Micro 725: Nomination Mafia | Game Over!

[CommKnight]

VOTE: Chumley

The deadline is approaching and now I'm beginning to wonder if he's the one of us 3 and it is a 1/1 split. Let me say my case here on him.

- Alchemist pointed out the deadline (seriously, it feels like we got more time, but it's only just over 2 days away!!!).
- Vedith (I hate to say it since I don't really put faith in his reads what so ever) has a point. I get this may be a 3-town pool, but Chumley should be in here more talking in what would be our last day with the 3 of us alive. Going into tomorrow we need a clear consensus and right now he is dragging this out to the deadline by not interacting with what's going on right now. (Though you could say the same for rb).
- His sudden push on Alchemist. Other than my paranoia, Alchemist has been and will probably always be (for this game at least) my strongest TR. If it weren't for the fact that I TR at least 1 scum in every game I'm in, the paranoia would not be there and I would not be willing to lynch Alchemist even to test it out. But Chumley is willing to lynch him easily.
- My early-game case on Chumley wasn't fool-proof but now thinking about it, my early-game reads are usually on-point and it's when I second-guess myself that I end up letting scum slip by.

@Chumley, if you're town, then I think the 2 scum IS in fact in rb/Vedith/Aldu. However, this needs to be sorted now with deadline approaching and you not being in here communicating with all of us.

Fastposted a few times.

@Alchemist. I am having a problem with how willing Chumley is in lynching you in the first place. To him it was a lot easier to pick you out of us 2 because if he pushed me there would've been questions raised on why.

[Vedith]

I'll give both people I want to respond to answer. But I actually agree here. Comm and Alch are town here.
Chumley might be scum, if not we only lynch in me(not me)/rb/ald.

If Chumley is scum, then I think Ald will be too for the fact of saying he will vote Alch and ignoring Chumley.

[CommKnight]

I'll give both people I want to respond to answer. But I actually agree here. Comm and Alch are town here.
Chumley might be scum, if not we only lynch in me(not me)/rb/ald.

If Chumley is scum, then I think Ald will be too for the fact of saying he will vote Alch and ignoring Chumley.

I disagree. If Chumley is scum, I'd think rb would be. I don't think Ald would that blantantly ignore his scum partner. If Chumley is town, Aldu would be higher on the list. But if he's scum, Aldu would be lower on the list for potential scum.

[Vedith]

Why not?
Lynch Alch - Flips town
Pushes for me or rb to be lynched - flips town

Scum win.

[Vedith]

It's almost 7am though. I'm going to bed.
It's a shame this game didn't move tonight as Saturday's are my active days.

[CommKnight]

My work schedule changes each week so I don't really have a concept of "weekend" anymore.

But I guess I can see it, either way there's a lot of ifs and buts that I see that could potentially fuck us if we're wrong about 1-2 things. I mean for scum to win, they basically NEED the mislynch today and mislynch tomorrow. If they were sure they had the mislynch today, they'd just need that one wrong lynch tomorrow to win this against us.

[rb]

Bad vote

Chumley is town

[Draynth]

Day 2, Votecount 6

Alchemist21 (1):

rb

CommKnight (1):

Vedith

Chumley (1):

CommKnight

Not Voting (3):

Alduskkel, Alchemist21, Chumley

You may only vote for players in the above lynch pool .
With 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2017-07-25 12:30:00)

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*If I ever make a mistake in a VC please don't hesitate to draw my attention to it either in game or via pm.

[Vedith]

VOTE: Chumley

Why rb?

[Chumley]

What do you think of the other 3 right now?

CommKnight just strikes me as being genuine and consistent in what would appear to be his playstyle. You don't strike me as being obviously scummy but you do come off at times like you're trying extra hard to maintain your townie appearance and so you give me some mild unease.

Just gonna drop this because apparently, people have forgotten my paranoia that Alch might be scum playing helpful town

[Vedith]

You see how easy a town block can fade when pressure is applied?
What did you get from my games posted, Chumley.

[Chumley]

Bad vote

Chumley is town

Yeah but if this is an all town lynch pool I'd rather die here than lose Alch and CK. Alch is clearly a more experienced player than me and CommKnight's meta knowledge is going to be paramount to solving the Vedith issue tomorrow. If either of them flips scum they deserve the win because their performance has been amazing.

[Vedith]

So we're agreed. We lynch you.

[Chumley]

You see how easy a town block can fade when pressure is applied?
What did you get from my games posted, Chumley.

That you have a playstyle that attempts to appear null at all times so when you flip scum people will struggle to find you from a meta standpoint. The strat works. I know it does because that used to be my playstyle but in the long run, it weakens your town game just for sake of boosting your scum game and depending on what site you're playing on it can lead to a cycle of you being mislynched and policy lynched as town for "low effort"

[Vedith]

I get lynched a lot more as Scum than town.
That's because as Scum I avoid the game. I avoid being loud.

So your theory here is wrong.

[Chumley]

I get lynched a lot more as Scum than town.
That's because as Scum I avoid the game. I avoid being loud.

So your theory here is wrong.

You got a spreadsheet or something proving that? And as I mentioned "other sites" places like MafiaUniverse or DGz. There the common impulse would be to remove you early before anyone else because question marks obscure town's ability to pin down scum and if you always look null that always leaves people guessing.

[Vedith]

I find it funny when people go "on my site". This isn't on your site. This is on my site.
You can check any of my Scum games to town games. I am very vocal as town. So if your only argument is meta related... I just stopped it.

Glad we agree to Lynch you though.

[Chumley]

I find it funny when people go "on my site". This isn't on your site. This is on my site.
You can check any of my Scum games to town games. I am very vocal as town. So if your only argument is meta related... I just stopped it.

Typing a bunch of words and actually benefitting town are 2 different things in their entirety

[Vedith]

Sounds great.

[Chumley]

VOTE: Chumley

[Vedith]

I see this as a LAMIST move.
In his eyes he should be more confident in an Alch or comm Scum flip than his own.

I'm happy with this slot being lynched.

[Chumley]

Lynch this moron tomorrow^ Chumley out.

[Vedith]

Cool.

[Chumley]

[Alduskkel]

So if both town reads, why are you willing to lynch Alch over Chumley?

Up until recently no one was talking about lynching Chumley, so it wasn't really worth talking about him.

Vedith, how did you go from Comm = scum (382) to Comm = town (401)?

You see how easy a town block can fade when pressure is applied?

Congratulations, you've somehow wriggled your scumteam out of the hole they dug for themselves.

Pretty sure Chumley is frustrated town.