NY139: Underground Mafia (Game over!)

sorgster · Post Post #24 (isolation #0) » Fri Aug 19, 2011 6:21 pm

VOTE: AntB

Everyone needs to get avatars. AntB was the very first person on the list of living players.

sorgster · Post Post #34 (isolation #1) » Fri Aug 19, 2011 9:09 pm

TheAwesomeAll wrote:you sold out uncledaphne

vote sorgster

redFF might also be scum.

What in the world are you saying? This makes no sense at all.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: TheAwesomeAll

sorgster · Post Post #36 (isolation #2) » Fri Aug 19, 2011 9:55 pm

TheAwesomeAll wrote:
you sold out uncledaphne

vote sorgster

redFF might also be scum.

What in the world are you talking about?

TheAwesomeAll wrote:ah sorry for the confusion

vote: sorgster

Confusion? I'm still confused, explain what you meant by that plz.

sorgster · Post Post #47 (isolation #3) » Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:06 am

uncledaphne wrote:
TheAwesomeAll wrote:you sold out uncledaphne

vote sorgster

redFF might also be scum.

Sold out?

I guess you are the only one with basic reading comprehension Vifam. Sold out doesn't equal to getting an avatar. It made me confused. I also wasn't the only one to countervote I believe. I was confused by what he said. Not the only person here.

sorgster · Post Post #58 (isolation #4) » Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:24 am

eep wrote:e first way I read it was that sorgster had sold out his mafia buddy uncledaphne to protect his own ass.

That's the way I first read it to and was why I was completly confused. But that made no sense at all to me. I'm not scum. I don't understand how saying I'm confused makes me scummy.

sorgster · Post Post #62 (isolation #5) » Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:45 am

sorgster wrote:
TheAwesomeAll wrote:
you sold out uncledaphne

vote sorgster

redFF might also be scum.

What in the world are you talking about?

TheAwesomeAll wrote:ah sorry for the confusion

vote: sorgster

Confusion? I'm still confused, explain what you meant by that plz.

sorgster wrote:
TheAwesomeAll wrote:you sold out uncledaphne

vote sorgster

redFF might also be scum.

What in the world are you saying? This makes no sense at all.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: TheAwesomeAll

That is aggressively defense? I asked him to explain what he meant and said it made no sense because I was confused and wanted clarification.

sorgster · Post Post #65 (isolation #6) » Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:02 am

TheAwesomeAll wrote:you didnt "ask me to explain" you voted for me right away, dont lie

I voted then asked for an explanation.

sorgster wrote:
TheAwesomeAll wrote:you sold out uncledaphne

vote sorgster

redFF might also be scum.

What in the world are you saying? This makes no sense at all.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: TheAwesomeAll

Vifam wrote:Sorg.

Look at the vote you placed..

I wasn't the only person in this game to countervote in this game.

sorgster · Post Post #67 (isolation #7) » Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:12 am

Vifam wrote:You voted him as if you had a guilty conscience, as if you thought you were accused of something you didn't do.

Sorg wrote:I wasn't the only person in this game to countervote in this game.

More deflection? Okay.

The vote stays for now.

I voted for him because what he said made no sense and it seemed made up. Not because of a guilty conscience.

sorgster · Post Post #69 (isolation #8) » Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:18 am

Vifam wrote:Then why would you ask him to explain it if you thought it was made up?

I thought he was saying I was selling out a scumbuddy and I was scum which

seemed

made up to me. I asked him to explain because I wanted clarification.

sorgster · Post Post #72 (isolation #9) » Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:22 am

Vifam wrote:IT'S A CONFIRMED LIE IF SOMEONE SAYS THAT TO YOU.

RIGHT?

Weren't you the one who said that if I read carefully it was about the avatars? What I inferred seemed made up but he was apparently talking about something else.

sorgster · Post Post #74 (isolation #10) » Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:26 am

Mysterio wrote:
sorgster wrote:
Vifam wrote:Then why would you ask him to explain it if you thought it was made up?

I thought he was saying I was selling out a scumbuddy and I was scum which
seemed
made up to me. I asked him to explain because I wanted clarification.

Wouldn't it be absolutely made up if you're town? I agree his post was confusing, but usually the response to a 3 line post with a handful of words is to not become defensive for several posts and vote the guy. You didn't just ask for clarification, you pretty much tunneled him afterwards and voted for him. It was a strange reaction to a post with almost zero content. Why did you feel the need to take the post so seriously?

Because he was accusing me of being scum. It was in random vote stage(or just out of it) so how was it tunneling? I've also been defending, so I'm not the one tunneling I think.

sorgster · Post Post #76 (isolation #11) » Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:59 am

That's why I voted him.

sorgster · Post Post #78 (isolation #12) » Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:19 am

redFF wrote:lol its rvs why so defensive?

Because I got three votes on me for voting for awesome and because his post confused me.

sorgster · Post Post #121 (isolation #13) » Sat Aug 20, 2011 12:21 pm

Vifam wrote:The other being: I "overreacted" which is ridiculous seeing how Sorg's reaction to TTA's vote was an "overreaction".

I hate how you are tunneling on me just because I countervoted.

sorgster · Post Post #134 (isolation #14) » Sat Aug 20, 2011 12:44 pm

I guess I'll have to stop being so whiny then and create a defense.

sorgster · Post Post #139 (isolation #15) » Sat Aug 20, 2011 12:48 pm

paraffin wrote:sorgster: great start

thanks. Beats the one I had in my newbie game.

sorgster · Post Post #222 (isolation #16) » Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:34 pm

Unvote
Vote UncleDaphne

I hate how theawesome only made two or three posts in the topic before starting the first bandwagon. Only

scum

vote for someone they see as town. If you want to put your vote somewhere but not sure where, just unvote without revoting.

sorgster · Post Post #225 (isolation #17) » Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:36 pm

uncledaphne wrote:
TheRainMan wrote:I hope you're not trying to drag me down with you T_T but stickin by my posts.

Well sorry friend. If everything goes along with Vifams plan he'll
quicklynch me then try to blame you as my partner

Par, vifam tried to get a quicklynch on sorg for a minuscule reason. Look how many votes I have on myself. Mainly because I couldnt change my vote because I couldnt bold on my phone. You might as well quicklynch my
cell phone while your at it

Trekker your uhh statement when you tried to explain why you were voting for me. Why did you say that?

Scumslip? look at the bolded part. We find out your role after you get eliminated. So to blame someone as their partner, they would first find out their role.

I forgot to bold my vote btw.

Unvote

Vote uncledaphne

sorgster · Post Post #226 (isolation #18) » Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:37 pm

Ouch rhed beat me to the scumslip.

sorgster · Post Post #231 (isolation #19) » Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:44 pm

uncledaphne wrote:
sorgster wrote:Unvote
Vote UncleDaphne

I hate how theawesome only made two or three posts in the topic before starting the first bandwagon. Only
scum
vote for someone they see as town. If you want to put your vote somewhere but not sure where, just unvote without revoting.

I was using my phone, I could highlight things with it so I couldnt change my vote. I have already stated that.

Because your post was confusing Redff. Is it not l2 against me now?

Redff that is
not a scumslip
. Your scum buddy Vifam, thats what he will do. I dont see how that was a scum slip.

Mysterio explain yourself

Yes it is. Look at my post with the same quote for the reasoning.

sorgster · Post Post #233 (isolation #20) » Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:46 pm

uncledaphne wrote:
redFF wrote:you are implying that once you flip vifam will be looking for your partner.

Yup. Once Vifams finished with his backupless quicklynch he will look back and attempt to lynch pandaman because he was the only who saw vifam for who he was. Aside from me of course

People who pressure a lot(called tunnelling when I did it in other games) get called scum a lot even though they actively scumhunt.

sorgster · Post Post #238 (isolation #21) » Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:50 pm

uncledaphne wrote:Sorgster, why is Vifam trying to quicklynch me?

He is pressuring, there is a difference. Under pressure you made a mistake and a

scumslip

.

Yes alignment and stuff is posted after death daphne.

sorgster · Post Post #242 (isolation #22) » Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:56 pm

Vifam wrote:
"Applying preassure"

#204 is where vifam said this. It feels like you are buddying/bussing with me. Stop please uncledaphne.

sorgster · Post Post #252 (isolation #23) » Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:13 pm

You deflected the attention from me to someone else or at least you tried to daphne.

@bell, I always seem scummy. Not a big problem to me.

sorgster · Post Post #254 (isolation #24) » Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:19 pm

uncledaphne wrote:Ok Im done for. Good job Vifam for getting everyone around your little finger. Horrible jobe everyone who isnt with Vifam on the mafia. Im disappointed in you guys

Pretending to be dead and trying to claim vifam is controlling us all. The scumslip is my only reason for my vote on you uncledaphne.

sorgster · Post Post #255 (isolation #25) » Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:20 pm

ebwop:The dead comment, I meant that you are trying to redirect attention to others while putting a goodbye post.

sorgster · Post Post #260 (isolation #26) » Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:28 pm

trekker wrote:If daphne is town we need to pay attention to sorgster and redFF tomorrow.

Not vifam though?

sorgster · Post Post #263 (isolation #27) » Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:33 pm

trekker wrote:If daphne is town we need to pay attention to sorgster and redFF tomorrow.

Unvote

Vote Trekker

You seem to be sheeping Vifam and trying to get rid of all suspicion from her. Sounds like buddying/sheeping to me. You two might be working together for all I know.

sorgster · Post Post #264 (isolation #28) » Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:35 pm

Also Daphne, what are you at right now? Can you please claim?

sorgster · Post Post #267 (isolation #29) » Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:38 pm

uncledaphne wrote:My reads are:

Village:

Trekker
Eep
Scum:
Vifam
Redff

You claim town but replace town with village?

sorgster · Post Post #270 (isolation #30) » Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:41 pm

implosion wrote:

Vote Count 1.1

AntB - 1
(sorgster)

Vifam - 2 (David Xanatos, uncledaphne)
redFF - 0
Nunez - 0
David Xanatos
Uprising - 1 (TheRainMan)
Mysterio - 0
sorgster - 1 (TheAwesomeAll)
StevieT92
TheRainMan
Daybid
NihilisticNinja
TheAwesomeAll
Stinger Bell

uncledaphne - 8 (Stringer Bell, redFF, paraffin, Vifam, eep, trekker, redFF, Mysterio) (L-2)

Gaylord Focker - 1 (Daybid)
paraffin
eep - 1 (Gaylord Focker)
trekker - 1
(sorgster)

With 19 alive, 10 votes are required to lynch.

If you
ever
notice a mistake that I've made with the votecount (or elsewhere) don't hesitate to tell me.

I'm not voting antb. U accidently put me twice I think.

sorgster · Post Post #281 (isolation #31) » Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:55 pm

trekker wrote:sorgster go on daphne again

Why?

sorgster · Post Post #287 (isolation #32) » Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:02 pm

trekker wrote:sperg purging

I second the sperg purging?

sorgster · Post Post #306 (isolation #33) » Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:58 pm

Unvote
Vote:Daphne

I agree I overreacted a bit to the first post.

sorgster · Post Post #312 (isolation #34) » Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:02 pm

uncledaphne wrote:Someone asked me to claim, ask him instead of me. Just thought I'd clear that up before I sleep.

That was me. The reason being that he was l-1 at that time or so I was told. It was also strange why he called it village first but said he was a townie.

sorgster · Post Post #316 (isolation #35) » Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:07 pm

redFF wrote:
uncledaphne wrote:Someone asked me to claim, ask him instead of me. Just thought I'd clear that up before I sleep.

I SEE YOU DOWN THERE

I posted my reason already.

sorgster · Post Post #343 (isolation #36) » Fri Aug 26, 2011 10:11 am

AntB has not posted at all and all Nunez has posted was his two posts so far. They're both confirmed though.

sorgster · Post Post #348 (isolation #37) » Fri Aug 26, 2011 10:32 am

VOTE: AntB

He hasn't posted at all yet and stays silent. Speak up plz.

sorgster · Post Post #350 (isolation #38) » Fri Aug 26, 2011 11:09 am

Hiraki wrote:Paraffin was actually one of my top scumreads.

This is annoying.

uncledaphne
- 10 (Stringer Bell,
paraffin
, Vifam, eep, redFF,
Mysterio
, trekker, sorgster, David Xanatos, TheAwesomeAll)

I wish I replaced before N1 started because uncledaphne was basically lolnewbtown. I'm not going to rant on the past though, I'm too annoyed to do that.

I'm doubtful that Stringer Bell is scum. Let's get that out of the way. Scum leading a wagon like this is pretty risky. I need to check if he started the wagon though. If he did, then it stays the same. If he didn't, the one who did start it and may, or may not, depending on if he's on the wagon, be scum. I need to check though.

I'll need a read through of everyone else though.

Like I said though, I'm deadset on lynching someone on this wagon.

This is clear opportunity by scum seeing that it was basically the only wagon of the day, so I remember.

People were on a wagon for me after I got confused as TAA said I sold out uncledaphne. The only other thing TAA did was hammer after he voted for me.

sorgster · Post Post #356 (isolation #39) » Fri Aug 26, 2011 12:28 pm

eep wrote:
Hiraki wrote:I'm doubtful that Stringer Bell is scum. Let's get that out of the way. Scum leading a wagon like this is pretty risky. I need to check if he started the wagon though. If he did, then it stays the same. If he didn't, the one who did start it and may, or may not, depending on if he's on the wagon, be scum. I need to check though.
iirc Stringer was the first VOTE on daphne, but that was during RVS and he just never switched off. He's not at the top of my suspicion list but I wouldn't clear him off just yet. Paraffin was the first one to vote for daphne in a more wagony way, but this doesn't help us.

Also, there was sort of a demi-wagon (of like 3 people. tremi-wagon?) on sorgster at one point, and then I think on Vifam?

Vifam started the votes on sorgster, and Paraffin started the votes on Vifam here. daphne seconded paraffin. After a lot of fluffy discussion, paraffin changed his vote to daphne and Vifam quickly followed suite. And generally started agreeing with paraffin thereafter. Yes, daphne was actually suspicious, but something about the timing here is striking me as really odd.

Despite his earlier aggressive stance, Vifam hasn't really been all that firm with initiating accusations since sorgster
. So, for now, VOTE: Vifam.

Also,
FoS: rainman
for lounging around telling us why he doesn't think anyone's suspicious and never casting a serious vote.

Who else,other than me, has vifam initiated accusations on anyways? Daphne did too many scummy things. He had to get lynched.

sorgster · Post Post #367 (isolation #40) » Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:03 pm

eep wrote:Also, sorgster, you seem to be very intent on repeatedly going for the inactive AntB instead of doing any real scumhunting on the active players. Not saying that AntB is in the clear or whatever, but any reason why?

@Vifam, fair enough. I'm not saying that it's a good idea to just gun down the first suspicion that comes to mind and ignore all the other players, I just wasn't sure why you changed playstyle.

That being said, I feel like you started doing that halfway through day 1, so I'll keep my vote where it is for now.

Because he is confirmed but refuses to post? If you don't vote them, they may watch the thread and say absolutely nothing or only say fluff like nunez.

sorgster · Post Post #375 (isolation #41) » Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:49 pm

redFF wrote:Honestly, the people who led the lynch look townier than the people that jumped on it with bad reasoning. A couple of things;

sorgster wrote:
Unvote
Vote:Daphne

I agree I overreacted a bit to the first post.

this l-1 vote is scummy as fuck imo.

TheAwesomeAll wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: Daphne
if daphne flips red we have to
look at sorgster
,
if he doesnt i think redFF is scum.

honestly this just looks like he knew daphne was town and he was setting up an fos on me.
And a reasonless hammer citing basically a lynch for information.

VOTE: theawesomeall

He also wanted me to get mislynched next, before he took you out red.Also, in the sign up thread, TAA claimed he got vigilante, and the game will be over by the third day/night phase.
I think he is godfather or whatever and plans to finish off the town by then.

Unvote
Vote Theawesomeall

Fos everyone who has posted yet/only posted fluff.

sorgster · Post Post #386 (isolation #42) » Fri Aug 26, 2011 6:23 pm

Nunez wrote:Guys, what if we each stand in a corner and don't sleep until help arrives, this is the only way to insure our survival.

Unvote
Vote Nunez

He's done absolutely nothign at all except post unimportant, unrelated to the game, fluff.

sorgster · Post Post #388 (isolation #43) » Fri Aug 26, 2011 7:20 pm

To put pressure on someone because they were claiming only me or someone else can be scum if daphne turned scum and vifam couldn't be responsible at all. I returned later but that move was to force pressure.

sorgster · Post Post #404 (isolation #44) » Sat Aug 27, 2011 9:25 am

StevieT92 wrote:Uncledaphne, you deserved to be lynched based off your play. You have nobody to blame but yourself.

The person who jumps out at me for being the most scummy yesterday is Sorgster. Not for getting on the wagon, but the fact that he does it for weak reasons and also tried to cover his own ass saying he overreacted.
UD wasn't a bad lynch based on his play, but sorgster didn't even seem to be concerned
with that. For that reason,
vote: Sorgster

I know I promised a long post but I'm gonna procrastinate it.

What do you mean? I voted for him and brought him to l-1.

sorgster · Post Post #406 (isolation #45) » Sat Aug 27, 2011 10:23 am

sorgster wrote:
uncledaphne wrote:
TheRainMan wrote:I hope you're not trying to drag me down with you T_T but stickin by my posts.

Well sorry friend. If everything goes along with Vifams plan he'll
quicklynch me then try to blame you as my partner

Par, vifam tried to get a quicklynch on sorg for a minuscule reason. Look how many votes I have on myself. Mainly because I couldnt change my vote because I couldnt bold on my phone. You might as well quicklynch my
cell phone while your at it

Trekker your uhh statement when you tried to explain why you were voting for me. Why did you say that?

Scumslip? look at the bolded part. We find out your role after you get eliminated. So to blame someone as their partner, they would first find out their role.

I forgot to bold my vote btw.

Unvote

Vote uncledaphne

#225

I then unvoted to put pressure on trekker and jumped on the bandwagon a bit after that.

sorgster · Post Post #423 (isolation #46) » Sun Aug 28, 2011 11:35 am

StevieT92 wrote:
Hiraki wrote:There's two people on Nunez, one who has made it clear I have no want to lynch Nunez, and one who hasn't.

Why is it now a lynch?

I don't think it should be our lynch TODAY, but clearly if nunez contines his pattern of posting he deserves to be killed.

StevieT92 wrote:
eep wrote:HEY SOMEONE

VOTE FOR ME

Fos: eep

don't get this at all. Post something productive, this is not it.

So you vote for someone who is not posting anything productive like nunez but are saying we shouldn't vote nunez for him to be lynched?

sorgster · Post Post #436 (isolation #47) » Sun Aug 28, 2011 2:36 pm

UNVOTE: /UNVOTE:
VOTE: Eep

What's the cool thing that's going to happen? I'm really interested.

sorgster · Post Post #443 (isolation #48) » Sun Aug 28, 2011 3:47 pm

redFF wrote:
sorgster wrote:UNVOTE: /UNVOTE:
VOTE: Eep

What's the cool thing that's going to happen? I'm really interested.

man alll u do is jump on shitty bandwagons with terrible reasoning and i think you might be mafia.

Just like I jumped on the nunez bandwagon? I was the first to vote for him before hiraki btw.

sorgster · Post Post #452 (isolation #49) » Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:46 pm

Daybid wrote:
trekker wrote:
sorgster wrote:
redFF wrote:
sorgster wrote:UNVOTE: /UNVOTE:
VOTE: Eep

What's the cool thing that's going to happen? I'm really interested.

man alll u do is jump on shitty bandwagons with terrible reasoning and i think you might be mafia.

Just like I jumped on the nunez bandwagon? I was the first to vote for him before hiraki btw.

you've jumped on two wagons with little to no reasoning; the first one disagreeing with your previous reasoning and the current one having poor reasoning

Bandwagoner.. very scummy, having no real reason and just someone who wants to get someone lynched.

VOTE: sorgster

I showed my reasoning for the first wagon, the second was because something cool was supposed to happen. I started the Nunez wagon too.

sorgster · Post Post #457 (isolation #50) » Mon Aug 29, 2011 4:12 am

sorgster wrote:
uncledaphne wrote:
TheRainMan wrote:I hope you're not trying to drag me down with you T_T but stickin by my posts.

Well sorry friend. If everything goes along with Vifams plan he'll
quicklynch me then try to blame you as my partner

Par, vifam tried to get a quicklynch on sorg for a minuscule reason. Look how many votes I have on myself. Mainly because I couldnt change my vote because I couldnt bold on my phone. You might as well quicklynch my
cell phone while your at it

Trekker your uhh statement when you tried to explain why you were voting for me. Why did you say that?

Scumslip? look at the bolded part. We find out your role after you get eliminated. So to blame someone as their partner, they would first find out their role.

I forgot to bold my vote btw.

Unvote

Vote uncledaphne

This was my reasoning for this vote

sorgster wrote:
TheAwesomeAll wrote:you sold out uncledaphne

vote sorgster

redFF might also be scum.

What in the world are you saying? This makes no sense at all.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: TheAwesomeAll

This was just out of rvs

sorgster wrote:
trekker wrote:If daphne is town we need to pay attention to sorgster and redFF tomorrow.

Unvote

Vote Trekker

You seem to be sheeping Vifam and trying to get rid of all suspicion from her. Sounds like buddying/sheeping to me. You two might be working together for all I know.

Jumping out of a bandwagon to attack someone else

sorgster wrote:
Nunez wrote:Guys, what if we each stand in a corner and don't sleep until help arrives, this is the only way to insure our survival.

Unvote
Vote Nunez

He's done absolutely nothign at all except post unimportant, unrelated to the game, fluff.

Starting this one

sorgster wrote:UNVOTE: /UNVOTE:
VOTE: Eep

What's the cool thing that's going to happen? I'm really interested.

Curiosity about the ''cool'' thing.

I've jumped on two bandwagons. I've voted independently as well.

sorgster · Post Post #465 (isolation #51) » Mon Aug 29, 2011 7:58 am

Unvote
Vote Nunez

Done nothing but post random stuff. Does not scumhunt at all or participate in the events. Seems scummy.

sorgster · Post Post #466 (isolation #52) » Mon Aug 29, 2011 8:00 am

Also, I'm being attacked for jumping on bandwagons. I've given my OWN reasons for each thing I've jumped on and every vote I've made. Many ppl, like therainman, have done nothing BUT jump onto bandwagons.

sorgster · Post Post #468 (isolation #53) » Mon Aug 29, 2011 8:31 am

TheRainMan wrote:
Vote Vifam

The majority of his posts to me seem to either attack people for reasons which I can't really ever deem to be called "scummy". Also his comment about AntB was what pinged me the most. He asks someone to give a recap of what they thought. Everyone's thinking the same thing about daphne and he was in the spot for 90% of day 1. Asking someone to recap Day 1 and not expecting them to mention Daphne? And then claiming that they are trying to look town by doing so just looks like you're trying to put them in a no win situation.

TheRainMan wrote:Nunez lynch won't provide any information because he hasn't even said anything.. What do we get out of it? Nothing. Zilch. Now that he's showed up though I think we'd all appreciate it if he would stop dicking around. If he's got a PR then he would've at least said something constructive.

I'm down with voting Sorgster though.

sorgster · Post Post #482 (isolation #54) » Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:05 am

Stringer Bell wrote:
redFF wrote:ebwop: why do you thnk nunez is town?

I assume that's directed toward me. I just don't think that scum would act like this and bring that sort of attention to themselves.

To AntB: I'm sorry, I forgot that you were gone.. I have my vote on you because you were being completely non-committal and basically had nothing productive to say. To me, it looked like you were just trying to get by and stay under the radar, just as a scum would do. If you come back from V/LA and you start playing more townie, then I'll be happy to take my vote off.

But nunez's neutralness is forcing him to stay suspicious but not enough to get lynched, which is a good thing for him if he is scum.

sorgster · Post Post #490 (isolation #55) » Mon Aug 29, 2011 12:48 pm

Stringer Bell wrote:
sorgster wrote:
Stringer Bell wrote:
redFF wrote:ebwop: why do you thnk nunez is town?

I assume that's directed toward me. I just don't think that scum would act like this and bring that sort of attention to themselves.

To AntB: I'm sorry, I forgot that you were gone.. I have my vote on you because you were being completely non-committal and basically had nothing productive to say. To me, it looked like you were just trying to get by and stay under the radar, just as a scum would do. If you come back from V/LA and you start playing more townie, then I'll be happy to take my vote off.

But nunez's neutralness is forcing him to stay suspicious but not enough to get lynched, which is a good thing for him if he is scum.

But if he is scum, think of the risk involved? If people take it the wrong way, he would be lynched D1 and that would be a huge blow to his scum team. That's the reason I think he's town, because as a scum it would foolish to play like that. As a scum, you just want to fit in and not draw much attention to yourself, whereas he is doing the direct opposite. He's made like four or five posts the whole game and yet we've been discussing his play on seemingly every page.

True but even if he gets lynched no one would have any idea who in the world his teammates are and it becomes a guessing game. I guess that is true about the fitting in.

Unvote

sorgster · Post Post #504 (isolation #56) » Mon Aug 29, 2011 6:09 pm

Another person who is completely attracting no attention at all and slipping under the radar. After role pms were sent out, he claimed vig on the other place. What exactly is a neghborizer anyways?

sorgster · Post Post #523 (isolation #57) » Tue Aug 30, 2011 8:02 am

Hiraki wrote:

uncledaphne
- 10 (Stringer Bell,
paraffin
, Vifam, eep, redFF,
Mysterio
, trekker, sorgster, David Xanatos, TheAwesomeAll)
This is clear opportunity by scum seeing that it was basically the only wagon of the day, so I remember.

There should be at least 1-2 scum here. Who is the most suspicious here? I'm going for TAA. Yes this is about the vig claim in the sign up thread.

Vote TAA

sorgster · Post Post #581 (isolation #58) » Wed Aug 31, 2011 12:30 pm

David Xanatos wrote:And when David flips Town?

Does DavidTown = VifamScum and
Mastin
Scum?

I think it does. :3

Mastin isn't in this game the last time I checked. Who did you mean to put other than mastin though? trekker?

sorgster · Post Post #584 (isolation #59) » Wed Aug 31, 2011 12:46 pm

trekker wrote:the vifam wagon is retarded though

trekker wrote:
paraffin wrote:VOTE: vifam for poor scumhunting

VOTE: paraffin

Voting someone because they voted vifam, kind of sheeping.

trekker wrote:Vifam isn't mafia because
he's my friend
.

Horrible reasoning.

trekker wrote:uh

im voting for you because you made a chainsaw defense for sorgster and then you made terrible pushes, like saying redFF was scum because he agreed with
vifam
. you're not acting towny @all

trekker wrote:Where's the mindless agreement?
I never said
that I was sheeping Vifam.

This is a lot of sheeping. Also for the last quote, why would he have to say he was sheeping vifam? That's exactly what he is doing.

trekker wrote:nunez is a useless townie

trekker wrote:Why is everyone voting Nunez? He comes off as more unexperienced than scummy to me.

trekker wrote:Nunez has a post restriction

He is also defending nunez a bit.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Trekker

sorgster · Post Post #604 (isolation #60) » Wed Aug 31, 2011 2:26 pm

David Xanatos wrote:VOTE: David Xanatos

Come at me bro. When I flip Town, I look forward to seeing your lynch.

Self voting? Are you trying to get yourself lynched? Could there be a jester in this game? Could he be scum who is suspicious and making a bold gamble?
I heard that selfvoting is an antitown thing someone could do in newbie guides,etc.

Therefore

Unvote
Vote David Xanatos

sorgster · Post Post #608 (isolation #61) » Wed Aug 31, 2011 3:02 pm

redFF wrote:
sorgster wrote:
David Xanatos wrote:VOTE: David Xanatos

Come at me bro. When I flip Town, I look forward to seeing your lynch.

Self voting? Are you trying to get yourself lynched? Could there be a jester in this game? Could he be scum who is suspicious and making a bold gamble?
I heard that selfvoting is an antitown thing someone could do in newbie guides,etc.

Therefore

Unvote
Vote David Xanatos

and you are also mafia sir.

If there's a cop, hurry up and investigate me then. I'm not scum.

sorgster · Post Post #623 (isolation #62) » Wed Aug 31, 2011 3:38 pm

sorgster · Post Post #632 (isolation #63) » Wed Aug 31, 2011 4:16 pm

David Xanatos wrote:Jingle Jangle Hee Hee Ha Ha.

Self voting is only anti-town if you have something to lose, I don't.

I claim VT.

@MOD: Is it only those on my wagon I can affect, or anyone in-game?

He claims vt here

David Xanatos wrote:Sorgster stop what Trekker?

Wishing you had Daytalk?

Pity I
don't have more rounds
, I'd love to nail you all day one..

then claims he can kill ppl or something. An obv contradiction.

sorgster · Post Post #675 (isolation #64) » Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:39 am

Vote:TAA

He hasn't done much other than attack me.

sorgster · Post Post #698 (isolation #65) » Mon Sep 05, 2011 7:12 am

AntB is a treestump? I think he seems more like 3rd party or scum.

Unvote
Vote AntB

sorgster · Post Post #708 (isolation #66) » Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:48 am

The way antb mentioned treestump is strange. Also vifam posts way too much and actively scumhunts. It seems very likely that vifam is town.

sorgster · Post Post #726 (isolation #67) » Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:35 pm

In post 708, sorgster wrote:The way antb mentioned treestump is strange. Also vifam posts way too much and actively scumhunts. It seems very likely that vifam is town.

I wonder how such a small post like that can change an opinion so quickly. I wonder how that changes me from town to scum at once.

sorgster · Post Post #745 (isolation #68) » Tue Sep 06, 2011 1:38 am

In post 743, AntB wrote:Vifam in brief
Has spent more time attacking players based on others evidence and dismissed all attempts to form a wagon on him.
Has linked himself in with trekker and redFF throughout the game.
Look at the voting pattern near the close of D2.

Vifam -> David Xanatos -> The "Curious" vote.

Vifam -> TheRainMan -> ???

Vifam -> David Xanatos -> ???

Vifam -> AntB -> ???

Vifam -> David Xanatos -> ???

Vifam -> AntB -> ???

Vifam -> David Xanatos -> Thats the hammer

Blatently hammers David Xanatos, is present on both lynch wagons pushing the "He's an idiot" angle, pushing sorgster for being and idiot and is now seemingly trying to push it on me as well. Vifam screams of pushing easy mislynches.

More later.[/quote]

Xanatos was dead either way. He decided to defeat himself.

sorgster · Post Post #747 (isolation #69) » Tue Sep 06, 2011 3:13 am

But it wasn't vifam that pushed him to the self voting point. At that point, he had already given up.

sorgster · Post Post #752 (isolation #70) » Tue Sep 06, 2011 3:37 am

In post 751, AntB wrote:Vifam didn't push so much at that point, but NO votes he made on David had any obvious reasoning.In fact, the only reason I can discern at all was for David Xanatos "Curious" vote.

@HIraki
I'll push him all I want dude. And I'll laugh when he flips scum.

After the curious votes on david X, he decided to suicide himself pretty much. He said he was doomed either way. Please stop tunnelling.

sorgster · Post Post #793 (isolation #71) » Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:32 am

Seems like nocase has been viewing the thread, posted right after implosion prodded him. Strange. He has only made 3 posts so far this entire game too.

sorgster · Post Post #797 (isolation #72) » Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:45 am

In post 795, nocase wrote:there's scum between stringer bell, therainman, and daybid, so let's get on with it.

You need to add yourself to that list. You haven't posted much.

sorgster · Post Post #818 (isolation #73) » Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:53 am

Unvote

Vote Daybird

Going to make you talk. Anyone want to help?

sorgster · Post Post #822 (isolation #74) » Thu Sep 08, 2011 10:21 am

In post 821, Vifam wrote:Damm it why can't we lynch Anbtb?

I have no idea. He is easily the most scumlike player here. I heard scum tend to be harder to lynch than townies. His scumbuddies deflect attention. This time to stringer bell who semms town to me.

sorgster · Post Post #826 (isolation #75) » Thu Sep 08, 2011 10:56 am

It was before. Moving it away for a real life day or two or more if daybird stays scummy.

sorgster · Post Post #839 (isolation #76) » Fri Sep 09, 2011 8:19 am

In post 838, AntB wrote:OK, all you who think I'm todays lynchmeat...

Who are my buddies and why? Assume 3 buddies.

3 buddies? Why must there be 4 scum?

sorgster · Post Post #849 (isolation #77) » Fri Sep 09, 2011 12:33 pm

In post 845, AntB wrote:Yeah but it'll help for after I flip to see
who associates who with me
....

Hiraki, you better hit scum dude... UNVOTE: Vifam VOTE: redFF

That strikes me as scummy.

sorgster · Post Post #882 (isolation #78) » Fri Sep 09, 2011 6:14 pm

In post 875, trekker wrote:
In post 860, SodaSpirit17 wrote:okay done. main targets, AntB,trekker,Vifam,Hiraki,Uprising and Eep. Stevie looks like crap too. But not a main target.
VOTE: AntB

Soda, why did you vote on AntB out of all of those? Why am I on your list?

I think it was most to least scummy from left to right. He didn`t list all the active players. Redff isn`t on there. Neither am I. Uprising isn`t superactive. Neither was his mention of Stevie.

sorgster · Post Post #897 (isolation #79) » Sat Sep 10, 2011 7:42 am

I've played a game with ss17 before. Somehow, his actions don't seem scummy to me.

sorgster · Post Post #899 (isolation #80) » Sat Sep 10, 2011 10:21 am

Your actions here are similar to yours in the newbie game. You put about the same percentage of ppl as scummy in both games. I also don't feel like tunneling 3 pages on you again.

sorgster · Post Post #902 (isolation #81) » Sat Sep 10, 2011 11:39 am

Daybird's still silent after my vote on him. Almost 5 days without a post now.

Unvote
Vote AntB

He is at l-2. 2 more then we can lynch him.

sorgster · Post Post #905 (isolation #82) » Sat Sep 10, 2011 12:54 pm

In post 904, redFF wrote:
In post 840, redFF wrote:how many scum are there sorgster?

you never answered, just ignored. How many scum do you think there are? I think it was scummy to just not even respond to this post.

That was a serious question? It's scummy not to respond to that? Don't make me laugh. Especially as I gave the answer the post right before it.

sorgster · Post Post #906 (isolation #83) » Sat Sep 10, 2011 12:56 pm

Ebwop: Also the original question was how many scum are there? The second question asks for an opinion.

sorgster · Post Post #909 (isolation #84) » Sun Sep 11, 2011 3:58 am

He hasn't been posting much other than fluff

sorgster · Post Post #910 (isolation #85) » Sun Sep 11, 2011 3:59 am

EBwop:I mean his two first post and his huge post more than anything else have had nothing in them.

sorgster · Post Post #933 (isolation #86) » Sun Sep 11, 2011 2:55 pm

Vifam's last post was an hour ago. They don't need to post every hour regardless of if they are online.

sorgster · Post Post #948 (isolation #87) » Mon Sep 12, 2011 10:38 am

AntB needs to die. He sounds like scum to me.

sorgster · Post Post #951 (isolation #88) » Mon Sep 12, 2011 11:08 am

In post 949, eep wrote:goddamnit, i find all of the people who are gunning for antb suspicious except for vifam, so i don't really want to vote him

but then i also find uprising suspicious and antb insists that he's town

i don't know what to do anymore

I hate how everyone is trying to quickwagon sodaspirit. AntB has played scummy enough on his part. The only way we are going to guarentee scum is a cop result or a scumslip. As both are unlikely, we can never be 100% sure so lynch the most suspicious. In this case, it is AntB. I will be very happy if he is scum.

sorgster · Post Post #954 (isolation #89) » Mon Sep 12, 2011 11:58 am

In post 953, eep wrote:sorgster i find you way more suspicious than antb, why should i vote for him?

also, hiraki and trekker are probably my biggest town reads, so if they don't find him suspicious i doubly don't want to vote for him

Assuming they are both town, why would they always go on scum? They could hit scum instead. So what you are saying is that you will sheep hiraki and trekker and not go after anyone they don't find suspicious. Strange.

sorgster · Post Post #956 (isolation #90) » Mon Sep 12, 2011 11:59 am

ebwop: I meant they could hit town instead*.

sorgster · Post Post #957 (isolation #91) » Mon Sep 12, 2011 12:00 pm

In post 955, SodaSpirit17 wrote:sorgster what did i tell you about the word scumslip....

Don't use it? I haven't been using it have I? Other than for uncledaphne.

sorgster · Post Post #962 (isolation #92) » Mon Sep 12, 2011 12:54 pm

In post 958, Uprising wrote:UNVOTE: SS17

Apparently it's scummy for me to vote him.

Red, why am I scum? Why are you *so sure*? You've said that you're calling it now on several people.

That exchange between sorgster and SS17 just before my post feels... odd to me. It almost feels like coaching to me, but that *should* happen in their QT, no?
Just my thoughts on what is currently happening.

He's told me to not say scumslip again in the other game I played with him as I said someone scumslipped about 50 times in that game.

sorgster · Post Post #963 (isolation #93) » Mon Sep 12, 2011 12:57 pm

Ebwop: Also, since soda is a replacement how could this conversation have been in the qt if we were both scum?

sorgster · Post Post #983 (isolation #94) » Tue Sep 13, 2011 2:06 pm

In post 958, Uprising wrote:UNVOTE: SS17

Apparently it's scummy for me to vote him.

Red, why am I scum? Why are you *so sure*? You've said that you're calling it now on several people.

So unvoting someone just because someone else called you scummy because of that vote? Strange. Very strange.

sorgster · Post Post #989 (isolation #95) » Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:45 am

Eep, why are you trying so hard to find a counterwagon to antb?

sorgster · Post Post #994 (isolation #96) » Wed Sep 14, 2011 9:21 am

In post 992, eep wrote:
In post 989, sorgster wrote:Eep, why are you trying so hard to find a counterwagon to antb?

because no one's made a convincing case against antb and I'd like to vote someone who I actually find suspicious?

if you're trying to goad me into voting for him, it won't work.

Then why don't you make a convincing case against someone?

The case about antb is simple: He is posting little other than fluff.

sorgster · Post Post #995 (isolation #97) » Wed Sep 14, 2011 9:22 am

EBWOP: You and uprising have started posting a lot more recently ever since antb was getting attacked. Personally you and uprising are #2 and #3 in my scum reads.

sorgster · Wed Sep 14, 2011 10:20 am

In post 999, eep wrote:yeah, that's a typo

also, sorgster, want a case? why's stringer bell buddying me instead of scumhunting?

I rarely see him post. Also didn't you say you were buddying the two people you saw as town? Might not exactly be buddying but very close to it. Make a case then on each of the ppl u find suspicious and why. Use quotes to support your reasoning.

sorgster · Wed Sep 14, 2011 11:04 am

In post 1002, TheAwesomeAll wrote:also there are way more occasions you felt the need to express your concerns about my alignment to us, dont be shy.
also
hiraki is considered a good player
?

That question is quite strange imo.

sorgster · Wed Sep 14, 2011 11:15 am

In post 838, AntB wrote:OK, all you who think I'm todays lynchmeat...

Who are my buddies and why? Assume 3 buddies.

He said assume 3 buddies. Why would this be. Is he saying there are 4 scum? He's posted a lot of fluff and hasn't brought any new information to here.

sorgster · Wed Sep 14, 2011 12:49 pm

Antb's huge posts have had nothing but fluff.

sorgster · Wed Sep 14, 2011 2:09 pm

The only other player that seems like scum to me are(most from left to right): TAA,redff,uprising,eep,

sorgster · Wed Sep 14, 2011 2:46 pm

Yeah, I used the word other players. By other I meant other than antb.

sorgster · Wed Sep 14, 2011 2:52 pm

I don't know. Mostly gut I guess. TAA has been giving me a scummy feeling from the start including what he said on the sign up thread shortly after roles were counted, which doesn't count for much though.

sorgster · Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:30 pm

I think I can make a proper case against Taa but it is pretty late and I'll do it tommorow.

sorgster · Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:45 am

In post 1029, AntB wrote:screw swype, get 8pen

@Sorgster
You only just think you can make a case on someone?! Sorry but even newbies aren't that bad.

@Vifam
Welcome back... glad to see you're still pinging my scumdar.

I have a case on you. Someone posted it earlier. I made a case against taa before but you guys said it wasn't enough, etc, etc.

sorgster · Thu Sep 15, 2011 9:05 am

Vote Hiraki

I refuse.

sorgster · Fri Sep 16, 2011 8:26 am

Unvote
Vote RedFF

Post some content and hurry up.

sorgster · Fri Sep 16, 2011 8:57 am

In post 1089, eep wrote:we just aren't agreeing on anyone today, are we?

who are people's top 3 scumreads?

Redff,AntB,TAA

sorgster · Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:53 pm

Unvote
Vote Soda

sorgster · Fri Sep 16, 2011 1:25 pm

That first quote(you accidently lynched), sounds quite strange. Instructions from one scum to their buddy? Asking someone to sheep you when they are suspicous.

sorgster · Fri Sep 16, 2011 4:14 pm

In post 1118, SodaSpirit17 wrote:sorgster I don't entirely understand your vote on me and Vifam it seems like you're just hopping onto the bandwagon unless you can give me a reason.

I don't see why everyone is convinced I'm scum. Like really. All I've been doing this game is giving my opinions and answering everyone's questions... over Uprising who tbqh hasn't done jack crap.

1.You have done as much as uprising
2. You are just answering questions/not providing much new information
3.#1103 sounded extremely strange to me.

sorgster · Sat Sep 17, 2011 5:16 am

If Soda flips scum, then(to my great suprise) AntB should be town and Trekker should be scum.

sorgster · Sat Sep 17, 2011 5:45 am

In post 1103, trekker wrote:SodaSpirit, sheep me.

In post 1124, SodaSpirit17 wrote:Holy... crap.
Trekker and Stringer Bell are mason buddies confirmed.

And antb was one of the first to att ss17.

sorgster · Sat Sep 17, 2011 9:14 am

In post 1140, SodaSpirit17 wrote:sorgster you have nothing against me! That was trekkers goddamn post.

And i never claimed, and I kinda don't want to coz I'd probably die tonight, so doctor, if you're there you know what to do. You just have to trust me.

And that mason thing was just a joke.

I'm saying you two are working together as scum. The ''joke'' was completely crazy.

sorgster · Sat Sep 17, 2011 12:04 pm

In post 1152, SodaSpirit17 wrote:lol you'll have to rely on the 13 towards town unless if you want to lynch one of the towns most valuable assets.

I'm serious doc, please protect me tonight. I'm probably going down.

This is more than a soft claim isn't it?

sorgster · Sat Sep 17, 2011 4:05 pm

What new things has trekker brought to this game or is he just actively lurking?

sorgster · Sat Sep 17, 2011 4:11 pm

He sounds like a lyncher stringer bell. He's going after you like crazy without any reasons. I didn't see any reason other than past metas for uprising's view on trekker. I highly think trekker's scum.

sorgster · Sun Sep 18, 2011 2:07 am

In post 1165, SodaSpirit17 wrote:The darker the red, the scummier they are, orangeish ones are null the darker they are the closer to scum and then the lighter they are the closer to town if its orange than they're completely null and since we can't be using green(tiz a shame) blue= town turquoise=super town. Once the names are orangeish, I'm not really pushing their lynch today.

HERE WEEEEEEE GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

AntB- scummy ass fucker who's been lurking the whole time, and yet somehow getting away with it
Uprising-have been lurking p. much the whole time, hasn't really made reads on people until asked to, has been calling people out but not explaining why until asked to do so
Hiraki- Oh gosh. This guy is making bold statements and being really aggressive, and he's trying way too hard to be town. And is being a nuisance more than an asset

StevieT92- Has been really quiet hasn't supported JACK CRAP he's done and isn't really scumhunting, just hopping on wagons and trying to make people not even notice him.
nocase- Biggest read out of all the inactives. Out of his five posts two votes and then he's like "okay so weeeeeee heee heee heee can pick between daybid, stringer bell or the rainman, but iiiiiiiii will not not give my reasoning. *vanish*" This looks really crappy for him.

eep- i dont know if its indecisiveness or buddying towards p. much EVERYONE in the game, she's changed her vote moore times than i can count on my fingers AND toes
Vifam- went from really active to really damn quiet... never a good sign. ever ever veveverevefrver.

Daybid/Battousai- Can't really give a real read, Daybid did nothing and Battousai is still reading so yea.
trekker- I really have no fucking clue where I stand with him. He's so persistent about Stringer's lynch yet he was one of my scumreads earlier

Stringer Bell- Despite what most people are saying, I think he's town, he's put up good points, good cases and good defense against the arrows thrown at him.
TheAwesomeAll- his posts seem pretty genuine, but I would like to see alot more from him.

redFF- If you aren't gonna listen to me, listen to him, because this guy knows what's up
sorgster- I've played with him before, same behavior, probably gonna be the same flip because I thought he was scum a good portion of the game
SodaSpirit17- well duh.

Bar the color tier, the rankings are in no particular order, but I want Uprising dead. If you can't read the turquoise, highlight it.

Daybid/battousai has done pretty much the same as nocase but one seems more scummier to you than the other. Redff has been posting a ton of fluff. Look at hiraki's iso on him.

sorgster · Sun Sep 18, 2011 8:15 am

Unvote
Vote Trekker

I will give as much reasoning as you did for your stringer bell tunnelling

sorgster · Mon Sep 19, 2011 9:11 am

I know this is a noob question but what does a bodyguard do? Does he protect a townie from getting lynched and die if the person they protected r scum? Is ss17 at l-1 or l-2 atm?

sorgster · Mon Sep 19, 2011 9:43 am

In post 1206, sorgster wrote:I know this is a noob question but what does a bodyguard do? Does he protect a townie from getting lynched and die if the person they protected r scum? Is ss17 at l-1 or l-2 atm?

Please answer someone.

sorgster · Mon Sep 19, 2011 10:15 am

and the bodyguard needs a ton of protection? ss17 claimed way to early and I doubt scum would counterclaim at this point in the game. Therefore

Unvote
Vote SS17

sorgster · Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:39 pm

We have a chance I'm guessing, game isn't finished yet. We must hit scum now though.

sorgster · Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:44 pm

Vote Stringer bell

Why? There was

One

kill last night and now you are talking about a vig kill.

sorgster · Thu Sep 22, 2011 2:17 pm

He was bodyguard? Counterclaiming in day three in a game this large is not likely to be a scum taking a risk. Scum would know for sure he is a bodyguard.

sorgster · Fri Sep 23, 2011 11:18 am

In post 1260, eep wrote:oh my god.

i was sitting here wondering what you were talking about, and then i realized that I just totally forgot about nunez.

sorry about that, hurrrg.

Nunez? he was nked.

sorgster · Sat Sep 24, 2011 12:27 am

Finally TAA is getting lynched.

Vote TAA

sorgster · Sat Sep 24, 2011 1:23 am

In post 1282, TheAwesomeAll wrote:town was so terrible this game, it makes me sad :/
gratz to scum for winning, im calling
eep sorgster antbB

The town are terrible but we can still win this starting with a lynch of you.

sorgster · Sat Sep 24, 2011 1:24 am

Ebwop:12 alive 4 scum(belief of many). We aren't doomed.

sorgster · Sat Sep 24, 2011 9:28 am

Hiraki he claimed vig in the pre-game thread which I had stated more than once on here before.Unfortunately you guys didn't think pre-game stuff mattered. If he really is vig,and after my few insistences, then why have not the scum killed him yet? Hmm let's think and state the obvious.

sorgster · Sun Sep 25, 2011 2:10 am

3rd party sk, that is as bad as scum TAA. Just die.

sorgster · Sun Sep 25, 2011 3:42 am

I highly doubt there would be 4 scum and serial killer in this game. Way too few people for that. If my counting is correct you must be at l-1 TAA. Also, why is vifam so silent recently?

sorgster · Sun Sep 25, 2011 6:15 am

TAA who have u targeted so farÉ

sorgster · Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:09 am

Vote Battousai

sorgster · Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:36 am

batt hasn't posted much in this game, scum seems like inactives to me.

sorgster · Wed Sep 28, 2011 3:01 pm

I think it is about time we role claim with so few left and share known results,etc. Does anyone else agree? This could be our last day phase if there are only 4 scum

sorgster · Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:57 am

In post 1332, StevieT92 wrote:i disagree ... we don't need to give the scum any help on who to shoot at this point, and i don't see us necessarily catching scum right away

At this point, there should be 4 scum and 6 normal people. If we fail today, it is game over.

sorgster · Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:27 am

I've heard it mentioned before here. Shoud means it has a good chance to, not that it is for sure.

sorgster · Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:41 am

I'm not sure tbh. Three or four, we need scum dead today.

sorgster · Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:52 am

In post 1339, Battousai wrote:Sorgster is scum, simple as that. I mean look at his vote on me. OMGUS. He tries to explain that away as me not being active, but when I'm active (day I replaced in I was rereading and day ended before I could post) yesterday I was fairly active. Yes I had only 5 out of 80 some posts (average would be 7 something posts per person), but of those 5, there were no fluff. Sorgster had 3, maybe 4 (depending on what you consider fluff) actual posts yesterday. Then today he goes after me instead of nocase slot. CSL replaced in and has failed to post (not even a I'm here and reading post). If the whole reason for voting me was because he thought inactives = scum, then he should have voted CSL.

Another point is that he calls for mass claim and at the same time tries to tell us there are 4 scum. That doesn't mix well. I mean, if there are 4 scum (not to add credence to there actually being 4) mass claim is the worst thing town can do. If you believe there are 4 scum, t
hen you should be calling for no lynch
and not voting players or going for a mass claim (4 scum, 6 town = mylo). He probably thinks that since 4 scum was brought up yesterday, going for a mass claim before mylo is brought up will help scum eliminate any PR that may hurt them in lylo tomorrow.

Sorgster is scum, simple as that. I'm very confident in this.

Are you crazy? 4 scum, 6 town. If there is a no vote, then 4 on 5 next phase. Chance of winning isn't as much. Very bad right now anyways. I'm claiming one shot recruiting mason. I recruited vifam night one who is a vt.

sorgster · Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:55 am

ebwop:It was a counter vote. Do an iso of me then. How am I posting fluff?

sorgster · Thu Sep 29, 2011 11:31 am

In post 1344, eep wrote:huh, if this is true, then we have a lot of double roles

sorgster, what is the mechanism of your role? were you mod-informed about vifam's alliance?

No. I recruited a player. If they weren't pro town, I would die. Vifam told me in the qt he is a vt.

sorgster · Fri Sep 30, 2011 8:19 am

In post 1344, eep wrote:huh, if this is true, then we have a lot of double roles

sorgster, what is the mechanism of your role? were you mod-informed about vifam's alliance?

So I'm assuming this is a mason claim. did you recruit anyone? If you did, who?

sorgster · Fri Sep 30, 2011 9:33 am

batt, can u claim? trying to get a mass one going .

sorgster · Fri Sep 30, 2011 10:56 am

In post 330, implosion wrote:

Vote Count 1.3 (final)

AntB
Vifam - 1 (
uncledaphne
)
redFF
Nunez
David Xanatos
Uprising - 1 (
TheRainMan
)
Mysterio
sorgster -
StevieT92
TheRainMan
Daybid
NihilisticNinja
TheAwesomeAll
Stinger Bell

uncledaphne - 10 (Stringer Bell,
paraffin
,
Vifam
, eep,
redFF
,
Mysterio
, trekker,
sorgster
,
David Xanatos
,
TheAwesomeAll
) (L-0)
Gaylord Focker - 1 (Daybid)
paraffin
eep - 1 (
Gaylord Focker
)
trekker
Not voting - 5 (AntB,
Nunez
, Uprising, StevieT92, NihilisticNinja)

With 19 alive, 10 votes are required to lynch.

If you
ever
notice a mistake that I've made with the votecount (or elsewhere) don't hesitate to tell me.

A lynch has been reached. Stand by for flip and flavor.

I thin that everyone on that wagon was not scum.eep, & trekker r the non confirmed ones there.

For scum then, it must be between antb,uprsing, battousai,stevie,csl

sorgster · Fri Sep 30, 2011 11:03 am

Both deaths in the first day were on the bandwagon.

sorgster · Fri Sep 30, 2011 11:05 am

I see after the first day, there was one death every night phase. I suspect scum going inactivish for some time.

sorgster · Fri Sep 30, 2011 11:22 am

blue for town. yellow for third party. the red and green was supposed to be blue too.

sorgster · Fri Sep 30, 2011 1:58 pm

I'm saying scum is from you guys from what we know. I'm assuming either TAA or scum forgot to do kills. Scum seem more likely as there is a lot of ppl who have been on and off inactive in there.

sorgster · Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:37 am

Unvote
Vote CSL

sorgster · Tue Oct 04, 2011 1:57 pm

Here who I think the scumteam is:Stevie92,CSL,uprising,antb
3 of those 4 is my guess.

Here is who is town imo:vifam,batt,

sorgster · Tue Oct 04, 2011 2:15 pm

I forgot to add trekker to that list.

Stringer bell seems to be pushed for a lynch way too much without any reason. Batt and eep are starting to give a lot of town vibes to me.I know vifam is town. AntB has always seemed scummy. Trekker is pushing too hard for a lynch of stringer bell. Uprising is a null tell. the other two are lurkers.

sorgster · Wed Oct 05, 2011 8:00 am

In post 1399, Stringer Bell wrote:
In post 1398, sorgster wrote:I forgot to add trekker to that list.

Stringer bell seems to be pushed for a lynch way too much without any reason. Batt and eep are starting to give a lot of town vibes to me.I know vifam is town. AntB has always seemed scummy. Trekker is pushing too hard for a lynch of stringer bell. Uprising is a null tell. the other two are lurkers.

I've been pushing for a lynch? I don't recall pushing any sort of lynch. I think we should take it slow, maybe massclaim if it gets too close to the deadline, but the last thing we need right now is for people to be pushing quicklynches, unless we have someone who has confirmed scum.

I meant trekker was pushing you for a lynch. That was a mistake.

sorgster · Thu Oct 06, 2011 6:32 am

In post 1403, StevieT92 wrote:i'm laughing my ass off at sorgster's reads.

May I guess it is because you are scum and I put one of your buddies in the town spot? Why else would you? Please die. You or CSL for abondoning game.

sorgster · Sat Oct 08, 2011 3:14 am

CSL hasn't been posting much, just lynch him. I think scum have got by this game by lurking.

@All, who are your top 3 scumreads and why.

sorgster · Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:47 am

In post 1396, sorgster wrote:
Here who I think the scumteam is:Stevie92,CSL,uprising,antb
3 of those 4 is my guess.

sorgster · Sun Oct 09, 2011 5:32 am

I did put 3 of the 4, with either antB OR stevie as the final scum. However if stevie flips scum, you become town.

sorgster · Sun Oct 09, 2011 9:19 am

In post 1403, StevieT92 wrote:i'm laughing my ass off at sorgster's reads.

I would be interested in knowning why.

sorgster · Mon Oct 10, 2011 1:56 am

In post 51, Stringer Bell wrote:
Vifam wrote:

sorgster wrote:
uncledaphne wrote:
TheAwesomeAll wrote:you sold out uncledaphne

vote sorgster

redFF might also be scum.

Sold out?

I guess you are the only one with basic reading comprehension Vifam. Sold out doesn't equal to getting an avatar. It made me confused. I also wasn't the only one to countervote I believe. I was confused by what he said. Not the only person here.

Now you're just deflecting, weather or not everyone OMGUS'd isn't the case here. I'm telling everyone that your vote makes you look like you have a guilty conscience.

I'm not defending anyone, this is more about focusing pressure on Sorg rather then defending TTA ( Who is null right now).

To be honest, I was just as confused as sorg seemed to be...it was sort of a strange post, in that all three lines had nothing to do with one another, I guess sorg thought that TTA thought that sorg had sold daphne out, but I'm not sure that would make any sense, we were just out of RVS and sorg hadn't done anything to warrant "selling daphne out".
Sorg must have some sort of power role
, whether it be scum or town, he clearly feels that he needs to stay alive. I'm going to hold off on voting for him, it would be terrible to get rid of a cop or doc D1. Definitely someone to keep an eye on, but we don't have enough information to make a foolproof case that he's scum.

He believes I have a power role and if he was scum, I doubt I would stay alive much after this.

sorgster · Wed Oct 12, 2011 8:24 am

we are going to wait for a mass claim. So far
Sorgster:One shot recruiting mason
Vifam:VT
EEP:VT
Batt:Hider

sorgster · Wed Oct 12, 2011 9:21 am

Stevie and CSL are scum, finish them both please.

sorgster · Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:36 am

In post 1470, StevieT92 wrote:
In post 1462, trekker wrote:I'm a
Town Rolecop.

claim results. now.

Nope. We have to wait for the remaining claims.

sorgster · Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:36 am

In post 1470, StevieT92 wrote:
In post 1462, trekker wrote:I'm a
Town Rolecop.

claim results. now.

Nope. We have to wait for the remaining claims.

sorgster · Thu Oct 13, 2011 12:52 pm

In post 1474, trekker wrote:idc Roy

Vifam is a mason
, no case is a VT, Yeesterday's lynch was a bulletproof SK (I'm assuming mafia hit him that night), and Stevie is a VT.

If a one shot recruiting mason recruits a vt, does that person become a mason?

sorgster · Thu Oct 13, 2011 1:14 pm

@Trekker, can you put when you did each of your investigations and for who?(E.G night 1-vifam,night 2,etc)

sorgster · Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:50 am

In post 1480, Stringer Bell wrote:
Claim: Town JoaT[\b]

Four one-shot abilities: Cop, Doc, Roleblock, Track

I've only used three abilities.

What I did:
N1: Did nothing. Wanted to get a better feel for the game before doing anything.
N2: Tracked Nunez, wanted to see if the reason he was being so weird had anything to do with his role. Got no action back.
N3:
Copped eep
, got back town.
N4: RB'd AntB, thought he was mafia and thought I might block a kill.

Still have a Doc left, not sure what I'm gonna do with it yet.

Eep? with trekker tunnelling you like crazy? why in the world did you not go for trekker?

sorgster · Fri Oct 14, 2011 9:13 am

In post 1494, Stringer Bell wrote:Working on a bigger post, but to answer sorgster, I copped eep because
trekker had no case and was just tunneling for god knows what reason
. I had my Doc, Cop, and RB left, and didn't have any strong scum reads, which I would have RB'd, or any strong town reads, which I would have Doctor'd. So I used my cop somewhat randomly, to try to get some sort of information.

Then, last night, I wanted to use my RB instead of my Doc because I didn't think that the mafia would go after eep, so I used my RB on AntB in hopes of blocking a kill. Tonight I'll probably use my Doc on trekker, since he's the most powerful town PR left.

Wouldn't it make sense if he was scum? If I was in your situation, the first person I'll target for cop would be trekker.

sorgster · Fri Oct 14, 2011 9:24 am

Good point stringer. Batt, please claim your actions now.

sorgster · Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:09 pm

Trekkker why did you not investigate stringer who you thought was surescum?

sorgster · Sat Oct 15, 2011 2:37 am

I find stringer's claim the least suspcious. We have a one shot neighbourizier,a one shot mason. Uprising told us about the ninja godfather thing which he has mentioned before. Trekker tunnelled stringer since day one but never investigated him. Rolecop is normally a scum role too.

sorgster · Sat Oct 15, 2011 3:49 am

In post 1518, mastin2 wrote:IF STRINGER FLIPS SCUM:

-Trekker, CSL, and Stevie are all confirmed town.
-We get a 1V1 between AntB and Eep.
*AntB is strongly implied to be town, via...
*Eep is strongly implied to be scum.
-We can potentially get another investigation from Trekker.
*If not, then we get another 1V1, between Uprising and *guilty*.

Tl;dr, we get 5 confirmed town, one strongly implied town, and only three suspects.

IF STRINGER FLIPS TOWN:
-Eep is confirmed town.
-Trekker is confirmed scum.
-We get a 1V1 between {Uprising, Bat} for sure.
-One of {CSL, Stevie, AntB} is the last scum, with AntB a more likely suspect than CSL and Stevie. (If all three have a standard of 33%, AntB is a good 40-50%.)

We have one mislynch left at most. We do not have to go for a 1/6 chance of victory for one.

sorgster · Sat Oct 15, 2011 3:52 am

In post 1311, implosion wrote:
Depression began setting in. So many innocents lost, even some heroes.
And yet, the same strategy continued to be used. Discussion, rope-tying, lynching. This time, it would be different.

...

or so they told themselves.

TheAwesomeAll's behavior had been erratic since the beginning, and it hadn't exactly gotten better recently. He claimed to be killing their enemies; but none of their enemies were dead.

As his seemingly psychotic rampage went on, the noose was quick to be tied.

...

...

TheAwesomeAll, Bulletproof Serial Killer, Lynched Day
Five
.

It's now night four. CSL has 24 hours to respond to a prod, or he'll be replaced. If he's replaced, the night deadline will be extended.

Just realized it said day 5. If eep is scum, we have our scumteam. I'm willing to bet that trekker is scum though because he has not investigated stringer bell and kept goin after his lynch

Vote trekker

sorgster · Sat Oct 15, 2011 6:03 am

I'm pretty convinced Battosai is town at the moment. If Uprising flips scum that's good. The Stringer one would have a 1/6 chance of success. We need to take this one at a time.

Unvote
Vote Uprising

sorgster · Sat Oct 15, 2011 6:04 am

EBWOP:Batt confirms some as town too if he dies after. Everyone who he has hidden behind for example.

sorgster · Sat Oct 15, 2011 6:10 am

In post 1501, Battousai wrote:N1: Therainman
N2: TAA
N3: Trekker
N4: Eep

A little bit more about my role, I was told that I wouldn't die if I hid behind scum. I took this plus the 1-shot neighborizer to mean that my role's intended purpose was to either give town an extra neighbor or to give town an extra investigation (if I hid behind a cop target).

Uprising-
Did you get a result from me hiding behind TAA, since you also watched him N2?-----
Hint, you should have been told that I targetted him

Why did you watch Redff N3? He had a greater chance at being scum do to counterclaiming a bodyguard and a very low chance of being NK'd. He did, however, have a decent chance of being investigated by town cops.-----
personally, I think you fakeclaimed watcher (less likely to be countered and already breadcrumbed it for future claim), claimed you watched redff and used the fact that red was killed and you didn't see anything to add a false air of possiblity.

Vote: Uprising
for lying about watching Taa N2.

EBWOP:If Batt is town then
conftown
me (mason with mastin)
mastin(mason)
batt
trekker
eep

Trekker conftown confirms
stevie
CSL

Thus AntB & uprising are scum. Who did I miss mentioning here?

Unvote Trekker

sorgster · Sat Oct 15, 2011 6:11 am

EBWOP:Figured out stringer is missing.

sorgster · Sat Oct 15, 2011 6:16 am

Vote Stringer

sorgster · Sat Oct 15, 2011 6:47 am

I wasn't voting you batt.

Unvote
Vote Uprising

Can we get enough people for this lynch?

sorgster · Sat Oct 15, 2011 8:19 am

Mastin is confirmed town to me so we can't lynch him. Uprising must be scum.

sorgster · Sat Oct 15, 2011 1:25 pm

Vote for uprising

sorgster · Sat Oct 15, 2011 3:58 pm

In post 1474, trekker wrote:idc Roy
Vifam is a mason, no case is a VT,
Yeesterday's lynch
was a
bulletproof
SK
(I'm assuming mafia hit him that night
), and Stevie is a VT.

You assume scum hit him that night but he was a bulletproof sk. Since he was bulletproof he could not have been hit.
Also in post #1218, day 4 ended.

In post 1233, trekker wrote:
Vote: Stringer Bell

Yet trekker votes stringer bell.

In post 1271, Hiraki wrote:Nevermind. Clarified my role with the mod.
I can confirm that TAA is scum. I'm Gunsmith.

In post 1280, trekker wrote:Yeah, the
evidence is mounting up
for TAA to be malicious. We can get Stringer later.

Vote: TheAwesomeAll

The evidence should have came from his rolecop investigation of TAA. Why did he change his vote after this evidence(which he should have known much before) suddenly came up?

sorgster · Sat Oct 15, 2011 4:03 pm

In post 1545, Uprising wrote:okay, I suppose it's between me and him, so...

Wait...
trekker said that nocase was a VT.

did Battousai replace nocase or was that someone else?

That was CSL

sorgster · Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:09 am

Vote Stringer

sorgster · Sun Oct 16, 2011 8:47 am

Everyone trekker,stringer or uprising die today. Who shall we choose?

Unvote
Vote trekker

sorgster · Sun Oct 16, 2011 9:04 am

In post 1566, eep wrote:I guess this assumes that Stevie is scum but I have a pretty good feeling that this is the case.

If stevie is scum, trekker must be scum as trekker claimed an innocent on stevie. It is very likely that trekker is scum.

sorgster · Sun Oct 16, 2011 9:17 am

The scumteam has to be trekker,CSL and stevie.
I'm sure of it.

sorgster · Sun Oct 16, 2011 9:50 am

We don't have much time left.

sorgster · Sun Oct 16, 2011 12:16 pm

If stevie is scum, then trekker must be scum. Same holds true if CSL is scum.

@MOD.Can we have a votecount please?

sorgster · Sun Oct 16, 2011 12:41 pm

Time to hammer then and hope mastin is on to something

Unvote
Vote Stringer

sorgster · Sun Oct 16, 2011 12:53 pm

scum don't win with 2 deaths. 7 guys with 3 scum.

sorgster · Thu Oct 20, 2011 12:48 pm

In post 1501, Battousai wrote:N1: Therainman

A little bit more about my role, I was told that I
wouldn't die
if I hid behind scum. I took this plus the 1-shot neighborizer to mean that my role's intended purpose was to either give town an extra neighbor or to give town an extra investigation (if I hid behind a cop target).

In post 1582, Battousai wrote:Uh, and per mastin's role plan. If I stay with innocent townie nhwo is ganked, that's two deaths and scum win. I'm not going to use my ability...

Scum #2 caught. Mastin told me what he wanted done in the qt. I'll copy and paste them later if needed just in case I die earlier.

Vote Battousai

sorgster · Thu Oct 20, 2011 1:05 pm

who did he target?

sorgster · Thu Oct 20, 2011 1:08 pm

@trekker who did you use your ability on last phase?

sorgster · Thu Oct 20, 2011 1:19 pm

Unvote

I didn't realize that. Before anything else, we need trekker's results.

sorgster · Thu Oct 20, 2011 1:24 pm

In post 1592, Battousai wrote:
In post 1582, Battousai wrote:
U
h, and
p
er mastin's
r
ole plan.
I
f I
s
tay with
i
nnocent townie
n
hwo is
g
anked, that's two deaths and scum win. I'm not going to use my ability...

Not sure what you are getting with the vote sorgster. I hid behind uprising as that way I wouldn't be killed (he's scum, so no chance of my target being killed).

Ignore all but the bolded.

sorgster · Thu Oct 20, 2011 1:36 pm

He claimed hider who doesn't die if he hides behind scum and post 1582 shows he hid behind uprising.

sorgster · Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:26 am

In post 1625, eep wrote:trekker is probably town since stringer was scum, per mastin's predictions yesterday.

Mastin told me that if batt is dead and flips town there must only be 3 scum.

sorgster · Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:27 am

Trekker claim your action for this night phase