Mini Normal 2275: Roguelikes - Day 3: Endgame!

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Unofficial VC

Loftwing (3): FancyPants, Lowell, MalcolmTucker
Eiralox (3) : Confidently Wrong, , Irrelephant11, Fredrick A Campbell
Malakittens (1): Loftwing
Confidently Wrong (1): Eiralox
Lowell (1): Cat Scratch Fever
kennyk (1): BlueBloodedToffee
MalcolmTucker (1): Shoshin
BlueBloodedTofee (1): Malakittens
FancyPants (0): kennyk

Not Voting (0):

[Confidently Wrong]

the other 2 scum after seeing the damage Eira has done in thread:


(this is directed at Lowell and Mala)

[Cat Scratch Fever]

I also heavily disagree that the tone is towny. The tone is *annoyed*. That is not inherently towny.

I was referring to the belief they seem to have in themselves that they're right, not so much the annoyance

[Confidently Wrong]

I also heavily disagree that the tone is towny. The tone is *annoyed*. That is not inherently towny.

I was referring to the belief they seem to have in themselves that they're right, not so much the annoyance

That's perhaps the easiest trait to fake as scum when using a shitpush strategy so perhaps not the most useful one

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Eiralox votes no one since I don't know how long ago. Confidently Wrong states who he thinks the scumteam are. Suddenly, Eiralox votes Confidently Wrong and proceeds to say Ei(ralox) Eiself has 12 scumreads. Irrelephant votes Eiralox and Eiralox starts to say that Ei(ralox)'s strongest townread is voting here (implication: I'm townreading you. If you don't unvote me, I may change my mind). Irrelephant doesn't change her vote and what does Ei(ralox) do? Says that Ei(ralox) no longer thinks that Irrelephant is town. Oh, and remember that Ei has 12 null reads?

Post 499

This post (post 499) is outright hypocritical. Says that Confidently Wrong has been "hiding this entire game" when that applies more accurately to Eiself than anyone else. This post also says that "i'm happy to flip either of 'em if that'kll stroke your switches or whatever you use" (implication: What do you want? I'm willing to do whatever you want for you to back off and maybe start townreading me)

That's all I've got time for. Before I go, post 500 says that "alll 12 are still null, nut im feeling way worse about u now then i did back then." (I'm assuming nut is supposed to be but.) Thing to note is that Eiralox still doesn't say that Confidently Wrong is a scumlean.

Also, she said that Lowell and Malakittens are at the bottom of her list. They are also, not scumleans somehow.

[Irrelephant11]

@eira the ly*ch word is no longer allowed onsite. Call it elimination or flip

The post from Eira just before my vote on Eira felt scummy so I voted. I feel okay with leaving it there for now

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Disclaimer regarding my previous post: The first and last paragraph are based on memory alone while the rest are based on a combination of referral to posts 499 and 500 and memory. As memory is not infallible, don't take my account of events as without errors.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Eira, do you have mafia games elsewhere I could peruse, particularly ones where you are of the mafia alignment? You have a striking lack of games on this site and it would help me to compare your mindset in other games to this one.

see above. i dont backread, i dont meta, i dont bullshit. i focus on whats here and now.

I distinctly remember Ei saying that Ei was backreading.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

VOTE: Eiralox

Let's see where it goes

[Cat Scratch Fever]

I think CW is town btw

[Fredrick A Campbell]

A classic tactic for less experienced mafia is to try to mimic towniness by trying to loudly proclaim how unsure they are of people's alignments to LAMIST their way into seeming uninformed. That is what I take away from Eira's play this game so far and when compared to previous times they were town it is a contrast that I doubt would exist if they randed town here.

I ask those that have stated they found Eira's play townie to reconsider with the statements I've presented. At the very least, be open to increasing pressure on the slot to make more solidified stances.

fuck no. i rarely townread anyone without a flip. i prefer to keep things grey. thats it. if that doesnt make u happy 2 bad.

I also remember Ei saying or implying they were townreading Irrelephant.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

post 508 by Eiralox

qwow big brain long words lemme trasblate:


'my case one Eiralox is so gossamer-flimsy and speculative that i can not rightly convince any rational being of it and therefore i sulk and elevate myself above the unthinking sheeple, for how can they not see what I see? how dare they townread Eiralox! The evidence is absolute.'

(presuming one is on)

This "transblat"ion is more accurately describing Eiralox's treatment of Confidently Wrong's case against Eiralox or, to word it the way Eiralox worded it:

qwow big brain long words lemme trasblate:

'my case one" Confidently Wrong's case "is so gossamer-flimsy and speculative that i can not rightly convince any rational being of it and therefore i sulk and elevate myself above the unthinking sheeple, for how can they not see what I see? how dare they" scumread me! "The evidence is absolute.'"

(one is on)

[Fredrick A Campbell]

I hope I made it clear the second quote is my "transblation" of Eiralox's post.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Also would like to point out that Confidently Wrong wasn't (and isn't) scumreading Cat Scratch Fever for townreading Eiralox.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

I'm too cute to be scum :3

[Loftwing]

Before I jump ships again, this time from Mala to Eiralox, let me backread them.

[Loftwing]

VOTE: Eiralox

Dearest Eiralox,

I hope this vote finda you in good health
and in a prosperous position to put wealth
into the pockets of people like me, down on their luck
you see, your readlist is not something to fuck.

I can understand nullreading everyone around you, to keep your options cleared and your paths open. However, it feels rather contradictory when you state that CW and CSF, two users whom's initialisms start with C, are both indistinguishably equal. Please answer the the following charge that I am putting against you now:

You say that CW is null to you, however in your own posts, you say that they feel worse and worse to you as well. How can you read them as being the same as Kenny, a user whom you have greenlit while also keeping them inside the nightmarishly thin grouping of null? This is a charge of nonsensical behaviour, and should this remain unresolved, the punishment shall be death.

Yours Truly,

Daker, Loftwing.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Dear Eiralox,

Speaking on behalf of all the prosecutors and the members of the jury who have either found you or believe you to be guilty of attempted murder against the peaceful inhabitants of Mini Normal 2275: Roguelikes, we would like to announce that we currently find you or believe you to be guilty of attempted murder against the peaceful inhabitants of Mini Normal 2275: Roguelikes. Should seven members of the juror find you guilty and worthy of execution at any time, you will be promptly sentenced to death by the judge and executed for your crime, after which we will find out if you were guilty.

To ensure a fair trial, we would like you to ready yourself as defendant in this trial and admit into evidence anything which you believe is relevant in this court case.

Yours sincerely,
Member of the jury,
Fredrick A Campbell.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Meanwhile, as member of the jury and prosecutor, I'll continue to admit more posts into evidence

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Spoiler: post 512

like when I'm looking at this old newbie game you seem to show much more confidence in stating reads early on, even with less players.

It has been 6 years, I cede so I am not taking this strongly - but when put into contrast with this game and how I interpret your play - it does make me want to confbias it as evidence, if you understand.

i told u i don't give a fuck about games that are not the current one. no further comment, spare urself sum time in da future.

I care because this game is about analyzing patterns and those from previous games matter.

Tell me, why should I find you towny?

i'm not here to convince u about me. im not gonna, ive explained what i am. i'm here to find scum. right now i'm not liking you. i've made my points, tommorow imma expand my reading and take a closer look at elephant, lloyd, loftwing.

i honestly dont care what you think about me. quote old games all u like ill never respond. if others wanna use shite that aint happenin right now as data fonts theyre free to do so. just dont waste my time with it.

I hope you are aware that if you decide to respond to us like this, we will proceed to give you a default judgement, which, as I've previously established, is the death penalty.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

By the way, my current case against you isn't using old games.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Fredrick A Campbell's Fourth Unofficial Votecount
Continued from Cat Scratch Fever's Votecount

Eiralox (5): Confidently Wrong, Irrelephant11, Fredrick A Campbell, Cat Scratch Fever, Loftwing
Loftwing (3): FancyPants, Lowell, MalcolmTucker
Malakittens (2):
Confidently Wrong (1): Eiralox
kennyk (1): BlueBloodedToffee
MalcolmTucker (1): Shoshin
BlueBloodedTofee (1): Malakittens
FancyPants (1): kennyk
Lowell (0):
Shoshin (0):
Fredrick A Campbell (0):
Cat Scratch Fever (0):
Irrelephant11 (0):

Not Voting (0):

[Fredrick A Campbell]

I remember someone asking why would you care if the person you want executed gets executed early. This is because I don't want the person executed yet and would prefer that it happens 48 hours before the deadline arrives.

Take this as a warning. If anyone gets executed earlier than 48 hours before the deadline, I will go after the culprits.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Fredrick A Campbell's Fourth Unofficial Votecount
Continued from Cat Scratch Fever's Votecount

Eiralox (5): Confidently Wrong, Irrelephant11, Fredrick A Campbell, Cat Scratch Fever, Loftwing
Loftwing (3): FancyPants, Lowell, MalcolmTucker
Malakittens (2):
Confidently Wrong (1): Eiralox
kennyk (1): BlueBloodedToffee
MalcolmTucker (1): Shoshin
BlueBloodedTofee (1): Malakittens
FancyPants (1): kennyk
Lowell (0):
Shoshin (0):
Fredrick A Campbell (0):
Cat Scratch Fever (0):
Irrelephant11 (0):

Not Voting (0):

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to eliminate.

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-07-04 11:14:00).

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Correction: Malakittens (0):