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Post Post #425 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2023 4:42 pm

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In post 423, Marashu wrote:
In post 422, Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu wrote:
In post 389, Enchant wrote:
In post 387, Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu wrote: So it looks like taking the meta-neighbor role did not guarantee TLich would have a partner in it?
Incorrect.

TLich already had hood during discards and knew who is in it.

If TLich pick Meta Neighbour, hood are not closed.
If Meta Neighbour discarded, this hood closes, but continues to exist.
yeah that's what I said
why would he pick it if no one was in it though?
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if this card is one of the role cards you can pick.
Bolded relevant part of the role - during the role selection stage, the random player will already be in the neighbourhood. They can then discuss whether to keep this role or to close the neighbourhood.
Oh, I thought another player needed to have the role, didn't realize some other person with a random role would be added.
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Post Post #426 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2023 4:45 pm

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In post 424, Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu wrote: Are we claiming things to determine what Marashu is doing?
Seems like a discussion point. I think it would be better. Kokichi disagrees. I feel like it would make people accountable and if we plan things right we could glean more information than otherwise. Drawback is, scum know what roles are in the game.
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Post Post #427 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2023 4:47 pm

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do you know what exactly is revealed by rain/snow? Is it just who acts or does information about their action also get shared?
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Post Post #428 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2023 4:49 pm

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With rain, just who acts.
With snow, just who is the target.

I think if it also gave action (x did y) it would defeat the purpose of the game.
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Post Post #429 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2023 4:52 pm

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Snow would be useful in the case of someone saying "I'm going to target x tonight." If x was not targeted and y dies when nobody claimed they would target y, barring shenanigans we'd have a good place to start looking for scum.
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Post Post #430 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2023 4:54 pm

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And in the case where all targets are accounted for, there'd be a decent chance one of the non-target roles (like miller or neighbour or janitor) have a faction ability. That said, if they show up with rain, there'd be even less doubt.
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Post Post #431 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2023 4:57 pm

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I am debating claiming some or all of my role, as while it may be considered unfun or anti-town I'm still using it.
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Post Post #432 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2023 5:17 pm

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Yeah I'm just gonna fullclaim this
I have to ability to pick a player and a word 3 times per game as a night action, if they post that word the next day they die
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Post Post #433 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2023 5:29 pm

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In post 432, Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu wrote: Yeah I'm just gonna fullclaim this
I have to ability to pick a player and a word 3 times per game as a night action, if they post that word the next day they die
So a weird passive vig of sorts? I mean, that isn't anti-town per se.

Actually would be more anti-town if you didn't claim it, on first thought.
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Post Post #434 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2023 7:39 pm

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In post 400, Gimli wrote: the consistency was brought up by kyoko (who is also scumreading TL)

I'm feeling like herta in that I don't townread TL enough to stop a flip and I'll gladly eliminate him cause it feels like it'll be a constant distraction if town cause I don't think his posts will sway anyone that is currently SRing him
My point was with his method not his reads. As he generates his reads with a certain consistent (illogical) process which means his attempts might be genuine.

Doesn't change that he is so fixated on his illogical connections and reads all the time and it can be motivated by a scum mind set.

so I'm like not super sold on the read either way
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Post Post #435 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2023 7:40 pm

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In post 406, TemporalLich wrote: and is the kind of distancing that only strengthens an associative.
And both of those are 90% role play and the other 10% can't be clarified as distancing at all.
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Post Post #436 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2023 7:43 pm

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In post 417, Marashu wrote: I just realized there is only one multitasking role in the deck and that factions don't have multitasking by default. I think there's a lot to gain from coordinating, and I think it's better to use these early. I'ma claim.
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As fun as fog would be (especially if I got this role as scum!), I'm not choosing that option.

Depending on what roles we have, we should work with Rain or Snow. Rain could help us figure out if there's someone using a faction ability when they claim a passive ability. If we decide on targets, because of a lack of multitasking we can organize that and see who wasn't targeted but should have been (or at least get some information about what's going on there). Either way, as I said, my role works best with coordination and is difficult to disrupt (I'm painting a pretty big target on myself if groupscum is worried about this triggering twice). I want a massclaim so we can organize. If it doesn't happen, then I'll just be picking hail.
I'm not sure what to make of this pick.

Guess in response I have to claim that I have an action that will target someone and will do no harm to them. I would like if it would not fail but it would not make me heart broken if it does, and it getting redirected can also be fine. I won't clarify this further though.
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Post Post #437 (ISO) » Tue Jan 31, 2023 11:55 pm

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Eh. I would rather to choose Hail.

It stops killing altogether.
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Post Post #438 (ISO) » Wed Feb 01, 2023 12:47 am

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+1 to hail
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Post Post #439 (ISO) » Wed Feb 01, 2023 12:47 am

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Enchant is town in this game fwiw
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Post Post #440 (ISO) » Wed Feb 01, 2023 2:15 am

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I can't really tell whether rain or hail would be better. Hail would be good if we have scumteams that can outright kill like Raging Beasts or Negach Syndicate, but Rain is better for dispelling the Dark Creatures and Arsonist Cartel who can hide.

anyway, is a bad defense
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Post Post #441 (ISO) » Wed Feb 01, 2023 2:22 am

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does anyone have meta with TL?
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Post Post #442 (ISO) » Wed Feb 01, 2023 4:00 am

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In post 432, Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu wrote: Yeah I'm just gonna fullclaim this
I have to ability to pick a player and a word 3 times per game as a night action, if they post that word the next day they die
This is a funny role
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post Post #443 (ISO) » Wed Feb 01, 2023 4:06 am

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If mafia has a roleblocker, isn't everyone full claiming bad for us?

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How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post Post #444 (ISO) » Wed Feb 01, 2023 1:06 pm

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Post Post #445 (ISO) » Wed Feb 01, 2023 1:06 pm

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Post Post #446 (ISO) » Wed Feb 01, 2023 1:06 pm

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Post Post #447 (ISO) » Wed Feb 01, 2023 1:06 pm

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Post Post #448 (ISO) » Wed Feb 01, 2023 1:06 pm

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