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Post Post #1950 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:01 am

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In post 1948, Gorkington wrote:Pisskop. Did he or did he not actually literally claim the results on D3? Because if he didn't then it's pretty plausible that he didn't get the action PM and then assumed that meant that Blood had went no where. No?


I feel like you are just fucking with us right now
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Post Post #1951 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:01 am

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so pisskop isn't a pgo
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Post Post #1952 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:01 am

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HE CLAIMED HIS ACTIONS ON BLOOD D3 WHEN HE SAID HE VISITED HIM N2

WHY DIDNT HE ASK FAR WHY HE DIDNT GET A N1 RESULT? BULLSHIT, YOU STOP YOUR THINKING RIGHT NOW
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Post Post #1953 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:02 am

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Nah it's okay! I'm embracing being a piece of shit because apparently that's what I am!
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Post Post #1954 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:02 am

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peregrine, half of this hydra believes you.

you didn't die from visiting piss, that means hes lying, correct? you're not wrong about anything else you've said?
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Post Post #1955 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:02 am

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In post 1951, Hippy Love wrote:so pisskop isn't a pgo

No, Im guy with a spare nuke. 1 person, the first person, to visit me dies.
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Post Post #1956 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:03 am

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hippy wrote:I feel like you are just fucking with us right now
I would prefer not to be wrong. If the game can be over now rather than in two day cycles that'd be great!
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Post Post #1957 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:03 am

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In post 1941, Gorkington wrote:I figured the implication was that your role was a load of shit. Not as sure if you didn't actually claim the results you're claiming now during D3.


No, my role is as stated. Which led me to try to figure, is pisskop lying town, or lying scum?

Jury is still out on that, because there are worse scum in the game. (Aronis)

Plus, I kind of, rightly or wrongly, do not think that Farside gives scum an additional kill in a 13 player game.

Making pisskop most likely dumb town.
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Post Post #1958 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:04 am

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We arent letting him off, we arent springing for a piss lynch when there is nothing scummy about me and was no reason for me to claim other than to put the talk of a 3p to rest.

You stop being an awful mafia player rn.
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Post Post #1959 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:04 am

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In post 1951, Hippy Love wrote:so pisskop isn't a pgo

Then how did Firebringer die?
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Post Post #1960 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:04 am

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nothing he has said this game has been town. IDK why you are even entertaining this ffs.
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Post Post #1961 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:05 am

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Him being a delayed tracker would explain why Firebringer died over him on N1.
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Post Post #1962 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:05 am

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In post 1953, Gorkington wrote:Nah it's okay! I'm embracing being a piece of shit because apparently that's what I am!


I don't think you are and I wld never call you that ever.

I just don't understand the hostility.

I think you are a fantastic player who takes the time to things through, and you are a bonus to any game you sign up for.

that is my very real opinion.
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Post Post #1963 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:06 am

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*think things through
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Post Post #1964 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:06 am

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Obviously I don't feel like that right now!
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Post Post #1965 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:06 am

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In post 1961, Gorkington wrote:Him being a delayed tracker would explain why Firebringer died over him on N1.

No it fucking wouldnt. It would explain nothing.

the results get recieved, not the action being carried out.
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Post Post #1966 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:06 am

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In post 1954, Hippy Love wrote:peregrine, half of this hydra believes you.

you didn't die from visiting piss, that means hes lying, correct? you're not wrong about anything else you've said?


He could be telling the truth.

Note this post-
In post 1669, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 1667, Hippy Love wrote:this is what we have so far:

rogue is claiming to have been motivated
fire the motivator died by being blown up n1
pisskop is claiming pgo which wld mean fire targeted him. presumably at night.
rogue says they were motivated

if fire motivated pisskop during the day and it was death by pgo, wldn't that reflect in the day end post? gorky brought this up.

it doesn't make sense for fire to be a day motivator. unless far held off on fire's flip for some reason? this is the only way that rogue and pisskop can both be town. but why say he died n1.

the logical conclusion to be drawn from this is that pisskop is lying and chose to blow up fire...for some strange reason, mebbe he thought fire was obvstown due to persy interactions so why are rogue pushing a wagon on aronis.

it doesn't make sense.


It's not too hard to guess what might have happened.

If Aronis is a redirector, he can accomplish what his claim is saying by redirecting actions to himself.
He can also redirect actions from player to player.
All he had to do is re-direct actions to me to Firebringer instead, maybe with the thought that I would be vigged and they could kill Firebringer instead.
Then, when I would have blown up, assuming pisskop is what he says, Firebringer blows up instead.

Redirector is not a common role, but in a game with lots of town night actions, like we seem to have available, it makes more sense.

If Aronis is town, and Rogue is blocked, we can lynch pisskop tomorrow.
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Post Post #1967 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:07 am

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In post 1955, pisskop wrote:
In post 1951, Hippy Love wrote:so pisskop isn't a pgo

No, Im guy with a spare nuke. 1 person, the first person, to visit me dies.


So, it was all up to the NAR? And motivator goes before tracker?
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Post Post #1968 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:07 am

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You're sure about that?

@farside, if a role was "delayed" in this game, would it count as targeting the player on the night that the target was chosen or when the action was actually carried out?
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Post Post #1969 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:07 am

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In post 1961, Gorkington wrote:Him being a delayed tracker would explain why Firebringer died over him on N1.


it doesn't explain the d3 results tho!
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Post Post #1970 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:08 am

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But he never actually had the results q.q unless someone points to a D3 post where Peregrine says "Blood targeted Rogue on N2" then I'm not into quicklynching him.
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Post Post #1971 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:09 am

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HE LIED ABOUT RESULTS WHATEVER HIS FUCKING CLAIM IS HE CLAIMED TO HAVE 2 RESULTS FOR 2 NIGHTS THAT HE DIDNT HAVE

WHY THE HECK IS THIS SO HARD FOR YOU? WHEN YOU DONT GET A PM FROM THE MOD, YOU ASK WHY!! YOU DONT ASSUME IT MEANS THEY DIDNT GO ANYWHERE>
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Post Post #1972 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:09 am

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In post 1967, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 1955, pisskop wrote:
In post 1951, Hippy Love wrote:so pisskop isn't a pgo

No, Im guy with a spare nuke. 1 person, the first person, to visit me dies.


So, it was all up to the NAR? And motivator goes before tracker?


this is weird.

Scum could have a PGO. I wouldn't doubt it. Town is strong
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Post Post #1973 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:09 am

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In post 1961, Gorkington wrote:Him being a delayed tracker would explain why Firebringer died over him on N1.


I thought about that. The action of tracking happens night1, even if I get the result night2. I didn't check with Farside, because it doesn't make a difference, but we either both should have died, or something affected the results. Or he is scum with an extra kill (but I mentioned my belief in the low likelihood of that).
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Post Post #1974 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:10 am

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I cant. Im done here. You all stew in your own choices.
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