Newbie 858 - Town Wins on Day 2

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Newbie 858 - Town Wins!

Still Alive (6/9)

Torquez

rp. YamiJoey

eyeopener

rp. Heilograph

Kyiv
Altilysian

rp. Runeshadow

Iecerint (SE)
Elephant Hell

rp. magichands

Dead (/9)

malpascp,

Mafia Goon

, Lynched Day One.
MordyS

rp. Kuro

,

Townie

, Killed Night One.
julienvonwolfe (IC),

Mafia Goon

, Lynched Day Two.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Game Rules (Shamelessly stolen from Vel-Rahn Koon):

General Gameplay and Etiquette:

1. You may not quote private Moderator-supplied information (either real or fabricated) of any kind. Paraphrasing (for role claims, etc.) is acceptable.
   
2. There is to be NO personal communication outside of the forum postings unless your role PM specifically allows it.
   
3. If you have a role with a Night action your choices are due to me by the posted deadline. If I do not receive your choice via PM by the posted deadline you will forfeit your actions.
   
4. Roles with Night actions will not be able to submit an action on Night 0 (i.e. during the confirmation stage).
   
5. Any player with a Night action may instead submit a “No Action” PM to let the Mod know that you do not want to perform your expected action that Night phase.
   
6. In order for all players to play at least one game day this game will start with a Day phase. Communication outside the thread (if your role specifically allows it) is allowed until the game begins.
   
7. As a general rule you should aim for one post every 48 hours, minimum, to keep the game moving.
   
8. All Newbie games have strict 3-week deadlines per game day.
   Extensions are given only in extreme circumstances.

Voting, Deadlines, and Player Death:

1. A simple majority of all living members must agree on one person for a Lynch to occur (simple majority = ½ # of living players +1, rounded down).
   
2. Once you have reached a simple majority no further unvoting will change someone’s fate.
   
3. Please submit votes as:
   Vote: PlayerName
   .
   Votes will NOT be counted otherwise!
   
   
4. Please submit vote revocations as either
   UnVote: PlayerName
   or
   Unvote
   . Unvotes are not necessary before changing votes.
   
5. You may
   Vote: No Lynch
   - a simple majority of these vote types are required to send the game to Night phase without a Lynch.
   
6. At deadline, ½ the original number of votes will be required for a lynch. In the case of a tie, the person who first received the required number of votes will be lynched. If this number is not met, a No Lynch will occur.
   There will be no reduced number of votes in LyLo.
   
   
7. Once a player is lynched the game enters twilight until I post a death scene; the lynched player may not post during twilight but all other living players may continue to post.
   
8. Once you are killed (either via lynch or night kill) you may no longer post except for a brief “Bah!”-type post.

Miscellaneous/Mechanics:

1. Red
   or
   Indigo
   text is reserved for the Mod. No invisible/small text is allowed.
   
2. Votecounts will be posted once per page or once per day, whichever is less.
   
3. If you have an issue/problem with the game, please PM the Mod privately. Do not post issues/complaints in the game thread.
   
4. The Mod may make mistakes - please point out any mistakes gently. Mistakes will be corrected where possible, but sometimes mistakes are made that cannot be reversed. These will stand as final to be commiserated over after the game.
   
5. Please bold all requests to the Mod so that they don’t get missed.
   
   
6. Prods of missing players will be issued upon request or after 4 days of no activity. A prodded player has 48 hours to respond or risks replacement. A player who has been prodded 3 times is subject to replacement without further notice.
   
7. Rules violations will be dealt with according to their severity, up to and including a Modkill. Modkills may be accompanied by a change to day/night.
   
8. If you anticipate being unavailable for more than a 48-hour period please post a notice to that effect in the thread.
   Treat this game as a commitment. Be considerate – don’t leave us hanging.

The Golden Rule:

Please remember that this is a game and your main objective is to have fun! Be considerate of each other, don’t get personal, and enjoy the game.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

The F11 setup is the current game format used in Newbie games. To prevent the development of game-breaking strategies, these Newbie Games are Semi-Open, wherein the actual game setup is randomly chosen from one of four possible setups as detailed below:

• 1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 1 Sane Cop, 1 Sane Doctor, 5 Townies
  
• 1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 7 Townies
  
• 2 Mafia Goons, 1 Sane Cop, 6 Townies
  
• 2 Mafia Goons, 1 Sane Doctor, 6 Townies

If either of the first two setups are in play, and the situation occurs where the Goon is lynched first, the Roleblocker will still be able to submit both night kills and roleblocks (roleblocking is a function of the Roleblocker; night kills are a function of the scum team as a whole).

These are the Role PMs that have potentially been sent to the players:

Mafia-Aligned players:

Mafia Goon:

You are a member of the Mafia along with your partner,

name

. Since your plot to quietly overtake the town has failed, you will attempt take it by force by eliminating the others until you outnumber the populace.

• During the day, try to blend in with the normal Townies, and attempt to get someone lynched.
  
• During the NIGHT cycle ONLY, you may talk with your fellow Mafia (via PM) and choose another player in the town to kill that night.
  
• You may communicate privately with your fellow Mafia up until the game thread is opened. Once the game begins, all outside communication must cease until the night cycle.
  
• You win when the number of Mafia equals or exceeds the number of remaining Town players, whether you survive to the end or not.

Mafia Roleblocker:

You are a member of the Mafia along with your partner,

name

. Since your plot to quietly overtake the town has failed, you will attempt take it by force by eliminating the others until you outnumber the populace.

• During the day, try to blend in with the normal Townies, and attempt to get someone lynched.
  
• As a Roleblocker, you have the ability to distract any player throughout the night, effectively negating their night ability, if they have one.
  
• Send the moderator a PM with your choice of player that you want to block. If they have a Night action, it will have no effect. You will not be informed as to whether your roleblock worked or not.
  
• During the NIGHT cycle ONLY, you may talk with your fellow Mafia (via PM) and choose another player in the town to kill that night.
  
• You may communicate privately with your fellow Mafia up until the game thread is opened. Once the game begins, all outside communication must cease until the night cycle.
  
• You win when the number of Mafia equals or exceeds the number of remaining Town players, whether you survive to the end or not.

Town-Aligned players:

Townie:

You are a normal townsperson, trying to make a living and survive this insanity.

• You have no abilities at Night other than getting a good night's rest.
  
• Although you do not have any special abilities, your voice and vote are powerful weapons in their own right. Use them to your best advantage!
  
• At no time may you privately communicate with any other player.
  
• You win when all the Mafia players are gone, whether you survive to the end or not.

Cop:

You are the local law enforcement, and can tell the good guys from the bad.

• Each NIGHT, you may send the moderator a PM with your choice of player that you want to investigate.
  
• The Moderator will inform you as to that person’s guilt or innocence.
  
• At no time may you privately communicate with any other player.
  
• In a Newbie game, you will always get a correct result (no sanity issues).
  
• You win when all the Mafia players are gone, whether you survive to the end or not.

Doctor:

You are the local physician, and can protect people from harm.

• Each NIGHT, you may send the moderator a PM with your choice of player that you want to protect.
  
• If someone attempts to kill that player during the Night, they will be spared.
  
• You may not protect yourself.
  
• At no time may you privately communicate with any other player.
  
• In a Newbie game, your protection target will always live through the night (no quacks).
  
• You win when all the Mafia players are gone, whether you survive to the end or not.

[Runeshadow]

/Confirmed.

[YamiJoey]

/Confirm

YJ

[malpascp]

/confirm

[julienvonwolfe]

Howdy people! I'm your friendly neighbourhood IC. If you have a question, I'll try to provide some sort of wisdom. I'm sure the SEs will as well.

A few things that I would suggest to get the game going:

- everyone should have some form of avatar. This actually helps a lot when it comes to telling people apart.

- Can we have people post how much mafia they've played before, if any? Also, is this the only game you're playing at the moment?

- Finally, some common abbreviations that come up:

WIFOM - stands for 'wine in front of me', from the scene in the Princess Bride (I think). If any explanation of some subject can be followed by 'but maybe that's what they want me to think', then that's WIFOM.

OMGUS - stands for 'oh my god, you suck!'. This is usually used to describe some form of retaliatory attack. For example, a player might vote for another. If that player then votes the other back, then that's an example of an OMGUS vote. This is considered a classic scumtell by some.

[Runeshadow]

This is the second game of Mafia I've ever played. I had to quit halfway through the first game because of personal issues. However, I have read quite a few of the newbie games from start to finish, so I hope that helps.

As far as the game, I'm a "one at a time" kinda guy. So yes, this the only game I'm playing.

Good luck everyone, and let's have some fun.

[YamiJoey]

Played and completed a game of Mafia on here. (Check my wiki page. xD)
I've played in seventeen completed games on another site (I'm currently 9/7 W/L on there, which is terrible but >50% is fine by me. xD) and I've hosted two-minis and a large over there. I am currently involved in this game, the Death Note Mafia in Coney Island, am signed up for Masons and Monks which should be starting soon (if not already. I'm about to check.) and signed up for another small game on here.

So yeah; lots of Scumming at the moment. xD

TBH I can't wait to receive a Cop role, just for my avatar. =D

Also; maybe you can clear this up for me. What is the term for a situation where I state something (how scummy I think a person is, etc.) and then go ahead and say "But if they aren't/it isn't... Then"? I have been told this is also WIFOM, but want to clarify, as I keep getting two explanations of it. (This and the one you wrote.)

YJ

[YamiJoey]

EBWOP: I just got subbed into Newbie 848, too. I'm in like, six games ATM. Just glad that Masons and Monks hasn't started yet, and the C7 game is still under sign-ups. (Replacing is a b**ch. xD)

YJ

[Iecerint]

/confirm

I've played about 4-5 times on this site -- mostly theme games. I'm only in one other ongoing game at present, but I may join a few more soon. I suppose I'm your SE.

YJ, if you're just talking about conditional logic ("if X, then Y; else, Z"), then that isn't WIFOM. When people say "WIFOM," they are usually accusing someone of inappropriately ignoring possibilities for rhetorical effect. It has a negative connotation. For example, I might argue that I wouldn't do something as scum while neglecting to mention that the fact that the play is non-standard may make it decent scum play in certain situations. Town players sometimes use WIFOM for rhetorical effect, too, though.

[YamiJoey]

So it's both the "But maybe that's what they want me to think" and "If I were Scum, why would I do that?" argument? OIC.

YJ

[Iecerint]

I think acknowledging the difficulties of a situation ("It could be X or Y. If X, etc.; if Y, etc.") is not scummy. Pointing out "but maybe that's what they want me to think" is OK as far as I'm concerned, so long as a player doesn't take the town on a wild, fruitless tangent with it. Similarly, sometimes there really are decent towntells (i.e. decent "I wouldn't do X as scum" arguments). The level at which reasonable assumptions become scummy tunnelvision is a little bit of an open question, but both conditions exist, just as vacuously equivocating and refusing to grant assumptions can be scummy.

[Kyiv]

/Fwee!

I've only played one other Mafia game on this site, for a grand total of... one Mafia game anywhere. I replaced in Day 1 in Newbie 852. I was summarily lynched XD

[YamiJoey]

That'd be your second post in any Mafia game, then? xD

Seems cruel to force someone into an L-1 position off the bat, TBH.

YJ

[magichands]

/confirm

[julienvonwolfe]

just a note to say that I will have limited activity until the weekend. If the game starts before I get back, feel free to start random-voting without me!

[malpascp]

We will don't worry xD
still waitin...

[YamiJoey]

Get an avatar, damn you! xD

YJ

[malpascp]

get one better than mine now MUHAHAHAHA
still waiting...

[YamiJoey]

Did that soon as I signed up. Future Cop rawks my sawks.

YJ

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Prodding those who have not responded.

[malpascp]

second page hehe

[malpascp]

wrong thread lol
scouts rocks!

[Heilograph]

/Confirm