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Post Post #800 (ISO) » Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:23 am

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In post 796, Yume wrote:It confirms yo of being scum because you are defending your partner/buying him time by stalling on questioning him.
Lucky is not confirmed scum...?

You cannot confirm me as scum when Lucky isn’t even confirmed of scum. Even if Lucky was confirmed scum, I could still be a townie ‘defending’ scum. (But I refute the accusation that I am defending him).

If you are town, your inability to reason either argument stops you from talking to me like a townie.
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Post Post #801 (ISO) » Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:34 am

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That's how mafia is played here. I don't know how you play it on your home site, but that's the way it's played here, and you gotta accept that eventually if you wanna continue playing here.
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Post Post #802 (ISO) » Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:35 am

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Lucky, Pro, Luca/Cooper to roleclaim next?
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Post Post #803 (ISO) » Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:40 am

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In post 801, Yume wrote:That's how mafia is played here. I don't know how you play it on your home site, but that's the way it's played here, and you gotta accept that eventually if you wanna continue playing here.
That’s how
you
play on mafiascum. Don’t confuse the two. The 7 other players even in this game possessed the ability to talk without resorting to AtE/miss-reps/narrow-minded confirmation bias.
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Post Post #804 (ISO) » Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:41 am

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In post 802, Agent Dale Cooper wrote:Lucky, Pro, Luca/Cooper to roleclaim next?
What? Who claimed first?
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Post Post #805 (ISO) » Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:45 am

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In post 798, Yume wrote:Also, the reason I don't think the game will end today is because I am Bartleby Pischore, that's why.
@Lucky - I very much doubt this is yet more AtE/pseudo-softing/hinting.

This looks like a BP hard claim.
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Post Post #806 (ISO) » Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:49 am

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Not a bad fake claim. Me next?
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Post Post #807 (ISO) » Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:53 am

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ProHawk. You’ve been very quiet today (D3). You are slowly fitting into the stereotype of ‘scum-letting-town-destroy-eachother-without-pointing-the-lynch-in-any-other-direction’.
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Post Post #808 (ISO) » Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:56 am

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In post 806, Lucky2u wrote:Not a bad fake claim. Me next?
Probably you yeah. The most intense scum reads today are Yume’s s/read of you and your scum read of Yume. Neither of you are strong town reads/leans of anyone. Pro/Me/Luca are second tier probably.
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Post Post #809 (ISO) » Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:58 am

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Citizen. Prohawk next please
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Post Post #810 (ISO) » Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:41 am

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Post Post #811 (ISO) » Mon Oct 23, 2017 1:20 pm

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Citizen, sorry just been out of town vacationing
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Post Post #812 (ISO) » Mon Oct 23, 2017 1:21 pm

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I'd like to hear Cooper's claim next
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Post Post #813 (ISO) » Mon Oct 23, 2017 1:21 pm

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In post 807, Agent Dale Cooper wrote:ProHawk. You’ve been very quiet today (D3). You are slowly fitting into the stereotype of ‘scum-letting-town-destroy-eachother-without-pointing-the-lynch-in-any-other-direction’.
I don't actually get this, who is the town destroying eachother in your hypothetical?
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Post Post #814 (ISO) » Mon Oct 23, 2017 1:45 pm

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In post 760, Luca Blight wrote:Please explain why you believe the NK's have been to set you up for the lynch? Surely the fact no-one has really pushed you today (you're the only one associating the NK's with yourself) in itself disproves that theory?

Also Hawk, where do you stand on the Lucky v Yume battle?
I actually have been suspicious of this and thought Cooper was trying to frame me for it. Don't see any reason for the 4nxiety kill except for that purpose.

If I had to vote now, it would be Lucky.
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Post Post #815 (ISO) » Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:36 pm

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Yume, you still haven't answered this:

Spoiler:
In post 759, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 546, Yume wrote:
In post 543, Agent Dale Cooper wrote:I am not opposing it. I am saying, "yes, ah Occam's razor. That is a good point. However, what other reasons are there to scum read Lucky?"


Why are you using your last game as the golden rule for all other games, that's a logical fallacy. You can use it to help you make a decision this game, but to make it a black and white rule is naive.

Can you answer my question about ProHawk:
does Occam's razor point to ProHawk being scum?
In theory, yes, but that would mean too much scum in this game, and my scumread on Lucky is stronger.
In post 547, Yume wrote:Luca as scum is largely based on PoE.
This makes no sense - how can I be scum by POE when you heavily scumread Lucky and admit that Occam's razor also points to Pro being scum?

And I don't believe you have ever really explained your strong Pro Townread, so if you could do so then that would be appreciated.
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Post Post #816 (ISO) » Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:52 pm

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In post 776, Yume wrote:And this is your scum strategy, btw. You plan to have me lynched and then mislynch Pro as he'd be vulnerable to your dual attack without me to defend him. I solved the game. :)
In post 798, Yume wrote:Also, the reason I don't think the game will end today is because I am Bartleby Pischore, that's why.
So if you're town BP and are lynched today the game won't end? This simply isn't correct.

And can you confirm your role-claim and give the exact wording of it, just so we're clear.

Incidentally, no-one has even been attacking Pro today (or yesterday for that matter); you've just been overly town-reading him for no apparent reason. Don't try and act as though you've been defending Pro against being lynched when that's never even been a consideration since you entered the game.
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Post Post #817 (ISO) » Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:38 pm

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In post 812, ProHawk wrote:I'd like to hear Cooper's claim next
Citizen!
In post 813, ProHawk wrote:
In post 807, Agent Dale Cooper wrote:ProHawk. You’ve been very quiet today (D3). You are slowly fitting into the stereotype of ‘scum-letting-town-destroy-eachother-without-pointing-the-lynch-in-any-other-direction’.
I don't actually get this, who is the town destroying eachother in your hypothetical?
It's a simple hypothetical - any potential combination of players tearing their hair out and pressing eachother (excluding you, who's still in
'I've-been-framed!-mode'
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Post Post #818 (ISO) » Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:51 pm

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Can a roleblocker block a night kill?

I.e if we have a 'town' BP also we have TWO roles that can stop a mafia NK?
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Post Post #819 (ISO) » Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:31 am

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I never said I was BP. You just assumed because the initials were B.P.

FYI, if I want to claim, I don't hint. I claim directly. I say 'I am town BP' as opposed to doing breadcrumbs.
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Post Post #820 (ISO) » Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:44 am

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Btw, if you think only I have confbias, then you are in for a nasty suprise, because 90% of players here are confbiased. You are just playing this game with the remaining 10%.
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Post Post #821 (ISO) » Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:49 am

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Yume, it feels like you're not willing to interact with anyone other than Cooper in this game. Please answer my questions.

Here's another one - if you're not Town BP, what are you?
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Post Post #822 (ISO) » Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:52 am

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I am also a Citizen.
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Post Post #823 (ISO) » Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:53 am

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Next one - why are you townreading Pro so strongly?
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Post Post #824 (ISO) » Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:55 am

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Well, Pro didn't quickhammer for one. Lucky is my stronger scumread, and due to Pro scumreading Lucky, Pro/Lucky scumteam is unlikely at this point. That's why I townread Pro.
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