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Post Post #0 (ISO) » Sun Mar 05, 2006 6:01 pm

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I was wondering how I make it to the endgame more often than I get killed at night. These are my conclusions:

As the game progresses, the intelligence quotient for living *pro-town* players approaches 30.


Brilliant, huh? Why would the mafia want smart people alive at the end?

And all of you who are about to call me a moron...I know already. I make it to the endgame, remember?

(* at Flay's request)
Last edited by Drummer on Mon Mar 06, 2006 8:39 am, edited 2 times in total.
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Sun Mar 05, 2006 7:01 pm

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Why not 100 rather than 0... 100 is the limit for breathing and talking, 0 is dead and a half.
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Sun Mar 05, 2006 10:49 pm

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100 isn't the limit for breathing and talking. 100 is the supposed average.

AFAIK
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Mon Mar 06, 2006 3:08 am

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I think breathing and talking is down at like 30? I believe that's the threshold for severe mental retardation.
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Mon Mar 06, 2006 4:01 am

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Oh yeah it's this magical number :/
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Mon Mar 06, 2006 4:15 am

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Drummer wrote:I was wondering how I make it to the endgame more often than I get killed at night. These are my conclusions:

As the game progresses, the intelligence quotient for living players approaches 0.
Modify it to
pro-town players
and
30
, and I'd support it.
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Mon Mar 06, 2006 6:53 am

Post by Trojan Horse »

Dilbert's Law: The intelligence quotient of any meeting is 100 minus 5 points for each participant.


Vote: Drummer
for suggesting a contradictory law.
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Mon Mar 06, 2006 8:25 am

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I'm not saying that it ever reaches 0. I'm just saying that it "approaches" 0. And yes, you're right. Pro-town players is better.

[EDIT] But then again, you've probably got a higher IQ than me. Let's go with 30.
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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Mon Mar 06, 2006 9:00 am

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The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy wrote:It is said that mobs take a life of their own. It is also said that to find the IQ of the mob, take the IQ of its stupidest member and divide by the number of people in the mob.
I suppose that doesn't necessarily conflict with Drummer's law.

Now the real question. Is anyone a big enough HHGG fan to know where that's actually from?
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Mon Mar 06, 2006 9:07 am

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Does that mean that Coron has an IQ of about 300?

I don't really think the IQ really drops like that over the course of the game. First of all, really foolish people tend to get themselves lynched one way or another, and secondly, I know that when I'm scum, I don't want to be in a game of really dumb people. Really dumb people are unpredictable; reasonably intellegent people are rather easier to predict and manipulate. ;)
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Mon Mar 06, 2006 9:41 am

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Huh, whenever I'm scum, I try to keep at least one other intelligent person alive as long as possible, unless we're getting into power-role seep mode. Otherwise, there's a tendency to be "why are you still alive?" questions.

Plus, I like having someone around who can at least
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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Mon Mar 06, 2006 4:00 pm

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Yosarian, have you ever heard the saying, "Beware of stupid people in big numbers" ? It's true. Stupid people tend to believe other stupid people's logic. I can throw out all sorts of junk and still get somebody lynched.

But I think you're taking this thread seriously or something. It's not. It's a joke on Mr. Stoofer's laws.
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Mon Mar 06, 2006 5:10 pm

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uhhh... this law is incorrect. It's only said by people not good enough to make it to an endgame who have to resort to excuses for their own shortcomings.
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Mon Mar 06, 2006 5:53 pm

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Cubsfan, you're thinking of the weakest link effect:

Any person decided to be least fit among a group by majority vote is always the most fit member.

This reasoning has a preponderance of evidence in it's favor in the form of testimony given by losing contestants on The Weakest Link.
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Tue Mar 07, 2006 6:58 am

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Cubsfan, I'll say it again. Of course this law is incorrect. It's a joke. However, in my experience, the scum DO kill of the smart ones, as the smart ones are probably on their trail. Regardless, if we're dealing in scientific theories and laws, you
cannot
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Tue Mar 07, 2006 12:21 pm

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Also, -any- such law made up this way tends to be at least partially satirical.

And any time there's ever a need to state something like that, a little part of me dies.
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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Tue Mar 07, 2006 2:03 pm

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Drummer wrote: But I think you're taking this thread seriously or something. It's not. It's a joke on Mr. Stoofer's laws.
Well, of course we all know this is a joke. But this is mafiascum. I could make a light-bulb joke here and people would spend pages debating exactally how many people it would take to screw in a house. That's just who we are. : :D
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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Tue Mar 07, 2006 2:24 pm

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I reckon that you can tell how good someone is as a townie by looking at the games they didn't survive to endgame. The higher the ratio of nightkills to lynches, the better you are, because (a) you're good at avoiding lynches, and (b) being nightkilled is a compliment - albeit one you don't want (like a come-on from someone of the wrong gender), it does suggest that you intimidate or worry the bad guys, and that is usually good.

I'm too new to have very illuminating stats (four games complete, survived to endgame in one), but I'm 1:2 - not great :(, but not too bad and I've got plenty of time to rectify it :)

Since there's a policy of naming stuff like this after oneself (which'd be considered arrogant in the academic sphere, but is therefore fair play in Mafia) I hereby christen this Adele's Ratio, as in I have an A.R. of 1:2. :D
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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Tue Mar 07, 2006 4:32 pm

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Fritzs Law: If fritz is a multi shot vig: he will kill night 1.
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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Tue Mar 07, 2006 4:45 pm

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raj's law 2.0

the more post raj makes the less likily some one will beleive him.
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Post Post #20 (ISO) » Tue Mar 07, 2006 4:57 pm

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Thok's Law: The number of laws in this thread will grow linearly in the length of the thread.

This is not to be confused with Thok's Corollary.
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Post Post #21 (ISO) » Tue Mar 07, 2006 5:59 pm

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Fritzler wrote:Fritzs Law: If fritz is a multi shot vig: he will kill night 1.
I like Fritzler better than Thok, so I'm not going to post a law and instead just say that aggressive vigging rocks.

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Post Post #22 (ISO) » Tue Mar 07, 2006 7:46 pm

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Turbovolver wrote:...aggressive vigging rocks.
I have
never
heard of a Vigilante who kills using rocks.

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Post Post #23 (ISO) » Tue Mar 07, 2006 8:03 pm

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Adele wrote:I reckon that you can tell how good someone is as a townie by looking at the games they didn't survive to endgame. The higher the ratio of nightkills to lynches, the better you are, because (a) you're good at avoiding lynches, and (b) being nightkilled is a compliment - albeit one you don't want (like a come-on from someone of the wrong gender), it does suggest that you intimidate or worry the bad guys, and that is usually good.
I've never been lynched. Does that mean I'm a flawless townie? :mrgreen:

Or more likely, does it mean that anyone who reads this and plays in a game with me is going to put me atop their list of preferred lynches? >_>
petroleumjelly wrote:I have never heard of a Vigilante who kills using rocks.
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Post Post #24 (ISO) » Tue Mar 07, 2006 8:44 pm

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VisMaiors theorem: if we allow naming laws after oneself, the chance of a specific scummer inventing a law appporaches 1.
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