Open 857 | Frienemies | Postgame

[Andante]

tldr on this?

I mean, do you think he's town? he's just there. like, not actively doing anything, literally just existing. and like I've been calling him maf all game, and he just shrugs it off. implosion is where my strongest SR is right now

[Datisi]

he's just there. like, not actively doing anything, literally just existing. and like I've been calling him maf all game, and he just shrugs it off.

how is this different from a bunch of other slots that do this and why is the latter scummy?

[Andante]

how is this different from a bunch of other slots

like who?

mala? there's 0 content or will to play the game there. like, I'm not opposed to limming her, but like, no point in tunneling someone doing nothing

implosion has put in enough "effort" and I don't think he's town. simple as that

[Aristeia]

VOTE: mala :/

[Datisi]

meh, figured. hoped it would've been a more exciting answer, but sure

pedit: oooh
ari, how is this different than town!mala not playing the game?

[Aristeia]

uh dont you remember?

[Aristeia]

~.~

[hutmeil]

thanks! and as per my profile, i am 22

Oh right, didn't see that!

can you make a readslist? doesn't have to be overly long or detailed, i just wanna see the cliffnotes on where you stand on people and why

Okay here goes:

hutmeil

Obviously!

VP Baltar
Andante
implosion
Datisi

^ I believe the above list is scumhunting. That's townish to me. Though I still don't like Andante hop voting a lot.

Something_Smart
fireisredsir
Gamma Emerald
Aristeia

^ Feels towny to me.

PenguinPower
GeorgeBailey
Malakittens

^ Lurking too much.

Vulture

I don't like the PR reveal suggestion.

what's the difference to you between vulture making that excuse, and me making excuses that i have exams, or george and mala straight up not being here?

The difference is vulture suggested the PR out thing.

Congrats on the exam results by the way! Does this mean you're in your early 20s? I feel ancient now lol.

1) You said early on that it was scummy to you that I suggested it. Do you think that I would, as scum, do something that early to the benefit of a team? You also followed up the idea with you being unsure if it benefitted town or scum to do so. Have you defaulted to it benefitting scum now? (Not a fair word but the one my mind used).

To debate whether scum would do such a thing early is sort of WIFOM. If you were scum, you could suggest such a thing thinking that Town would think it's not a scummy move since it's very early D1. So it's better to talk about whether outing PRs would benefit town or not instead. And I have come to the conclusion that it won't benefit town as much. I'm not "metaing" anyone as I don't have the time to do so. I'm just looking at the suggestion and I find that it's not towny. Hence the vote.

2) You think I’m making excuses to lay low, but I’ve also posted after stating my energy levels. Why not engage with my content as it is? Have you read it and do you agree or disagree with my reads, any thoughts?

To be fair, you did post after you said that. I'll have to ISO to give a proper reply.

Like, Hutmeil, the level that you’re engaging the game with right now feels very shallow, I guess?

I don’t think it’s worth going back and forth on whether or not suggesting a strategy like that is scummy because I came into the game aware that it would be received poorly and people would kneejerk react. But I guess you seem to be... stuck on that early thing and basing things around it longer than I think someone would if they had... more to give.

As I've mentioned above, I'm not looking into any meta but just the merits of the suggestion itself. I don't have time to meta since I would have to do so for everyone of you. Shallow, maybe? But it's D1 (not much info), I'm not doing meta so I don't really have much to give. I think the only slot I can meta is Mala. I played with Mala last game. Mala was lurking but she turned out to be Town so Mala!lurker doesn't equate to Mala!scum. But then again, I don't like lurkers. So for me, lurking can be a scum strategy, but given my meta on her, I'll let her go at least for now.

[implosion]

tldr on this?

I mean, do you think he's town? he's just there. like, not actively doing anything, literally just existing. and like I've been calling him maf all game, and he just shrugs it off. implosion is where my strongest SR is right now

pretty easy to shrug it off when you just yell "implosion is maf" and vanity vote me. I'd be annoyed at it if you were getting any traction.

[implosion]

I'm having a really hard time in this game getting almost any reads I feel good about.

[fireisredsir]

i think that hut's initial relatively shallow reasons for scumreading people wasn't scummy bc they did similar as town

i do think that hut's continued focus on vulture's entrance as a reason for their strongest SR, and not really engaging with the rest of vulture's content except as a way to respond about that one single point, is kinda scummy. maybe more than kinda, even. as town they did start shallow but continued finding new things to poke at and respond to

[fireisredsir]

So I'm not town because I don't post that much? I understand though, I don't like lurkers too! Speaking of, Malakittens hasn't posted yet has she?

I think the only slot I can meta is Mala. I played with Mala last game. Mala was lurking but she turned out to be Town so Mala!lurker doesn't equate to Mala!scum. But then again, I don't like lurkers. So for me, lurking can be a scum strategy, but given my meta on her, I'll let her go at least for now.

actually these two in combination is p sus as well

[Datisi]

uh dont you remember?

if the answer involves the recent coalition game, then no, i was not exactly paying attention to her slot >_>

[implosion]

So I'm not town because I don't post that much? I understand though, I don't like lurkers too! Speaking of, Malakittens hasn't posted yet has she?

I think the only slot I can meta is Mala. I played with Mala last game. Mala was lurking but she turned out to be Town so Mala!lurker doesn't equate to Mala!scum. But then again, I don't like lurkers. So for me, lurking can be a scum strategy, but given my meta on her, I'll let her go at least for now.

actually these two in combination is p sus as well

For what reason? I can think of a reason but want to know if it's what you're thinking

[Aristeia]

uh dont you remember?

if the answer involves the recent coalition game, then no, i was not exactly paying attention to her slot >_>

viewtopic.php?t=89426&f=83&st=0&sk=t&sd ... er_sort=Go

#741 is how she reacted to being pushed for lurking then

[Datisi]

uh dont you remember?

if the answer involves the recent coalition game, then no, i was not exactly paying attention to her slot >_>

viewtopic.php?t=89426&f=83&st=0&sk=t&sd ... er_sort=Go

#741 is how she reacted to being pushed for lurking then

oh

oh no

VOTE: malakittens

[fireisredsir]

oh yea BH did make that whole meta case about her responding more harshly to being incorrectly scumread when she's town, hm

[Aristeia]

and you mislimmed her at the end anyway fire >.>

[fireisredsir]

So I'm not town because I don't post that much? I understand though, I don't like lurkers too! Speaking of, Malakittens hasn't posted yet has she?

I think the only slot I can meta is Mala. I played with Mala last game. Mala was lurking but she turned out to be Town so Mala!lurker doesn't equate to Mala!scum. But then again, I don't like lurkers. So for me, lurking can be a scum strategy, but given my meta on her, I'll let her go at least for now.

actually these two in combination is p sus as well

For what reason? I can think of a reason but want to know if it's what you're thinking

my reason is that they redirected accusations of lurking onto another slot, Mala, one that they later mentioned they had meta of her lurking as town. bringing her up specifically as the one to redirect on makes it feel to me like they knew that she was likely to continue lurking as town and thus would be an easy push to make

it doesn't really make sense from town bc i don't know why you make the first quote when you already have the knowledge in the second quote

[fireisredsir]

and you mislimmed her at the end anyway fire >.>

hey if i was only listening to him, he told me to never ever elim std, so. gotta be wrong on one of em

[PenguinPower]

why?

i think it's kinda obvious - but i'm not sure how i feel about you. I didn't want to keep using question mark gifs...gotta change it up.

[Aristeia]

and you mislimmed her at the end anyway fire >.>

hey if i was only listening to him, he told me to never ever elim std, so. gotta be wrong on one of em

fair

[implosion]

my reason is that they redirected accusations of lurking onto another slot, Mala, one that they later mentioned they had meta of her lurking as town. bringing her up specifically as the one to redirect on makes it feel to me like they knew that she was likely to continue lurking as town and thus would be an easy push to make

it doesn't really make sense from town bc i don't know why you make the first quote when you already have the knowledge in the second quote

I guess this is roughly what I figured? I feel like the first quote still makes sense in the context of Mala being the only person hutmeil has any meta on in a game where they mentioned being frustrated by all the meta talk. I can see the pushing the accusation on to someone else but I also feel like it's kind of on the nose for scum who is lurking to spend half their big reads post talking about not liking lurkers/having a reads list that is nearly just the player list sorted by activity.

[fireisredsir]

it is on the nose but having read their town game i don't really see any reason to believe they wouldn't be on the nose as scum

[implosion]

The malakittens thing feels too blatant to be reliable, but also I guess it's possible she's just preoccupied with life and doesn't have the time/energy to be convincing in a brief pop in in a scum game.