don't get what you don't understand.

Yeah, bad wagon here.
Salamence20 wrote:
In post 87, tn5421 wrote:So are you saying that having any reason whatsoever discludes any vote ever from being rvs, despite the reason being obviously silly?

No, what sala has to say at this point in the game is not important in the slightest.

Actually it does.

Truth.

In post 431, Shazam wrote:At this point, Spiffeh is clearly town to me, because he's genuinely saying defensive things that make no sense. His reaction to everything said about him is so emotional that if he were scum he'd be toning it down. I could explain why his latest posts make no sense, but ultimately I don't think that helps anyone else.

In post 329, Fro99er wrote:
In post 327, AxleGreaser wrote:
I still dont have all the people I am not used to lined up in my head as individuals

In post 8, AxleGreaser wrote:
@People
I have played with before.
Hi.

@people
I have only been stalking (in a not very creepy way)
Hi.

@everyone else?

How come you did not sign up for this game?

Axle plans everything. He claims in post 8 he has read you (by saying everyone else he hasn't read didn't sign up for the game). Now he claims in post 327 he doesn't have everyone lined up????????????

AXLE IS INFORMED, PEOPLE. He read ups on things!!! For him to play dumb here is :/

Axle is scum, y'all. He's trying to appease the masses for scum reading him early on here...

In post 327, AxleGreaser wrote:The people who piled on me early, did so with about the right amount of .... "Oh look there is a bonfire over here anyone want to jump on?".

He also knows his "if frogger was town" read on me is crap.

In post 327, AxleGreaser wrote:if Frog was town, and he felt town, he was smoking as he went by me.

honestly, I'd rather town sort me and axle today and call it a day.

VOTE: Axle

This looks like all spin to me. You act so sure that you'd like to 1v1 this guy, but the entirety of your case against him is putting what he says in whatever light you feel is best. I would have taken the first 2 quotes to mean nothing. I don't know what your point about him being "informed" is. The third quote is a pretty decent analysis of his wagon. I can't say I fully understand the fourth post, but "if frogger was town" is not a read on you, so saying he knows that's crap is rather ludicrous. In short, I think you've made a bad case, but you're acting like it's a good case because you want to lynch him for other reasons.

VOTE: Fro99er

In post 1084, Shazam wrote:Ok, so as far as wagons, the IaI wagon still sucks, though with the contradiction Spiffeh caught, IaI has been shown at the very least to be incapable of thinking abstractly. Apparently some things are towntells only when they have to do with him.

The Davsto wagon always sucked, I have no idea why anyone voted him in the first place, and his claim seemed genuine and came with a pro-town attitude.

The Mario wagon is pretty decent, he's active lurking while pretending not to be active lurking. And then when he's called on something he did say, he claims it wasn't serious. Since my vote's not really doing anything,
VOTE: Mario

In post 1509, Shazam wrote:
In post 1422, tn5421 wrote:Basically, in order from most to least suspicious on that mario wagon is Salamence, Ricastle, Spiffeh, pisskop, shiro. Shazam & Shiro are good possibilities but I don't really have a good read on either of them.

This is after the nearly confirmed vig claim from Salamence. I also don't think Ricastle or Spiffeh is scum. Since the three "most suspicious" people on the wagon are my townreads, I prefer tn to the other wagons right now. IaI is still town.

In post 1494, Spiffeh wrote:Seriously what reason does tn have to jump from Mario to Salamence, who obviously was not getting lynched, other than to distance himself from the mislynch wagon?

This is actually a good point.

VOTE: tn5421

In post 1501, Echo Echo wrote:
In post 1499, Salamence20 wrote:VOTE: TN

Any objections to an Areo shot?

I object. Please shoot Davesto.

After this post, I'd prefer if he shot you. Davsto did the same thing Slandaar and I did, except he did it earlier (joined the Mario wagon without having been on the IaI wagon). In my eyes, this makes him town because he genuinely believed Mario was scum, and didn't believe IaI was scum, which to me looks like an evidence-based vote pattern.

In post 2101, Shazam wrote:
In post 2100, Firebringer wrote:I am on my phone, so no long post.
Ugh can't believe shirt died.
I went through trouble of reading everything and had shirk as scum >.>

No. This is not for real.
VOTE: Firebringer

In post 2379, Shazam wrote:
In post 2316, Fro99er wrote:
In post 2313, Shazam wrote:Seriously? You will do anything to say Davsto is scum.

And you'll do anything to say I'm scum. So we're even.

2313 said nothing about you being scum or about scumtells from you at all. Far too defensive.

VOTE: Fro99er

In post 2318, Fro99er wrote:
In post 2313, Shazam wrote:you appear to be outright admitting that you have no intention of reading Davsto objectively.

So why would I admit that if I was scum? Serious question. Think about that for a second.

Why are you pointing this out yourself? Serious question. Think about that for a second.

As soon as you say that putting things a certain way makes you town, you reveal that you could have done it just to towntell as scum.

In post 2761, Shazam wrote:
In post 2747, Bearbert D wrote:

2740's first line is fake as fuck. Davsto+ Shazam? Would explain that weird ass town read from Shazam onto Davsto that I don't think he explained

I did explain it. At least twice iirc. Davsto and me make no sense as a team. Why would I give said "weird ass town read" if I was his partner? That would be colossally stupid. I have not stated an unconfirmed townread on any other player as strongly as I have with Davsto.

VOTE: Fro99er
Could be playing to his wincon as scum, because he might be thinking he can get people off him by self-voting. Can't really be playing to his wincon as town, since him flipping town would not make me scum in any way, but that's why he's willing to kill himself.

Fro99er · Thu Sep 17, 2015 10:24 am

In post 3052, Bearbert D wrote:That kind of blows a hole in the Shazam+ Spiffeh theory no, frogger? I had forgotten Shazam said the thing about Spiffeh not making sense in 431. My opinion now would be that doesn't look like partnership. But what do you think, frogger?

I agree...I think.

Fro99er · Thu Sep 17, 2015 10:25 am

Shazam quickly townread Spiffeh after the vote, however.

Fro99er · Thu Sep 17, 2015 5:23 pm

In post 3064, Echo Echo wrote:
In post 3035, Fro99er wrote:I slept on it. I think if we lynch Shazam and Spiffeh we win.

Definitely not.

no shit.

I came to realize that if you read further

Fro99er · Thu Sep 17, 2015 5:51 pm

I've seen scum delay hammering many times.

Fro99er · Thu Sep 17, 2015 6:09 pm

VOTE: Bearbert

Fro99er · Fri Sep 18, 2015 1:49 am

In post 3060, Spiffeh wrote:I'd actually prefer a Dav lynch over a Bear one now after his really scummy play this day but I am willing to compromise.

Then come compromise!

Fro99er · Fri Sep 18, 2015 1:57 am

In post 3088, Bearbert D wrote:Shazsm comes, claims he's obv inno and does nothing aftrr that. How can anybody townread him?

Horse hockey.

You know why I drafted to doubt Shazam scum, and it's not what you mention above. You are intentionally being "oblivious", scumbag.

Fro99er · Fri Sep 18, 2015 1:59 am

In post 3095, Fro99er wrote:
In post 3088, Bearbert D wrote:Shazsm comes, claims he's obv inno and does nothing aftrr that. How can anybody townread him?

Horse hockey.

You know why I drafted to doubt Shazam scum, and it's not what you mention above. You are intentionally being "oblivious", scumbag.

EBWOP drafted = started

Fro99er · Fri Sep 18, 2015 4:31 am

In post 3098, Bearbert D wrote:I'm more amazed that frogget wasn't actually on tn's wagon after all this when tn actually got lynched

I was V/LA...that's why

Fro99er · Fri Sep 18, 2015 4:37 am

In post 3111, Bearbert D wrote:I'll have a look at those other games(yes, I'm postponing yet again)

If you want to look at my other games, go look at refraction mafia, which Axle is conveniently leaving out. Even Aero commented earlier I'm playing the exact same way there, changing my mind every 15 minutes.

In post 564, Aeronaut wrote:Ok, this jumping around Fro99er is doing is pretty indicative of how i've seen him as town. Like if you need a reference go look at Refraction Mafia, the man changed his mind like fifteen times a minute. Town froggy.

Fro99er · Fri Sep 18, 2015 4:41 am

I've already quoted that aero quote 3 times now. For as thorough as you seem to be, how could you not have read that?

Fro99er · Fri Sep 18, 2015 4:42 am

In post 3120, Fro99er wrote:I've already quoted that aero quote 3 times now. For as thorough as you seem to be, how could you not have read that?

Oh I know! Confirmation bias.

Fro99er · Fri Sep 18, 2015 5:17 am

In post 3123, Davsto wrote:
In post 3118, Fro99er wrote:
In post 3111, Bearbert D wrote:I'll have a look at those other games(yes, I'm postponing yet again)

If you want to look at my other games, go look at refraction mafia, which Axle is conveniently leaving out. Even Aero commented earlier I'm playing the exact same way there, changing my mind every 15 minutes.

In post 564, Aeronaut wrote:Ok, this jumping around Fro99er is doing is pretty indicative of how i've seen him as town. Like if you need a reference go look at Refraction Mafia, the man changed his mind like fifteen times a minute. Town froggy.

Didn't Aero flip scum?

Yes, it doesn't mean he didn't make a valid point

Fro99er · Fri Sep 18, 2015 5:19 am

I don't need to notice ... I'm voting Bearbert

Fro99er · Fri Sep 18, 2015 9:10 am

Fro99er · Fri Sep 18, 2015 2:11 pm

Fro99er · Fri Sep 18, 2015 2:12 pm

In post 3131, Ricastle wrote:Eh, you know what.

VOTE: Fro99er

Dumbass

Fro99er · Fri Sep 18, 2015 2:13 pm

Sorry that was too far.

I'm not scum and you know it

Fro99er · Fri Sep 18, 2015 2:13 pm

But do me a solid and vote Bearbert and Spiffeh when I'm lynched

VOTE: Frogger

Fro99er · Fri Sep 18, 2015 2:14 pm

I'm tired of this game

Fro99er · Fri Sep 18, 2015 2:19 pm

Also, do me a solid and don't listen to Axle after I'm dead.

He's not so good at this

I will provide a final reads list here

Town:
Frogger - duh
Ricastle- Mason
Sakura - JOAT
Echo/ika - one of these two is the other Mason but scum can go try to figure it out
Axle - idiotic town
Davsto - probtown ?
Shazam - IDK
Spiffeh - probscum?
Bearbert - scumbag

If echo is the Mason, ika moves down around the Davsto/Shazam area. If ika is the Mason, echo is still town

Fro99er · Fri Sep 18, 2015 2:23 pm

Also, I'm assuming the Mason is a backup and became Mason after banana flipped

Fro99er · Fri Sep 18, 2015 2:45 pm

Also, I never do reads lists. So consider yourselves lucky

Fro99er · Fri Sep 18, 2015 2:47 pm

Actually just lunch axle because it would be funny even though he's probably town.

Town don't deserve to win this.

Fro99er · Fri Sep 18, 2015 2:47 pm

(Sarcasm...mostly, lynch Bearbert for reals)

Fro99er · Fri Sep 18, 2015 4:08 pm

Doopadoo

Fro99er · Fri Sep 18, 2015 4:08 pm

Wonder how long it takes to get me hammered

Fro99er · Fri Sep 18, 2015 7:00 pm

In post 3148, AxleGreaser wrote:Try not getting a scum PM next time and see if that helps.

Try not voting town next time (unless you are scum)

Fro99er · Fri Sep 18, 2015 7:02 pm

VOTE: Bearbert

Fro99er · Fri Sep 18, 2015 7:06 pm

In post 3149, Sakura Hana wrote:
Unvote
Vote: frogger

Any reason in particular?

Fro99er · Fri Sep 18, 2015 7:27 pm

So, no legitimate reason for actually thinking I'm scum. Got it

Fro99er · Fri Sep 18, 2015 7:29 pm

In post 3153, Sakura Hana wrote:
2) Apparently a lot of info is dependant on your flip.

What info?

Fro99er · Fri Sep 18, 2015 7:33 pm

Ok smart ass.

Is rather live, but Rivastle and Axle are so inept it doesn't really matter in the end I guess

Fro99er · Sat Sep 19, 2015 1:59 am

In post 3178, Bearbert D wrote:Yeah, I said he's town, but apparently he's good as scum+ defensive vote+ this inconsistency

Invonsistency means I'm town.

Did you even read the linked games?

Fro99er · Sat Sep 19, 2015 2:19 am

In post 3171, Echo Echo wrote:
In post 3162, Ricastle wrote:Fro99er, I've seen you as scum. You're pretty damn good. How in any way does your selfmeta make you obvtown?

I'm also prepared to hammer Bearbert, if necessary.

Absolutely correct.

However, Bearbert is pretty good at playing scum as well. I've seen him on Westeros.

I don't know about pisskop, he probably sucks, so he's the missing link for us to hunt with if Bearbert really is scum.

Ricastle, first I know you've seen me as scum. Just compare my game there to here...(also I appreciate the respect for my scum game)

And in BEES which echo is referring to I basically strategies my whole game around framing lalalalalalallllllallalalalalallaDucks (especially after the mod ruined our first strategy).

I've just been too all over the place here to have a strategy. Unless you think my strategy includes getting aero to mention my all-over-the-placeness is town because I'm buddies with him. I can assure you that's not the case. It's too hard to fake.

Axle keeps referring to my first ever game on site, which was my second game of mafia ever. OF COURSE I'm going to play differently than my first ever time. Also, axle has a different perspective this time because he's likely town here and he was scum there.

I'l seriously want you guys to consider Bearbert, spiff, Shazam, and dav when I'm dead in that order. And if Ika's not the other Mason then him too somewhere near Shazam.

Fro99er · Sat Sep 19, 2015 2:20 am

Pedit: was just andwering

Fro99er · Sat Sep 19, 2015 2:25 am

I actually try to figure the game out as town, which I'm doing here. I'm digging up nuggets and quotes so that when I'm dead you can try to use those to solve the game.

I'm actively NOT answering Axle's questions now because earlier he claimed I was ignoring them when all that happened was I didn't know what his question was. He never explained it in plain English until like the eighth time I asked, instead he sent me on a wild goose chase via links and I clicked on the links and never found the original question until he finally spelled it out in plain English.

So if you want to hold that against me as being scum than whatever. I'm town. Axle next time be more fucking clear. It'll help town more.

Fro99er · Sat Sep 19, 2015 2:27 am

And for when I'm dead, don't lynch Axle. I'd love to see him lynched because I'm annoyed with him, but that would likely go against my win con as town if I pushed for his lynch.

Fro99er · Sat Sep 19, 2015 2:32 am

Also, I'd almost rather die for the good of the town because of we lynch Bearbert and he somehow flips town, I know I'm going to have to go through another day of this BS because I'll be the suspect once again.

I'm VT. I was trying really hard to obvtown to be the NK instead of our masons and gunsmiths getting NK'd but it backfired. If Aero was alive he'd have no way of pushing my mislynch because he knows this is 100% my town game.

Fro99er · Sat Sep 19, 2015 2:33 am

Apparently I'm so good at scum people are too worried now. I'd rather suck as scum because I like playing town more.

Fro99er · Sat Sep 19, 2015 2:35 am

In post 3176, Bearbert D wrote:But holy shit, I'vs got one question. Why the fuck do you think you played badly, frogger, when you caught both aeronaut and tn?

Because I'm creating such a mess today.

Fro99er · Sat Sep 19, 2015 2:37 am

If Bearbert flips town Shazam seems pretty sus knowing I'll be the next mislynch. L-1 knowing Ricastle will hammer knowing the next lynch is lined up...

I'll probably be the next lynch though if Bear flips town and we'll lose.

Fro99er · Sat Sep 19, 2015 2:45 am

In post 3192, Fro99er wrote:
In post 3176, Bearbert D wrote:But holy shit, I'vs got one question. Why the fuck do you think you played badly, frogger, when you caught both aeronaut and tn?

Because I'm creating such a mess today.

And because I didn't draw the NK

Fro99er · Sat Sep 19, 2015 2:46 am

In post 3192, Fro99er wrote:
In post 3176, Bearbert D wrote:But holy shit, I'vs got one question. Why the fuck do you think you played badly, frogger, when you caught both aeronaut and tn?

Because I'm creating such a mess today.

And because I didn't draw the NK

Fro99er · Sat Sep 19, 2015 2:57 am

There's no way Bear is my hypothetical scumbuddy dude. If he flips town, how does that make me town?

I read his flip to me being town from scum reading me earlier as scum motivated by him since he knew I would be under fire today and it would be a good way to get towncred by letting everyone else push through my mislynch.

Fro99er · Sat Sep 19, 2015 3:01 am

In post 3196, Shazam wrote:But if he flipped scum and then you flipped town, and I was pushing your wagon for no good reason, wouldn't it be obvious to everyone that I was scum? That's not going to happen because I'm not scum, but if it did I would think you'd be happy to make that trade.

his flip isn't going to change my role PM. I'm town so if he flips town, you are my suspect and if he flips scum I'm still town. If you drive through my mislynch tomorrow after I get Bearbert lynched here, you're either scum or anti-town thinking I'm somehow scum who bussed my whole team if Fire's scumslip is right.

Fro99er · Sat Sep 19, 2015 3:02 am

In post 3201, Bearbert D wrote:If this town doesn't lynch Shazam tomorrow, it deserves to lose the game right there and then

If you flip town, I agree

Fro99er · Sat Sep 19, 2015 3:06 am

its pretty clear at this point one of Bear or Shaz is scum.

Bear could be doing this as survival but then Bear is the obvious lynch tomorrow if Shaz flips town. If Bear flips town Shaz is the obv lynch tomorrow in my mind. So yeah, we've got a 1 for 1 it feels like.

Fro99er · Sat Sep 19, 2015 3:09 am

Hey man, if you go down as town, you have my word I'm vote parking on Shaz tomorrow.

At this point if I flip off you and Shaz flips town it'll be even more "evidence" that I'm your "buddy"

Fro99er · Sat Sep 19, 2015 7:02 am

In post 3216, AxleGreaser wrote:
In post 3187, Fro99er wrote:He never explained it in plain English until like the eighth time I asked

bullshit

Not bullshit

Fro99er · Sat Sep 19, 2015 7:03 am

In post 3225, Sakura Hana wrote:For the record i find self-meta defense scummy, because if you acknowledge your own meta, then you're capable of faking it, and why would you bring your own meta in the first place if not for try to deflect suspicion?
I don't think bearbert is scum based on Axle bringing up that fire was all over pisskop yesterday, so can we lynch frogger pls?

That's fine. I self meta every game. Go read up on my meta of self meta

Fro99er · Sat Sep 19, 2015 7:06 am

Self meta in Ori - town:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p6957141

Fro99er · Sat Sep 19, 2015 7:07 am

In post 3225, Sakura Hana wrote:For the record i find self-meta defense scummy, because if you acknowledge your own meta, then you're capable of faking it, and why would you bring your own meta in the first place if not for try to deflect suspicion?
I don't think bearbert is scum based on Axle bringing up that fire was all over pisskop yesterday, so can we lynch frogger pls?

I'm actually not capable of faking my meta. It's too far apart at this point in time

Fro99er · Sat Sep 19, 2015 7:11 am

If you read, you'd figure it out. Go read refraction and BEES. That's my town and scum meta respectively to a T (both completed games in little Italy)

But I figure you probably won't read because you are lazy and will confbias

Fro99er · Sat Sep 19, 2015 7:12 am

Anyway. Sakura has already made her decision so I'm not gonna fight it anymore

Fro99er · Sat Sep 19, 2015 7:13 am

In post 3233, Fro99er wrote:If you read, you'd figure it out. Go read refraction and BEES. That's my town and scum meta respectively to a T (both completed games in little Italy)

But I figure you probably won't read because you are lazy and will confbias

Figure out which one I was more focused in. That's my scum meta. I've been all over the place here.

META PING

Fro99er · Sat Sep 19, 2015 7:17 am

In post 2311, Fro99er wrote:@Axle - I have no idea what question you are asking. You keep sending me on a wild goose chase. What is your question. Do not send me a link.

Not bullshit

Fro99er · Sat Sep 19, 2015 7:26 am

In post 3217, Ricastle wrote:Almost everyone looks like a good bet for scum at this point...priority on Shazam, Echo & Spiffeh.

Interesting...

Fro99er · Sat Sep 19, 2015 7:27 am

ika please participate more

Fro99er · Sun Sep 20, 2015 9:33 am

VOTE: shazam

Fro99er · Sun Sep 20, 2015 10:26 am

Didn't you say if Bearbert flipped town that made me more likely town?

Fro99er · Sun Sep 20, 2015 10:26 am

In post 3196, Shazam wrote:Finally, why on earth would you get lynched next if Bear flipped town? I would be very much against your lynch if he flipped town.

In post 3256, Shazam wrote:VOTE: Fro99er

Fro99er · Sun Sep 20, 2015 10:26 am

Fucking lies

Fro99er · Sun Sep 20, 2015 10:27 am

In post 3258, Fro99er wrote:
In post 3196, Shazam wrote:Finally, why on earth would you get lynched next if Bear flipped town? I would be very much against your lynch if he flipped town.

In post 3256, Shazam wrote:VOTE: Fro99er

FOR EMPHASIS

Fro99er · Sun Sep 20, 2015 10:34 am

In post 3263, Spiffeh wrote:What does anger at Davsto have ANYTHING to do with your feelings about Fro99er?

LOL I know right!

Fro99er · Sun Sep 20, 2015 1:00 pm

In post 1297, pieguyn wrote:
MarioManiac4
(10) - Davsto,
Slandaar
,
Shiro
,
Sakura Hana
,
BananaCucho
, Shazam,
Salamence20
,
Ricastle
, Spiffeh,
pisskop

We need to lynch in here...more VCA later after I walk the dog.

Fro99er · Sun Sep 20, 2015 5:32 pm

In post 2104, Firebringer wrote:Fires Read List [Trade Mark]
Pisskop-Scum, his lack of most content, his buddying of sala. Not to mention he contributes little to none to discussion, his argument on Aeronaut is hilarious when you look at what he has contributed. Its almost all fluff, Flubbernugget was fluff posting almost. Look at Pisskop though, how is he town?

Spiffeh-Scum, where do I start? Okay, looks to jump on almost every fricking wagon, he jumps on almost anyone I am personally town reading, this guy derails all train. Then comes next few days he wants town cred for his actions? What?

Shiro-Scum, sheeps everything. Offers little to no contributions to the game. Everything else is fluff and is actually worse than Pisskop.

Town:
Salamence-Pretty much confirmed.
Axxle-I agree with everything he has said, liked his intro, definitely town player.
Sakura-Contributes quite a bit, I like what I am seeing from her.
Shazam-Definitely town. I agreed again with most what this guy was saying, his intro seemed try hard, but I think that’s just his style.

Null-
Davsto-He is eh
Fro99er-I was sure he was scum in early stages, less sure now.
Ricastle-Not much to go on.
Ika-Ehhh

VOTE: Pisskop

Why isn't echo in this read list????????

Fro99er · Sun Sep 20, 2015 5:45 pm

UNVOTE:

Fro99er · Mon Sep 21, 2015 2:34 am

In post 3315, Shazam wrote:@Axle
I'm not going to talk about that subject anymore because it's a distraction. If you disagree about the association between Bearbert and Fro99er, you can vote Fro99er. I'm not going to, today. There is at least one other scum out there even if he is somehow scum. If you think I have irrationally ABANDONED a good case against someone, that should make you think I'm town, so questioning me incessantly about it isn't going to get you anywhere.

VOTE: ika

I believe Echo's claim, since I believe there is a third mason, and nobody is counter-claiming. By PoE, it must be the lurker, which is the only way to really decide on a lurker. Admittedly, it could be Axle, but his posts seem too town-motivated. He's equally giving everybody crap.

I agree...I wasn't sure if it was ika or echo. If it's ika, he needs to get in here and cc pronto. I thought it might be ika given Ricastles parting reads which included echo. Some weird gambit by Ricastle I guess...

Fro99er · Mon Sep 21, 2015 2:35 am

In post 3315, Shazam wrote:I'm not going to talk about that subject anymore because it's a distraction. If you disagree about the association between Bearbert and Fro99er, you can vote Fro99er. I'm not going to, today. There is at least one other scum out there even if he is somehow scum. If you think I have irrationally ABANDONED a good case against someone, that should make you think I'm town, so questioning me incessantly about it isn't going to get you anywhere.

THANK YOU.

I'm so tired of axle's relentless questioning that typically leads nowhere.

Fro99er · Mon Sep 21, 2015 3:17 am

In post 3320, AxleGreaser wrote:your VCA?

not while I'm at work.

Fro99er · Mon Sep 21, 2015 3:18 am

In post 3325, Fro99er wrote:
In post 3320, AxleGreaser wrote:your VCA?

not while I'm at work.

also not during NFL

Fro99er · Mon Sep 21, 2015 3:18 am

In post 3326, Fro99er wrote:
In post 3325, Fro99er wrote:
In post 3320, AxleGreaser wrote:your VCA?

not while I'm at work.

also not during NFL

Priorities...this game isn't one of them.

Fro99er · Mon Sep 21, 2015 3:55 am

In post 3329, AxleGreaser wrote:You walk dogs for a living?

Piss off

Fro99er · Mon Sep 21, 2015 3:56 am

mod replace me. I'm not dealing with this ass

Fro99er · Mon Sep 21, 2015 3:56 am

Also - I'm town. Lynch within echo's pool and town wins.

Or lynch Axle for the lols. I don't care.

Fro99er · Mon Sep 21, 2015 4:34 am

No, I walked the dog...then chatted with my wife (my wife is top priority, not mafia) and by the time our chat finished NFL sunday night football started. After NFL, I went to bed (I think I might have made a phone post or two). Don't remember. Don't care.

I'd rather you leave stuff about what I do for a living out of this thread please. It's a) factually wrong, and b) insulting