Blitz 12: Double Trouble! (Game Over)

Dwlee99 · Post Post #1275 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 4:07 pm

Lol no ABR.

You can't be serious? If the vig hit a scum then that is 5 out of 7 lynches, still not fair.

pisskop · Post Post #1276 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 4:13 pm

Where are you getting that information?

-The vig had all the chances to hit scum. In fact he did. Youre trying to discount associations.
-The ascetic took the watcher power
-Scum spent the whole game trying to crosskill

pisskop · Post Post #1277 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 4:14 pm

This game came right down to lylo. It was a toss up the whole way

pisskop · Post Post #1278 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 4:19 pm

I do see ways to improve it.

17 players would be better, and a lot of the powers used were nullified or targeting the wrong people

Firebringer · Post Post #1279 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 9:18 pm

Multiballs are always going to be swingy and semi rely on scum hitting each other, thats how its always been.

If you been looking for the best balance games, its not going to be in multiball.

Just how the game is.

pisskop · Post Post #1280 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 9:24 pm

Well, though I dont think this game was too unbalanced to pass say, the Normal review board's standards on that, I want these dissenting opinions.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #1281 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 9:27 pm

I'm just salty because getting that many scum lynches in a row should be very near to a win.

Firebringer · Post Post #1282 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 9:31 pm

I think Pisskop just likes putting too much scum in his games

I mean 35% of the players in this were scum.

Thats pretty darn high.

Probably should be more around 15-25%

Firebringer · Post Post #1283 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 9:33 pm

Remember Kingmaker Pisskop?
4 out of 11 players are scum. Not just that, but on one team.

Thats 36% of the player base.

pisskop · Post Post #1284 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 9:34 pm

3 were scum there. Are you sure

you

remember?

Firebringer · Post Post #1285 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 9:35 pm

In post 1284, pisskop wrote:3 were scum there. Are you sure
you
remember?

I CAN"T REMEMBER ANYTHING!

pisskop · Post Post #1286 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 9:35 pm

Well I appreciate your feedback here. What about the seup as a whole?

Firebringer · Post Post #1287 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 9:49 pm

Not really, the setup itself wasn't bad, I just think the numbers were off.

Ranger · Post Post #1288 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 11:07 pm

Errantparabola wrote:Ranger was right about me too.
Ranger always manages to keep me on my toes

You actually killed me at

exactly

the right time, though.

I was getting paranoid of Squirrelly and thought you might be town for your respective perspectives on Flubbernugget: you 'thought' Flubber was a werewolf (like I did), whereas Squirrelly thought Flubber was a vampire. When Flubber flipped vampire, it got me very paranoid of Squirrelly. Obviously, them claiming mason would have removed that paranoia and made me rethink, but you did kill me precisely when it was best for me. :P

Pretty proud at my reads this game. They didn't start off great, but by D2/D3 I got stuff like 827. (If you flip Dominator and Flubbernugget, then all the scum would be at the bottom of the list!)

AlwaysInnocent · Post Post #1289 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 11:16 pm

I don't know why people had doubts about Squirrelly. I flipped Mason, and I had Squirrelly consistently as town, as something entirely self-evident. You simply had to look at my reads to figure out that Squirrelly had to be the other Mason.

AlwaysInnocent · Post Post #1290 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 11:19 pm

In post 1272, Errantparabola wrote:Well, when you put it that way... Yeah, there was not a lot of chance for a crosskill.

This has been severely underestimated, I believe.

Persivul · Post Post #1291 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 11:56 pm

In post 1277, pisskop wrote:This game came right down to lylo. It was a toss up the whole way

That's the problem. When town has made 4 correct lynches out of 5, it shouldn't be a tossup, and they shouldn't be in lylo.

Come on, in a typical 9 person setup, town doesn't lose until they've mislynched 3 times. In this 16 person setup, town lost on its second mislynch. That's ludicrous.

AlwaysInnocent · Post Post #1292 (ISO) » Thu Dec 31, 2015 12:22 am

Anyway, good play, Errant. I already thought you were framing Kaboose. But you did make me doubt my suspicions at least a few times.

Yakko was obviously scum when he placed his vote on Firebringer and accused him of being scum because scum didn't quickhammer. Unfortunately Firebringer voted without consensus, so scum got to quickhammer. That's stupid, Firebringer. You should have known better. But oh well.

Gg.

Ranger · Post Post #1293 (ISO) » Thu Dec 31, 2015 12:34 am

Always Innocent wrote:Firebringer voted without consensus, so scum got to quickhammer.

Two games in 24 hours, even.
Be less vote-happy in lylo, Firebringer.
Pretty, pretty please.

Firebringer · Post Post #1294 (ISO) » Thu Dec 31, 2015 12:35 am

No, thats who I am.

Firebringer · Post Post #1295 (ISO) » Thu Dec 31, 2015 12:36 am

In post 1292, AlwaysInnocent wrote:Firebringer voted without consensus

The consensus was actually on Kaboose, if anything I should have ignored that and voted Errant.

Persivul · Post Post #1296 (ISO) » Thu Dec 31, 2015 2:02 am

In post 1281, Dwlee99 wrote:I'm just salty because getting that many scum lynches in a row should be very near to a win.

Damn right.

texcat · Post Post #1297 (ISO) » Thu Dec 31, 2015 4:29 am

Pisskop, I think the actions and the NK need to be locked in at the same time. With that hour in between, the werewolves could always change the NK and we had no possible way to react to it.

Persivul · Post Post #1298 (ISO) » Thu Dec 31, 2015 4:59 am

Regarding yakko: I personally always agree to have a scum thread opened, but I think the scum should get to make that choice. If one or more of them want to limit knowledge of their scum strategy to as few people as possible, that's their right and IMO it should be respected.

ika · Post Post #1299 (ISO) » Thu Dec 31, 2015 6:50 am

The problem everyone is looking at with this offhand is that a vig is basically a free Lynch too.

If the vig never fired you would of had more buffer. Misgiving only brings it closer to said situations. I did say as a rewiwer its swingy as hell and that it could be anyone's game. But I don't think it was imbalanced like many are arguing