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I am still in support of my RVS vote, and we need a wagon.
So I suggest everyone condense onto my vote.
Please and thank you from your friendly neighborhood assassin.
Nothing is true, everything is permitted
I do not play like bringer, stop comparing me to bringer.
I agree with Sheldon that Java being a double voter is the sort of thing that was going to come out anyway if he can't switch it off and on, so there is no scum motivation to lie about such a thing and thus telling the truth about it isn't a towntell. I don't think that either his claim or his role are alignment indicative under these circumstances.
Java, did you get anything out of anybody's initial responses to your voting Cabd and then unvoting him without explanation?
I did too, kinda. I figured you were crumbing some sort of relationship with cabd, but it seemed off because I felt that if you had a two way relationship then it definitely would have been reciprocated, and it wasn't; he didn't respond to your vote at all or say anything about you. I think it's polite to not say anything when you think someone is doing something role related because you don't really need to know the answer and the answer will come out eventually, but it's unusual for an entire playerlist to be polite.
K. I am officiaIiy Iaying off java, I havr this thing wheer every doubIevoter I see I take as town. Tried to test some reactions but theres reaIIy nothing tonhoId against him there. I aIso see in the VC that it is confirmed... so there ya gi. AIso bIackbody radoation! Yeah!
In post 69, SheldonCooper wrote:I voted MoI following 56 because I was super sketched about about his willingness to consider a proven doublevote confirmed town as well as his inclination to not believe an extremely easily disprovable claim.
“Hey look – I’ll try to both peddle that MoI is somehow both doubting the claim and putting too much faith in it at the same time.”
This is so bad even Wolowitz wouldn’t come up with it.
Wonder whose Alt you are ...
In post 79, Travelling Salesman wrote:I don't think that either his claim or his role are alignment indicative under these circumstances.
Show me an example of a single scum double-voter in a 10-3 setup. I am serious in this request.
And don’t respond with “Outguess the Mod”. A scum double-voter greatly changes the dynamic of a 10-3 set-up. Until the point where there is evidence that supports Town having significant power to overcome that dynamic change I’m pleased to slot Java as Town and filter his posts through that lens in my reads.
In post 83, Cabd wrote:You don't think there's game relevant content in post 26, Sales?
VOTE: Cabd
"I am a leaf on the wind ... watch how I soar!"
Pretty much Geriatric game restricted at this point ... unless there are players I REALLY want to play with.
In post 69, SheldonCooper wrote:I voted MoI following 56 because I was super sketched about about his willingness to consider a proven doublevote confirmed town as well as his inclination to not believe an extremely easily disprovable claim.
“Hey look – I’ll try to both peddle that MoI is somehow both doubting the claim and putting too much faith in it at the same time.”
This is so bad even Wolowitz wouldn’t come up with it.
Wonder whose Alt you are ...
In post 79, Travelling Salesman wrote:I don't think that either his claim or his role are alignment indicative under these circumstances.
Show me an example of a single scum double-voter in a 10-3 setup. I am serious in this request.
And don’t respond with “Outguess the Mod”. A scum double-voter greatly changes the dynamic of a 10-3 set-up. Until the point where there is evidence that supports Town having significant power to overcome that dynamic change I’m pleased to slot Java as Town and filter his posts through that lens in my reads.
In post 83, Cabd wrote:You don't think there's game relevant content in post 26, Sales?
In post 70, SirCakez wrote:Why not? I want to be sold some delicious Plot reads.
Because I've noticed scum are a bit more likely to prompt me to share my thoughts with the rest of the class, usually treating me as if I've simply forgotten to attach names to my readslist, or as if I just didn't know that sharing reads progresses the game. Anen and Bella both did it in the Odds. Jake did it in the last game I ICed. I think it worries them not knowing where I stand.
You and Kuroi are also sucking up to me a little.
I didn't mind Magna's question as much because the answer to his question wasn't immediately obvious and he doesn't seem to care more than he should about my page 3 reads, just about why I was behaving strangely.
I also though Aneninen's entrance was overly apologetic.
In post 83, Cabd wrote:You don't think there's game relevant content in post 26, Sales?
I did, and I've since talked to my hydra partner about it.
In post 84, MagnaofIllusion wrote:Show me an example of a single scum double-voter in a 10-3 setup. I am serious in this request.
And don’t respond with “Outguess the Mod”. A scum double-voter greatly changes the dynamic of a 10-3 set-up. Until the point where there is evidence that supports Town having significant power to overcome that dynamic change I’m pleased to slot Java as Town and filter his posts through that lens in my reads.
Setup spec isn't my one of my strengths so I took you up on this.
Spoiler: 8 games
I used site search to find "double voter" in the first posts of topics in Mayfair Club, Littly Italy, and Coney Island. There were 23 matches.
I'm reluctant to count Everything's A Lie Mafia for obvious reasons but I spectated it and the flips weren't lies in that game, just everything else was. Firebringer was Cheat, a Mafia Ninja Conditional-Double-Voter. The setup was like 2:2:1:4 or something.
It didn't show up in these results, but I'm remembering a varsoon game that i'm pretty sure was a mini in which the scum x-voter gained an additional vote each day phase that ended in a lynch but that was horribly broken. Xtoxm's role in Space Dandy. Town lynched scum on day 1 and then on day 3 lost to a scum triple voter at 7:2. (technically lost night 3 but anyway).
It is true that double voters are more commonly town than not, and it also true that I have a mild townread on Java, but I'm not willing to consider somebody conftown because they claimed a confirmable role. I am happiest when I can find multiple reasons to townread somebody. It seems that roughly 83% of the time, doublevoters are protown. This is a higher number than the 77% chance anybody has of being town, but it's not in the conftown range.
Spoiler: i suppose most people don't care but this was kinda interesting
ctrl-f voter returns 17 results, ones that site searched miss are:
228 Super Smash Brothers - had a town specialised voter and a mafia specialised voter. the mafia voter's role pm says he gained additional votes whenever he was off a lynch wagon, and it was cumulative. he had to indicate in thread whether he was voting normally or using his ability.
In post 86, Travelling Salesman wrote:It is true that double voters are more commonly town than not, and it also true that I have a mild townread on Java, but I'm not willing to consider somebody conftown because they claimed a confirmable role. I am happiest when I can find multiple reasons to townread somebody. It seems that roughly 83% of the time, doublevoters are protown. This is a higher number than the 77% chance anybody has of being town, but it's not in the conftown range.
In post 86, Travelling Salesman wrote:In Mini 1071 Secret Invasion Mafia, there was a Scum Investigation Immune Double Voter.
I also played in this one. It there definitely was significant Town power in that game. I was a Bulletproof Unblockable Doctor …
And some of the other games aren’t specIifically Apples to Apples as they are not 10-3 set-ups. The 70s SmallTown I played in had a Serial Killer. In fact all SmallTown set-ups are required to be 9-3-1. There are a few other examples of non 10-3 setups in that mix also. And if you are pulling games from my first tenure on site (by age) it is clear Mafia Doublevoter is not significantly common. I’m not going to say they are impossible. But if I did a tally I’d guess more than 35 to 40% of the games you cited were 9-3-1 not 10-3.
Java is a very tough read for me. I am happy to take him and place him as Town in my reads list until there is significant evidence for me to revise my opinion.
"I am a leaf on the wind ... watch how I soar!"
Pretty much Geriatric game restricted at this point ... unless there are players I REALLY want to play with.
In post 70, SirCakez wrote:Why not? I want to be sold some delicious Plot reads.
Because I've noticed scum are a bit more likely to prompt me to share my thoughts with the rest of the class, usually treating me as if I've simply forgotten to attach names to my readslist, or as if I just didn't know that sharing reads progresses the game. Anen and Bella both did it in the Odds. Jake did it in the last game I ICed. I think it worries them not knowing where I stand.
In post 69, SheldonCooper wrote:I voted MoI following 56 because I was super sketched about about his willingness to consider a proven doublevote confirmed town as well as his inclination to not believe an extremely easily disprovable claim.
“Hey look – I’ll try to both peddle that MoI is somehow both doubting the claim and putting too much faith in it at the same time.”
This is so bad even Wolowitz wouldn’t come up with it.
Wonder whose Alt you are ...
In post 79, Travelling Salesman wrote:I don't think that either his claim or his role are alignment indicative under these circumstances.
Show me an example of a single scum double-voter in a 10-3 setup. I am serious in this request.
And don’t respond with “Outguess the Mod”. A scum double-voter greatly changes the dynamic of a 10-3 set-up. Until the point where there is evidence that supports Town having significant power to overcome that dynamic change I’m pleased to slot Java as Town and filter his posts through that lens in my reads.
In post 83, Cabd wrote:You don't think there's game relevant content in post 26, Sales?
VOTE: Cabd
I'm not quite sure whether your less evolved mind is having issues grasping the thinking of a man like me or whether you're deliberately misinterpreting my statements for your own personal gain!
That said, what I
actually
stated was that you were both 1) requiring proof of a doublevoter claim which makes very little sense and 2) much too inclined to believe that someone is confirmed town over a simple doublevoter role, many of whom I have seen on scum teams.
It seems to me like there's a decent chance that you are scum who saw him as unpushable and wanted to make a show of coming to that conclusion!
In post 90, SheldonCooper wrote:I'm not quite sure whether your less evolved mind is having issues grasping the thinking of a man like me or whether you're deliberately misinterpreting my statements for your own personal gain!
If your mind was as evolved as you say you'd be able to actually crop posts to not quote unnecessary text to make your posts more readable and pleasing.
But I know this is you Shotty so you probably shouldn't bother with the play-acting ...
"I am a leaf on the wind ... watch how I soar!"
Pretty much Geriatric game restricted at this point ... unless there are players I REALLY want to play with.
@ Magna: I included all of the games that I could find with minimal effort which had a scum double voter, including some that had SKs, for thoroughness, and because I couldn't say anything intelligible about how to balance 9-3-1 vs 10-3, though I'd probably enjoy reading a mafia discussion post on the topic. double voter isn't a very common role in the first place it seems, but in about 5 out of 6 games it was a town role. My mod meta expectations for anti are that the game will not be easily breakable by massclaim, that it will be reasonably balanced and that the setup will be interesting.
I'm quite heavily townreading Travelling Salesman because I feel like the setup spec was genuine here and 86 really felt like someone trying to solve the game.
I think that Kuroi is probably town as well because I find it very near impossible to imagine scum playing in that manner this early in the game.
Javajoe is most likely likely town as well for their approach to the claim, as well as to an extent their role being likely town.
Everyone else is null at this point except for MoI who I am scumreading because their approach to the Java claim didn't feel at all like actual scumhunting and Shos whose play in general has been extremely lackluster and who described his townread on Javajoe as 'nothing to hold against him' which really feels like scum looking for something to scumread rather than town trying to sort genuinely.
I would be most appreciative if a wagon formed on one of those two.
In post 97, SheldonCooper wrote:Javajoe is most likely likely town as well for their approach to the claim, as well as to an extent their role being likely town.
Everyone else is null at this point except for MoI who I am scumreading because their approach to the Java claim didn't feel at all like actual scumhunting
Scum. Scum desperately trying to justify a scum read on me for the exact same conclusion I drew.
because I was super sketched about about his willingness to consider a proven doublevote confirmed town
as well as his inclination to not believe an extremely easily disprovable claim.
Here is the initial reasoning on why I am scum. The bolded is the important part.
1. 56 never says anything about Java being “Confirmed Town”. It simply says I could sort him as Town for his role. So a misrep.
2. He comes to that same analysis on Java as quoted above. He's now couching his read on "it doesn't feel like real scum-hunting" which is means ... he can't actually justify his stance and has to throw empty words.
That and he ignores the whole back and forth I had with Travelling that explains exactly my thought process.
VOTE: Sheldon
Or Shotty.
"I am a leaf on the wind ... watch how I soar!"
Pretty much Geriatric game restricted at this point ... unless there are players I REALLY want to play with.
In post 97, SheldonCooper wrote:Javajoe is most likely likely town as well for their approach to the claim, as well as to an extent their role being likely town.
Everyone else is null at this point except for MoI who I am scumreading because their approach to the Java claim didn't feel at all like actual scumhunting
Scum. Scum desperately trying to justify a scum read on me for the exact same conclusion I drew.
because I was super sketched about about his willingness to consider a proven doublevote confirmed town
as well as his inclination to not believe an extremely easily disprovable claim.
Here is the initial reasoning on why I am scum. The bolded is the important part.
1. 56 never says anything about Java being “Confirmed Town”. It simply says I could sort him as Town for his role. So a misrep.
2. He comes to that same analysis on Java as quoted above. He's now couching his read on "it doesn't feel like real scum-hunting" which is means ... he can't actually justify his stance and has to throw empty words.
That and he ignores the whole back and forth I had with Travelling that explains exactly my thought process.
VOTE: Sheldon
Or Shotty.
Oh absolutely not. I totally agree that a doublevoter claim makes someone more likely to be town!
I don't agree with your claim that it makes him confirmed town. I mostly play offsite but I have seen plenty of scum doublevoters in similar setups, with the caveat that most of the time they lose their doublevote on LyLo! I believe he is town because I don't believe you'd have reacted to your scumbuddy in that way though! I thus don't agree that you can sort someone simply based on that claim, I don't believe that you would have rushed that conclusion as town, and I don't at all believe that you didn't believe his doublevoter claim from the get go and required him to prove it. Were you actually claiming to believe that you thought he claimed doublevoter without a doublevote seriously? I find it fairly obvious that Java was not joking with that claim so I find your position to be irreconcilable from reality.
Too late, i've already given my reads!