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We are not. We are PV and someone else.In post 650, geists wrote:
I didn't know they are Birds of Prey. Makes sense, though. Not quite as concerning.In post 648, Nero Cain wrote:PV and Mantis being lurksacks doesn't necessarily strike me as scummy.
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Nope. I don't answer questions for people who refuse to answer mine.In post 467, Young and Beautiful wrote:
You first.In post 455, Birds of Prey wrote:
Young and Beautiful, about how many games have each of you played?
Nero looks pretty town until the end of page 21. I don't see how anyone can townread us given our total lack of content.
I don't care for #526 as it states confidently the game is multiball. I don't see how anyone can reach that conclusion.
#558 is also an overreaction. In mafia, the burden is on the persuader. It doesn't require a melodramatic response to state that. Y and B's desire to have Always copped makes them look better.
Y and B's walkback of gut is not reassuring. Geists 583 is particularly townie for his calling out the coordination of PRs.-
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I don't think you ever explained your assumption this was multiball geists. Which head thinks that? Why?
There's also a lot of wagon movement coming up very fast. I need to review that. Eyeballing this though, there's very little overlap between the wagons. People are being quite fixed in wagons and they are rising and falling with incredible speed.
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Geists, look at 695.
As for the major wagons which are anything with 5 votes are more... look here.
Abomination
(shos, Venmar, kdowns, Nero Cain, Young and Beautiful)
(shos, kdowns, Nero Cain, Young and Beautiful, T S O, Rhaego)
(shos, kdowns, Young and Beautiful, T S O, Rhaego, Katsuki, Nero Cain)
(shos, kdowns, Young and Beautiful, Rhaego, Katsuki, Nero Cain)
(shos, Mist7676, Young and Beautiful, Katsuki, Nero Cain)
(shos, Mist7676, Young and Beautiful, Katsuki, Nero Cain)
(shos, Mist7676, Young and Beautiful, Katsuki, Nero Cain)
shos
(Moogle Dance Troupe, BulbaFenix, Majiffy, ProHawk, TSO, BBmolla, Egg)
(Moogle Dance Troupe, BulbaFenix, Majiffy, ProHawk, TSO, BBmolla, Egg)
(Moogle Dance Troupe, BulbaFenix, Majiffy, ProHawk, TSO, BBmolla, Egg)
(Moogle Dance Troupe, BulbaFenix, Majiffy, ProHawk, TSO, BBmolla, Egg, Nero Cain)
(Moogle Dance Troupe, BulbaFenix, Majiffy, ProHawk, TSO, BBmolla, Nero Cain)
(Moogle Dance Troupe, BulbaFenix, Majiffy, ProHawk, TSO, BBmolla, Nero Cain)
xoelf
(Svenskt Stål, geists, shos, Egg, ActionDan)
(Svenskt Stål, geists, shos, Egg, ActionDan, Always)
Egg and Nero seem to be the only ones moving. Sure the bottom has a lot of motion but not the top. When something else gets going, it usually disbands.
VOTE: Young and Beautiful
I'm throwing my vote there because this was a fast disbanding wagon. I want to see why.
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We can rectify Y and B's noise to content ratio by voting them. While I know the odds that one of the major wagons is scum, I don't care for the major staticness of most of the posters. No one's adovacting for the wagons. It's just labels, buzzwords and filler.
Meanwhile, players like Y and B coast.
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Does your role PM explicitly say "Miller"? Please no pussyfooting.In post 963, HighShroomish wrote:
No. It's a 27-Shot Vig unlimited BP Unlychable claim.In post 960, Birds of Prey wrote:Jiffy please comment on someone other than shos. Your shos case is shit. Thank you.
Young and Beautiful you have no flavor knowledge. Great. How about contributing scumhunting knowledge?
Shroomish, is that a miller claim?
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Ditto what you said about Majiffy and YnB because I can't think of anything else to say to them.
If so, why didn't you claim in your first post.
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If Rhaego is scum, so is Egg for this post. It subtly says only the worst offender at a particular transgression can be scum and searches for another player to make worse than Rhaego.In post 966, Egg wrote:
Why is Rhaego the worst offender of this?In post 950, beastcharizard wrote:
This is why I think Rhaego is scum.In post 835, beastcharizard wrote:Rhaego is scummy because they are doing nothing at all that is helpful to the town. Their posts are just dumb questions with zero content what so ever. Their claim of scum hunting is not actually that. It feels like they are going more for making noise than anything else.
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No Shroomish. We're a town aligned Demon as well. It's not a miller. I asked the mod. The mod won't tell us precisely what it is though, other than it has some use for other players in the game. Having Demon be a miller claim in a theme where there are apparently a lot of demons makes sense. My first reaction was that it was a miller claim but it is not likely to be.
I'm not sure I agree with TSO on Mastina but I like his push to take a bold stance at the moment.
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Majiffy, I'm not angry. Your case is shit. Calling someone's case on you bullshit using imo is not rationally related to anything.
Now, do you have any actual comments on other players in the game? If you don't it becomes transparently obvious you have no interest in actually being a team player. That makes it much less likely of you getting what you want. While your at it, put together a real shos case.
Shroomish, I would think there might be an evil aligned human or two. I just watched the first few episodes. The tv show stated that there were humans who wanted crystals to do evil and what not. I'd expect some semblance of the same thing here.
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shos may be scum but "other scum" is taken out of context. One team, according to shos's theory, is full of demons. The other is full of undead. My role pm suggests that shos's theory isn't accurate since I have being a demon in my role PM and so does Shroomish. shos's language is quite similar to mine. We're demons but know jackshit beyond that.
Other team is a shitty case.
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shos, your language mirrored my language and I'm a demon. Inuyasha is a demon in the show. It's not a big leap to conclude you are a demon.
xofelf, shos's play makes sense if you believe he thought no main characters were fakeclaims ever.
Shos can be a PR or a VT. I believe it was Castle mafia that had Kate Beckett as a VT. It was either her or Castle that was.
As for the shos and xofelf wagons, don't you find it interesting that the lurkers just up and abandon one wagon for another. That's Troupe and Molla. Y and B votes shos trying to swing momentum.
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TSO, stop baiting the scum. You two have posted a lot of "you're scum!" back and forth to each other while not discussing the gamestate. If you actually plan on revealing anything useful, have a dialogue about other players in the game. I don't think Young and Beautiful is capable of analyzing the gamestate though.
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I'm not outing anything about my head until you actually answer mine first. I'm not about to give scum information voluntarily and get none in return.
I have produced plenty that's memorable. I've done a VCA, took stands against the shos and xoelf wagons and pushed yours. I've also implied a pretty strong TSO town read.
Again, where is your content? Where is your analysis? You can try to throw back but I throw down with the best of them. The catch is, I win.
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In post 1384, AngryIcerink wrote:Actually I think y&b look townish after recent posts.
Gym post.
-Bird, obv
Clarify please.
Also, can you sign with AP, Pidgeon or something? I'm getting confused as to what is directed at us versus you.
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Catching up here. First things first, finally a wagon on scum.
Second, I'm not Angry Pidgeon geists. The avatar that AngryIcerink has should be a giveaway there. The birds part of our name actually comes from the PV part of the hydra.
TSO, I found it odd you said the Y and B wagon didn't need you before it picked up steam. Also, the shos vote is hella bad.
Majiffy tunnels frequently but usually comments about the rest of the gamestate.
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In post 1587, T S O wrote:In post 1581, Birds of Prey wrote:Catching up here. First things first, finally a wagon on scum.
Second, I'm not Angry Pidgeon geists. The avatar that AngryIcerink has should be a giveaway there. The birds part of our name actually comes from the PV part of the hydra.
TSO, I found it odd you said the Y and B wagon didn't need you before it picked up steam. Also, the shos vote is hella bad.
Majiffy tunnels frequently but usually comments about the rest of the gamestate.
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You agree Y&B is scum.
I agree Y&B is scum.
Does it matter whether I vote him now or later?
If I feel the wagon weakens or lessens, I will then push it. Pushing it now is overkill, and a waste of my time.
It does because you aren't exactly pushing shos at the moment.
You also seem really concerned about perception of length on your Mastina case. Spoiler it dude if it's that long.
AP, not really stirring the pot? This wagon on Y and B does not happen without us.
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In post 1611, geists wrote:In post 1608, Birds of Prey wrote:I'm not Pere. Pere would sign his posts Pere as he alt slipped.
Also, why did you change your vote to Lemni? Y and B is a scum wagon.
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Nati wants to see that slot hang.
Nati, if you vote Y and B, we'll vote Lemni tomorrow.
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I'm glad he's voting scum. I'll deal with whether or not he's bussing later but the wagon makeup made me think shos is town. Shos's behavior makes me think he's town. Voting scum is an indication he's town.
You made some comment during my catchup that made me wonder. I'll grab it later if you feel it's important.
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This is why we can't have shiny things. We find scum. We lynch scum. We lynch agreed upon scum first. This makes me paranoid you're saying their scum but voting elsewhere because you don't want to bus. Your play gives me no reason to feel that, but your vote certainly does.
196 does have town intent. He wants to lock Abomination into whether they will be guilty or innocent on a cop check. That's the whole point of millers claim day 1.
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Self-meta sucks shit. It's not a bus if you plan on getting off precisely when Y and B is the top wagon. Also, I don't know which head says they don't bus but things can go wonky in hydras. I don't intend to vote Lemniscate for a flim flap case over an opportunist who flatly refuses to provide content.
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For Geists and BBMolla
Yes your case is flim flam geists.
I have no content scum who refuses to provide it and hops onto every major wagon. I have people like you/TSO saying they are scum, but still wanting a counterwagon anyway. They provide useless filler, which some people are townreading them for despite this wagon being fought for tooth and nail. Shos and xoe's wagons, overnight. Add in AP's sudden scumread on me after the Y and B wagon takes off...
How many people bailed on shos and xoelf because the wagon gained to much steam or they had other scumreads? Zero. You know why? Because they are town.
I wouldn't be surprised if we are looking at one team given the wagon behavior.
Compare that to
Asking Abomination to confirm whether they're a miller or not. That's literally the entire case on Leminscate. Yet, Geists sells that up as the best thing since sliced bread. Why wouldn't geists push it sooner if they believed the case was that good? Why wait until Y and B was the top wagon?
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In post 1627, geists wrote:
In post 196, Rhaego wrote:In post 111, Moogle Dance Troupe wrote: We have an additional power that we can forfeit to stop being a miller.
So will you use it?
In post 257, Rhaego wrote:Stop fighting. Now.
Like look at these and tell me the town intent.
He apparently plays similarly to me, and trust me--I can read myself.
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In post 1725, ActionDan wrote:Pbpa of all posts is a red flag and not that town of hs.
Why is this? Links please.
Young and Beautiful, you know what might actually help you out. Content. Thoughts on players in the game. This is the third or fourth time I've asked. Oh and you won't like me when I'm angry.-
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How can PbPA be an indicator of scum if there's no meta knowledge Action Dan?
Young and Beautiful, you were far from an easy lynch. You have produced no content and shifted around on the major wagons like anyone but you is acceptable. You refuse to actually analyze the game but for a fake OMGUS on me. Now, actually give the multiple reads you are talking about.
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In post 1372, Young and Beautiful wrote:If you want a serious answer, since the situation seems to demand one for once, I'm focusing on what comes to me.
There are 27 other slots in this game. I'm not willing to actively analyze every single one.
"But Young and Beautiful, that's what mafia's all about!"
Maybe. It's pointless if nobody's going to listen. Most Day 1s are filled with a lot of noise that barely anyone goes back to. I'm spending my time making light of it, and while in theory I should probably try to come up with some opinions on more than just the select few players that are popping out to me, I'm probably not going to.
Personally, I believe that at this point in the game focusing on what sticks out to me is much more productive than trying to focus on everything at once, and as a result spreading myself too thin.
When I am inevitably mislynched and inevitably flip town (I don't think anyone's townreading me at this point, which is to be expected after my outbursts but a shame anyway),I think it'd be better if I died with lasting opinions on select players and subjects because that's what I focused on trying to analyze, rather than straining myself to find a read on other players that'll only end in ideas even I don't believe anymore,
In short, I'm not going to play the whole "full votecount analysis and full playerlist reads" game because nobody really cares or is going to care in the end anyway. It's like the idea of inception, and I'm going to focus on the reads I think are important, and drive deep to try and make them stick even after I flip.
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Yeah, what does Y want to stick after you flip?
That is if you even had that discussion with your heads regarding those reads.
Yeah PbPA isn't a reason to clear someone, but if the logic works it works.
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In post 1784, Kagami wrote:xof or BoP. Why do you have BoP as a townread?
This is because we are so amazingly beautiful, we townread ourselves. Wow, that's a softball. It still missed.
Oh and playing well with others is a scumtell? Really... now you can just shut up too considering this is the first real content after your votepark.
Scum are getting lynched. I'm leading the charge. Deal with it.
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In post 1798, neil1113 wrote:In post 1797, Birds of Prey wrote:In post 1784, Kagami wrote:xof or BoP. Why do you have BoP as a townread?
This is because we are so amazingly beautiful, we townread ourselves. Wow, that's a softball. It still missed.
Oh and playing well with others is a scumtell? Really... now you can just shut up too considering this is the first real content after your votepark.
Scum are getting lynched. I'm leading the charge. Deal with it.
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And ifthey flip town?role pms change mid game?
Fixed it for you.
Seriously though, a hard reset is in order.
Moogle, their meta actually has them more useful as town.
Shroomish, nice emoticon. Aren't the birds nice to look at? If not, I'll get a better AV.
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In post 1805, Birds of Prey wrote:-Venus has been holding down the fort, but let the thread-scrubbing begin-
Good. I was beginning to think this was secretly an alt account and I was all alone on my very lonesome. Now we can just be alone.
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In post 1827, Abomination wrote:In post 1826, Majiffy wrote:You should try never attempting to meta ever again.
Why are you trying to discredit someone who is calling you town?
-Axxle
That is an effective method of stopping whiteknighting.
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Anyone can read your hydras posts. Comment beyond thatcis prohibited. I have not deduced the heads of the hydra for certain but Cho is very useful as town. The most recent New York mini normal has that.
That being said, I still think Y and B is scum but her scumbuddies must vouch for them if that is the case, so we get more by not dragging this wagon through unless this is an insanely bastard game.
If you are town y and b, do not visit me. I am too pretty. Use a thesaurus out loud.
VOTE: Unvote[/unvote]
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Willingness to call me scum? Well which is it? Am I town or scum?
Oh and sorry for not revoting immediately after I just drove up a wagon that is not likely to lead to a lynch and could have been on someone really anti-town. You might think I would want to slow down and think given we had a week. Nope not in the world according to SG. Well sorry your highness for not cracking the game day 1.
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I need to think. You nor anyone else is going to get anywhere by bullying us. You really shouldn't have a problem with me actually thinking. There are questions if we assume Y and B is town. I am not 100% on board with that but it is a plausible assumption for today.
Why was it so hard to drive up a wagon on someone anti-town and not scum that I essentially scared and cajoled people to do it? Why would Young and Beautiful refuse to give any reads? What does this say about the people who naked sheeped me? Were her defenders white knighters?
I need to think about those questions given logical impulsivity got us here. It is time to try a different approach.
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