Mini 1869- camn's revenge GAME OVER!

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Thu Jan 19, 2017 8:09 pm

If we have a cop, check out Aero because honestly that's the 3rd one.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Thu Jan 19, 2017 8:12 pm

In post 1942, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Okay new townbloc

{Nacho, Gin, Mastin, Fate, Prism, Dreal, Cakez, Ari}

Strong as fuck whole shit ^^

Aero, Mono, BTD6, Vax, Jin are all that's left.

Jin is outta here.

So Aero, Mono, BTD6, Vax.

We able to come to a conclusion on BTD6?

{Nacho, Gin, Mastin, Fate, Prism, Dreal, Cakez, Ari}
{BTD6, Vax}
{Aero, Mono, Jin}

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Thu Jan 19, 2017 8:15 pm

@Pine Your game was ruined at post 1555

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p8748296

So a total of around 450 posts of pure, unadulterated, badass.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Thu Jan 19, 2017 8:18 pm

I will have to call it here tho Nacho. I have work at 9 in the morning but this was so juicy not to pass up. Like if I ever write in my Wiki, you're being name dropped as an achievement to play with.

Same goes for Mastina who I still am grateful for her teachings and allowing me to flourish in such the manner that I have done just now.

Your reads list is mine but broken down more :p

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Thu Jan 19, 2017 8:25 pm

Assuming worst case scenario

D0 10v3
D1: 4(6)v3
N1: 4(5)v3
D2: 3(5)v3
N2: 3(4)v3
D3: 2(3)v3
N3: 2(2)v3 =scum win

I highly doubt we won't catch a single scum in this time and this assumes other players aren't confirmed and everything is shit. We got this way in the bag.

Officially, goodnight.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:06 am

jam session, vote Jin

we found the scum group it's Aero, Jin, Mono

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:36 am

In post 2025, Vaxkiller wrote:
In post 1652, Nachomamma8 wrote:i had taco bell tonight!

In post 1651, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Roommate is bringing me a shit ton of taco bell for the night

How are you guys feeling this morning?

We claim to the conclusion that you're most likely town. Otherwise, I'm pretty fucked at work

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:38 am

The results of the jam session is that we have a townbloc of Ari, mastin, Gin, Nacho. We figured out the scum team of Aero, Mono, Jin. Everyone else in the middle we broke them down town hunting the entire way. I don't think we didn't do any player lol

In post 2003, Nachomamma8 wrote:My reads look more like:

{Nacho, Gin, Mastin, Ari}
{Cakez, Drealmer}
{Fate, Prism}
{BTD6, Vax}
{Aero, Mono, Jin}

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:39 am

Today's lynch is Jin, we Vig Mono and cop goes after Aero.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:43 am

Jin (lurkscum)
Prism (forgot to move vote off)
BTD6 (Who we find suspect but townish enough to ignore)
Drealz (Who gave fuck all when he voted)

That's the wagon on me and it really means nothing

Also after you're doing reading the jam session, it pretty much locks in the townbloc completely no argument about it. Mastina summed it up perfectly that it's just not something scum can fake.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Fri Jan 20, 2017 3:36 am

Vax, read the town Jam session. We're confident in literally everyone and even discussed SAJ's slot and what we found townie/scummy.

It's the worthy lynch actually.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Fri Jan 20, 2017 3:38 am

There is literally no harm in lynching SAJ. It's actually one of, if not thee most important list because we were able to solve to a T that the game is Aero, Jin, Mono.

WE HAVE TO KNOW IF THESE ARE WRONG.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Fri Jan 20, 2017 3:58 am

Yeah no, we went into the intent of posts to see what we thought was the true motivations behind it.

You're being a pain in the ass for no reason as there is literally no reason SAJ should not be the lynch. No seriously, I brought this up early but people HATE lurker lynches for no reason and it's stupid. It's a bad slot my guy and we both know it. So vote it up

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:01 am

My guy. If Jin isn't scum I will focus all my attention onto Fate, otherwise I'm sorry.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:03 am

My scum team pick is Aero, Jin, Mono. Like I said before, we figured out this as the team and with Jin gone, we either know we are on the right path or wrong and can work up the list. It's the best lynch my guy please understand

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:47 am

What's wrong with or plan seriously?

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Fri Jan 20, 2017 5:01 am

Mastins pointed it out quite clearly. You simply deserve a scummy award on the spot if you jam. It's nigh impossible for scum to do something as pro town as that for 8 fucking hours straight

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Fri Jan 20, 2017 5:02 am

8 hours Vax, 450 posts of meaty game solving content. You just don't do that as scum.

Also, look at Nacho and I, we were able to break Ari out of his shell and be the town player he is. Saved him from a sorry mislynch.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Fri Jan 20, 2017 5:05 am

With the way things are laid out, if any of the 3 below are incorrect, then it warrants a high interest in Fate, otherwise not really man

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Fri Jan 20, 2017 6:14 am

The game might not be solved, but we laid out a path that leaves no option for scum to run from. That's what happened. They seriously can't hide.

If Mono and Aero/Jin both town, I'm highly suspect of Fate but we are at the point where we have the scummiest players, we lynch them and we get flips and night kills to analyze the game later on.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Fri Jan 20, 2017 6:32 am

Prism, scum is forced to kill an active voice with SAJ out of the way. So there's also that bright side.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Fri Jan 20, 2017 7:11 am

Now, we wait

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Fri Jan 20, 2017 7:56 am

PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCMENT L1=L1 IN THIS GAME

PINE IS A TREESTUMP AND THIS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED BEFORE

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Fri Jan 20, 2017 8:11 am

Well 4 players are out of the picture as town bloc to me.

That leaves 9 unknowns and 3 scum. If you 3 are not, Fate is at a 50/50 chance of being scum and thus, looking into makes more sense

Add to the fact that if Mono is town, it adds weight to the mono V. fate

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Fri Jan 20, 2017 8:18 am

I mean dude, I'm confident in my reads to the point I think I've got the game close to solved. If by chance that any of y'all are town, there are some questionable people but that's hypothetical and is a useless argument until flips.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Fri Jan 20, 2017 8:31 am

Only reason I said it is cuz I did the same thing earlier this game :p

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Fri Jan 20, 2017 9:06 am

In post 2109, Katsuki wrote:HEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO LOVELIES (and Fate)~~~!

Unvote me Fate this makes for awkward sheeping I only replaced into this game on the condition that you were town thanks

Hi, nice to meet you. You fully read or no?

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Fri Jan 20, 2017 9:36 am

In post 2111, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:
In post 2109, Katsuki wrote:HEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO LOVELIES (and Fate)~~~!

Unvote me Fate this makes for awkward sheeping I only replaced into this game on the condition that you were town thanks
Hi, nice to meet you. You fully read or no?

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:01 am

Why mono

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:01 pm

I dont like Fate

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:07 pm

Also Katsuki is lame af right now at the wheel. It's like that slot had all four tires slashed and now no one can freaking drive it.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:10 pm

Mastina, thoughts on Fate voting Jin, getting replaced, then votes Mono?

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:21 pm

Good to know.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:33 pm

In post 2164, Monokuma wrote:Not trying? What's our list of people we'll vote then?

Reads list aint shit except for hoes and tricks.

No seriously, anyone can just say "I'm not lynching; I am lynching." It's called feigning contribution mate.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:39 pm

Why do you keep pushing me?

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:41 pm

Mono doesn't help scumhunt
Dreal keeps voting me
Fate is being Fate
Jin/Kat's slot is doing fuck all
Prism and Vax are being paranoid going "but what if" without actually saying why it's more true.

Then there is me below

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:45 pm

Nacho, tell me it's going to be okay. I want to scream

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:47 pm

In post 2178, Monokuma wrote:
In post 2176, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 2168, Monokuma wrote:Who says we need to contribute more than that? We're trying. We put forward who we'll lynch. That's furthering our win condition, we don't feel the need to do more than that. Sorry if that upsets you.
Don't forget voting!
Or is there something you're looking for before you place a vote?
A votecount.

I'm about to blow.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:53 pm

In post 2177, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Nacho, tell me it's going to be okay. I want to scream

It's not okay is it?

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:00 pm

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:05 pm

I don't know why I'd be town? Maybe fucking game solving all fucking game?

Maybe spent 8 hours of my life going over deeply each fucking player?

JEE, I wander what the fuck I've done that's townie. Wish I did something but apparently I've done fuck all.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:12 pm

Fate/Jin/Mono?

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:17 pm

Why can't we agree to lynch Jin?

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:25 pm

You tell me what you need researched or looked over, I'm at the point where I start to get pain in my head because people won't do what's so blatantly the smartest decision to make.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:29 pm

MAFIA CAN FUCKING LURK PRISM

LURK DOES NOT EQUAL TOWN.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:31 pm

PEOPLE DEFENDED THE FUCK OUT OF LYNCHING JIN FOR REASONS. IT'S BEEN APPARENT. YOU CAN READ INTO THOSE.

P-Edit: You not wanting to lynch them is saying blatantly that you think they're not scum. Why? You fucking vote scum thats why.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:32 pm

Prism, why did you honestly vote Ari instead of Jin?

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:41 pm

You sound more like you want one town lynch and night kill before you lose a scum bud.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:43 pm

Prism, would you say it's fair for me to say I think you're just hyper unwilling to vote Jin as both of you share a common alignment?

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:44 pm

Aristophanes was accused of BEING A FUCKING LURKER.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:45 pm

You're lying through your teeth Prism.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:45 pm

The difference between you and I, I'm already voting one. I'm not going to split up the votes.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:47 pm

Kat, seriously, just talk and stop trying to appeal to emotions.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:50 pm

Press B to hammer

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:57 pm

You have a lurker slot Jin who replaced with an Appeal to Emotions Kat who is doing fuck all as town and then you have Mono who is doing fuck all as town willing to only get into pissing matches and not voting and both slots have made that abundantly fucking clear to the point where you're being willfully ignorant to suggest otherwise.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Fri Jan 20, 2017 3:19 pm

links or it didn't happen

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Fri Jan 20, 2017 3:23 pm

My read on you is: Annoyed as fuck

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Fri Jan 20, 2017 3:27 pm

Nacho was lynched lol

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Fri Jan 20, 2017 3:28 pm

Yeah, uh whew I'll be reading that 8000 posts at some day, but today is not that day :p

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sat Jan 21, 2017 7:16 am

I wasn't the one who extended the deadline

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:30 am

Fate what do you mean double voter?

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:45 am

In post 2314, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Fate what do you mean double voter?

FATEEEEEEEEEE

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:51 am

Fate VOTE KAT

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sat Jan 21, 2017 9:02 am

No she's not. Explain because she hasn't done shit

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sat Jan 21, 2017 12:24 pm

Fate: Bussing Jin
Fate: Sees Kat replace in
Fate: Sees a cop out of the lynch
Fate: Fucking Takes it

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sat Jan 21, 2017 1:20 pm

dreal, you could always vote Katsuki..

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sat Jan 21, 2017 1:27 pm

You're literally the only one that thinks that because you're being stubborn.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sat Jan 21, 2017 1:31 pm

You're doing this just to be a jackass aren't you?

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sat Jan 21, 2017 1:32 pm

You don't build a case
You refuse to be helpful
You bang your head on the wall saying the same shit
You sit on some ego that's not helping anyone
You refuse to say why Kat is town
You refuse to say why I'm scum

You're being an ass because you can.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sat Jan 21, 2017 1:34 pm

IF YOU NEED A FLIP YOU CAN GO LYNCH WHO WE AGREE ON WAS SCUM AND USELESS. LIKE FUCK DUDE

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sat Jan 21, 2017 1:37 pm

The fact that you won't vote Katsuki to end the day but want the day to end is fucking bullshit.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sat Jan 21, 2017 1:38 pm

Who the fuck is going to be lynched today? Who do you fucking think? Katsuki is, clear as fucking crystal but you won't help by putting down a vote. That's my fucking problem dude.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sat Jan 21, 2017 1:39 pm

Mono and Aero are literally the other two people we concluded was scum, does it really surprise you that they won't vote?

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sat Jan 21, 2017 1:40 pm

If Katsuki was town, she would have been lynched already plain and simple. The fact that people wont vote her is damning to show scum want her alive still. Look at the bigger picture.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sat Jan 21, 2017 1:43 pm

How do you know it's a mislynch?

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sat Jan 21, 2017 1:43 pm

What knowledge do you have that I dont?

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sat Jan 21, 2017 1:44 pm

No, you said Mislynch. Clear as fucking day. There is no possible way you can determine an unflipped person a good lynch or a mislynch.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sat Jan 21, 2017 1:47 pm

If you say it's a mislynch, that means you think Kat is town, but you say you have no read on them.

If you say you want day to end, that means you'll apathy vote to end the day, but you go for a vote that won't gain any traction.

I'm not seeing how you can be this jumbled in your own opinion.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sat Jan 21, 2017 1:49 pm

As soon as I call you out on your cognitive dissonance you want to stop talking? Cute.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sat Jan 21, 2017 1:53 pm

Explain to me how you have a town read on Kat. You said she was a mislynch and it was likely she was town. You also say you don't vote because it's a null read. I'm not understanding how you can say both and think they are mutually exclusive.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sat Jan 21, 2017 1:59 pm

SAJ play in the beginning, we went over it and concluded it wasn't his town game I gave examples as to why that was. We discussed it and thoroughly in the town jam.

Think about this. A slot that doesn't play scum that well does "meh" in the beginning, goes to V/LA and realizes he can do about fuck all in continuing to play and just prods/replaces out. Then comes Katsuki and she did absolutely nothing and was called out for a scum entrance.

The proof is in my pudding and there has not been a single moment in that slot to think they are town.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sat Jan 21, 2017 2:02 pm

WIFOM argument is invalid and I'm not entering it.

P-Edit: WOW

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sat Jan 21, 2017 2:06 pm

Nope. It's a cop out to explain why you wont vote a slot. I give fuck all what Pine thought when he picked people and its a waste of time.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sat Jan 21, 2017 3:50 pm

If Jin ends up being a powerful scum role I'm pushing for a power lynch on dreal

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sat Jan 21, 2017 3:55 pm

I'm starting to come to the possibility that you're scum read on me is a facade so you don't have to put in work this game.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sat Jan 21, 2017 3:57 pm

dreal, who besides me is scum?

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sat Jan 21, 2017 3:59 pm

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:00 pm

Why is Mastin and Aero scum.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:04 pm

Why are Mastina and Aero scum?

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:08 pm

What about Mastina proves to you that she is scum

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:14 pm

In post 2392, drealmerz7 wrote:only a flip or sane cop proves anything in mafia, scum

This is Camn's game so there is a Vig. Please if you're the vig and believe in mercy vig the ever loving shit out of this slot.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:16 pm

Dreal, you say nothing but accusations that are baseless and when asked about them, you dont provide any reasoning. You deserve to be shot because you do more harm than good.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:37 am

In post 2419, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 2322, Fate wrote:We have THREE DAYS there is no pressure. Take a breather and realize thats a pile of shit. I was all down for a lurker powerlynch but Katsuki is an asset to town
Katsuki is a cupcake-shaped blindspot to you sometimes (and always has been, but that's probably because you thought he was a woman for like 5 years). I'm comfortable giving him today, but if down the road we have to chuck him off the cliff, then I want you to be the first one pushing.

Not lynching?

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:42 am

Ya ninja'd my vote suggestion

VOTE: Monokuma

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:56 am

In post 2433, drealmerz7 wrote:oh sure, if I'm wrong about Gin I'll absolutely re-calibrate

There is a god

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:58 am

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo vote Mono

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sun Jan 22, 2017 5:06 am

Aristo is V/LA

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sun Jan 22, 2017 5:11 am

In post 2444, Monokuma wrote:you people are trying way too hard for day 1.

At least we try

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sun Jan 22, 2017 5:25 am

lol at the fact that day 1 becomes useless when we vote mono but it doesn't matter when we vote Jin.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sun Jan 22, 2017 12:44 pm

In post 2498, mastina wrote:Phoneposting. Internet down. V/LA until it returns. Am burning through precious data to post even this message.

There goes our lynch

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:01 pm

Happy birthday :p

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sun Jan 22, 2017 7:07 pm

Mastina we good on doing Mono, let Fate have his date even if it makes one irate.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:22 am

Prism, Ari is on V/LA. That's why he isn't posting

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:30 am

He produced content on his own. I had no say in what he actually wrote, ergo town!Ari

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:34 am

No no, this is Ari we are talking about. It's completely a different story and can't be used as a read on any player except Ari.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:44 am

You're not getting it. It doesn't matter if the town asked him to jump, it's the fact that he was able to actually jump. Scum!Ari LITERALLY won't jump even if it means being lynched.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:49 am

For reference, what about these posts screamed to you scum? What part of these posts were unoriginal thoughts by Ari?

This is Ari talking about Vax and had no discussion about Vax talked about at all before hand.

The first post I did give him my thought process but then the next 3 posts, they were literally me asking him for his thoughts. HE PRODUCED every single word that he wrote none of my help.

Also the town never asked him to do it, I talked to him one on one. The dude is lynchbait when he talks about his self-meta and gets off track when people yell at him. I knew to tell people to back off and let him focus and he did and blossomed like a flower.

In post 1905, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:
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In post 1867, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 1861, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Starting off with his first post, I picked out the parts that stood out to me. I have to agree with Vax here that in the beginning, I saw it as a distancing move with dreal and Pine, what are your thoughts on this quote?

In post 145, Vaxkiller wrote:BUT dreal is a good player as well, and this seems like distancing. I see dreal put alot of emotion when trying to convince people in his arguments.
Also moving onto the same quote but a little further. What do you think of the validity of Vax's statements?

In post 145, Vaxkiller wrote:More scum posting. Instead of saying why, you just say just say shes "scumming it up" also you trying VERY VERY hard to convince us pine did not pick you, a little to hard.
I don't know their history, but Dreal is a decent player generally. I do think he'd distance from Pine. I don't read it as such though. He is making it too obvious to be real distancing I think.

I di agree that Dreal way exaggerated Nacho's "scumming it up" as I don't believe he had even had 2 posts at this time. It's a good observation. Nacho would also be one that Pine would want discredited early, as he is a fantastic player. So I definitely could buy it here.

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In post 1874, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 1870, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Okay, so tell me your thoughts about this post here, I have my thoughts but I'm interested in your opinion.

In post 410, Vaxkiller wrote:Because taht is al he posted so far.

I'm new here, but I've heard the name nacho before, so its not like hes some newbie-scum that is afraid to post.

So what about that post do you think people were voting him for?
I'm conflicted on it. I like that he's pointing it out. It's likely he has heard nacho's name thrown around. I know I did well before I ever played with him. He is talked about. I also like him calling out the unfair push on Nacho. It is part of why I scumread Mastina at the beginning. Because I just didn't see where any of it was coming from and it looked like a really opportunistic push.

What I don't like about it is that it doesn't actually take a stance. It's merely a fact post. Like "you are wrong because..." not "your pushing this is scummy because..."
It's a small distinction, but it does make a big difference sometimes.

Like I say, it gives me pause, but I do like that he called it out.
If he's scum, it'd be ballsy (though one must be in a game with this caliber of player in it).

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In post 1889, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 1878, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Same concept Ari, I know this post is bigger than the others but can we go for a 3 piece?

In post 433, Vaxkiller wrote:On my first read through of the first few pages I missed. I was left of the opinion that mastina was game solving. But re-reading through I missed parts of thier posts taht I do not like.

First off post 22 is just bad

post 26 starts off great, but then falls into the same "Why didn't pine pick me?"

post 34 more crying about not being picked.

Then alot of posting I like. With the exceptions of posts

106
224

which I cant even follow.

@mastina give a tldr on some of these, good lord.

TLDR: Good townies have no reason to be posting shit like "why didnt you choose me" it jsut creates WIFOM for no reason. and further communication with pine (like dreal is doing) just muddy's those waters further! It's not helping town and he knows better than to play like that.

I know I said I was going to revisit my death tunnel on dreal, but I cant find anything that makes me want to move my vote.

Mastina looks better as the day goes on, but I still question those earlier comments, and I don't have the same super town feeling. more of a town-lite (and liek all lite beers, does not leave me satisfied)
On the posts he linked: The first one is bad, I totally agree. It was a bad idea to start a 1v1. Easy as that. Easy opinion.

The two where she was "crying about not being picked" were pretty standard "let me fill you in" posts, and the 2 "incomprehensible" ones were standard for Mastina. I know he probably has no experience on which to base this, but it's true, and I think it should have been deducible by that point.

I dislike the shit flinging and backing down at the end of the post. It all read a little weak and wishy washy, but to wnd it with "town-lite" seems like a cop out. Like an "I'm supposed to scumread you but I have to ease into it" kinda read.

Also, I hate that he called his Dreal "push" a death tunnel in multiple posts. It wasn't a death tunnel. It was barely a tunnel. It was a push and a read (barely). Overstating it was unneeded and reinforcing that overstatement just is weird. Too peculiar for my liking.

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In post 1903, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 1894, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Now Ari, the grand finally I need from you, thoughts here please <3

In post 710, Vaxkiller wrote:Does anyone actually believe that Fate is town? All he has been doing is spreading miss-information, providing horrible reasons for his voting 418 432 Hes not even reading the thread 350 604!

Asks questions, but refuses to answer small legitimate ones asked of him: 577 578 579 580. All this translates to scum, and hes having a blast doing it. I'm having fun with this game too, but I can guarantee the scum are having even more fun.

In post 605, Fate wrote:Wait is camn allowed to post freely too or is that just flavor <_<
Worried?

In post 634, Fate wrote:Pine's tellign the truth here

Whichis exactly what I said

Nacho first round scum pick

Fate second round town pick

???

profit
You modified this a bit, and your using fate to defend yourself?

In post 632, Pine wrote:Nacho was a first round pick, Fate. You were a second round pick.

Hate to burst your bubble.
I know I said this before but post 628 reeks of someone thinking of a great joke, but has to wait for the right moment, when the blurt it out all the sudden and it sounds super rehearsed, like they have been waiting to say it for soooo long. As soon as you rolled scum you thought of this right?

VOTE: Fate
I still want dreal dead, once fate flips maybe more people will believe my dreal case.

@Fate

Found this when reading your iso:

In post 594, Fate wrote:I also never called Gin* scum, Vaxkiller

Interesting how that came out of nowhere
You wouldn't answer my question so I assumed it.
Alright, here we go!

The first two linked posts are Meta reasons which, though weak, do have reasons to them. I like that he is scrutinizing strong players, but I wonder if he knows howstrong they are.
I don't like that he didn't link any "misinformation" and also that he accused Fate of not reading the thread at the same time. Like, the two kind of contradict each other, and there is no evidence provided for the former. He could have had a much more solid case had he put that effort in.

The links (4 succeeding posts) where Fate didn't answer him just sound butthurt on his part, but don't really strengthen a scumread.

His quote section is shit tbh. He is being nitpicky as fuck, and none of it is actually scummy. If you just assume Fate has an ego, all of this makes sense and is pretty much NAI.
The "super rehearsed joke" was NAI. The fighting for a position in the draft was NAI. Asking if Camn could sway the game was obviously not a real question, and thus NAI.
It looks like he's stringing together a weak ass case on a good player for the sake of it, and I don't really like it!

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:54 am

I forget, have you even said why I'm scum?

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:56 am

In post 2590, Prism wrote:I'm not saying the posts aren't original.

I am saying that when the entire town screams "Ari scum lurks and doesn't produce content",
Ari scum is going to provide content

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:57 am

No seriously, pretend like you know Ari and his scum meta.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:58 am

Speak of the devil. Go talk to him Prism

In post 2584, Aristophanes wrote:Imma read up soon. But like, not "today" soon.

How has everyone been?

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Mon Jan 23, 2017 2:28 pm

VOTE: btd6

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:13 pm

yeah vote BTD6

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:17 pm

I'm talking to other ppls

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:21 pm

Cakez, vote BTD6, they will be V/LA for two weeks and they don't post as is.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:24 pm

Fate, babe, do me the solid. If you vote for BTD6 today, i'll vote Cakez tomorrow

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:26 pm

Fate, I will vote bloc with you D2 if you vote BTD6 today

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:27 pm

How shall D2 roll?

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:27 pm

Oh glorious leader?

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:37 pm

lol @dreal dodging questions

In post 2589, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I forget, have you even said why I'm scum?

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:48 pm

drealmerz, you have never actually said why I'm scum...

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:55 pm

You're saying I'm scum because I'm fucking town...

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:56 pm

Everyone views me as town because I've brought a town game sweetheart. You're just a player that buys into the conspiracy theory and thinks you're right and everyone is wrong because "it's what the government wants you to think" That is literally your fucking play in a nutshell

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:59 pm

You want to know my town case for Dreal? It's that you're a player that literally fucks everything over because you don't listen to reason and bang your fucking head on the wall saying the same shit and end up being wrong and still dont change your fucking ways.

You do way to much harm to the town as town for Pine to think you'd be a better choice as scum.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:14 pm

In post 2765, drealmerz7 wrote:all in fun!! :þ

QFT

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:14 pm

Dreal, just to make sure, there are no hard feelings between us right?

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:15 pm

Cool shit

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:18 pm

Camn if you honestly expect a lynch today...lol

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:34 pm

Dreal are you forgetting that the scum are going to kill someone?

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:39 pm

In post 2784, drealmerz7 wrote:who do you think you guys will kill?

loaded

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:41 pm

Hey Camn, please kill Froot Loop

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:43 pm

What I'm doing to Camn right now

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Mon Jan 23, 2017 8:41 pm

VOTE: BTD6
VOTE: BTD6
VOTE: BTD6
VOTE: BTD6

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Mon Jan 23, 2017 8:44 pm

BTD6, you're going to have to tell me every damn detail you can about the role PM

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Mon Jan 23, 2017 8:45 pm

Who can you target?

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Mon Jan 23, 2017 8:50 pm

In post 2803, BTD6_maker wrote:I can target anyone else tonight
(other than Pine).

Lynch with fucking fire.

I'm Town 1-shot Eavesdropper. I directly counterclaim. The shot can be used at any night, I can target any player including Pine, hence why I asked him who he can target.

On the subsequent night of using the shot I'm allowed to PM Camn asking her to send me the next message they post, not what is the first post they make at night.

It's a fake claim.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Mon Jan 23, 2017 8:55 pm

Yeah Pine almost got lynched for it until Mastina came along.

Well pine now that you said it, my worst fear was you were going to no kill to torment us with more D1 pain.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:01 pm

Aeronaut isn't even voting but okay.

Also keep up the messed up vote counts, that's increasing your paygrade

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:04 pm

oh well shit

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:04 pm

Mastina, Nacho, Ari, Gin, Mono. That's 5 people

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:07 pm

In post 2818, Aristophanes wrote:Also Gin, lol @ being corrected by confscum

Oh shush

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:14 pm

One more and we can finally gain rest for this weary day

Aeronaut, I know but let's be real, there was no way to really show that it was a fake claim unless I did it full.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:16 pm

CAMN THANK YOU FOR THE DEADLINE EVEN THO I BITCHED ABOUT IT

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:18 pm

Apparently a lot of people like my sig

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:19 pm

Hey Pine, you gonna kill me like you did Twistzed?

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:01 am

In post 2832, mastina wrote:Huh.

Well that seems like an impossible coincidence.
BTD6 fakeclaiming a role that unusual, with it turning up actually in the game.

I'd say that we've found Pine's single choice of town role, though I REALLY wish Gin hadn't claimed it to be honest. Because that seems like it was the scum's goal here.
Any and all protective roles, focus on Gin please.
He's more important to keep alive than I am, or any potential scum kill. If he gets blocked, so be it, but him alive is the important part.

Think you do,
how I feel, you not.

Also if there was a possible way to show it was fake without claiming then good to know but 4am me who had to wake up at 7am me said me to me, "fuck that me."

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:42 am

Hey Vax read the whole thread

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:20 am

Okay cool, you already have 9 votes. You can drop the act.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Tue Jan 24, 2017 6:30 am

It's not that hard a concept that we don't have the same roles. The most glaring difference is he said he can't target Pine and I said I can. That tells you exactly that we don't have double role

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Tue Jan 24, 2017 6:37 am

Nacho holds supreme over Fate any day

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:48 am

LOL

BTD6 is at L+3 with 10 votes

Dreal, Vax and Katsuki haven't voted up BTD6, guys come on and have max wagon D1

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Tue Jan 24, 2017 12:08 pm

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:09 pm

Mastina masonized me

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:10 pm

VOTE: Katsuki

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:19 pm

NO. NO. IF Pine had any say in the roles, it would be hider. That shit causes a lot of issues and is ripe for scum manipulation.

We have one death, one death only. It would be worth looking into if there was two kills but we dont.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p8572916

Just read how much chaos it created when a hider died in the Hunger Games, Pine and I know how well you can fuck with the town. You make people's highest town reads look like scum reads.

P-Edit: So it begins

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:20 pm

wait no

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:22 pm

In post 62, camn wrote:
For clarity:
Pine was given a single request as to the setup of the TOWN. He was given total control over the setup of the scumteam.
I will update the OP for clarity.

In post 0, camn wrote:ROLES AND ALIGNMENTS ARE NOT RANDOM!

Pine: Hider, picked Nacho
Scum Team: strongman-hider Nacho

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:23 pm

For the record it doesn't change that I want Katsuki dead

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:23 pm

Dreal, you not read the part where I was masoned?

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:32 pm

Vax, apparently the masonry is a place for Mastina and I to have a tryst. Now that's funny, a little saucy, and will be quite fun.

Also to the point Mastina has said. One of us won't be alive come D3, Pine has no choice but to kill one of us and that will confirm either partner as town.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:36 pm

Nacho, myself and Mastina were the NK targets.

Either Nacho was strongman'd or was the regular kill and he hid behind scum.

Scum can't kill all 3 of us mate.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:38 pm

I swear to god just shut the fuck up and let the adults talk if you won't say anything productive.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:40 pm

I'm seriously starting to think Dreal is fake tunneling to get a free pass.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:42 pm

Well, it actually makes sense Vax, if you think about it, Mastina and I get to talk for one night and we are killed, Mono gives out information 1-shots. that's a lot more powerful than just being able to talk to a player.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:51 pm

We confirmed but we have been the most productive townies regardless, we are going to die N2 and N3 regardless of being conf! or not.

Would you roleblock a person that you were going to kill anyways or would you roleblock someone who could give inventions to other players in which they can catch scum?

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:04 pm

Hey Mastina, so I'm getting close to being able to remember what you said on each of your articles.

Think you can remember what one of your Insane Tells I'm thinking of right now?

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:18 pm

In post 3002, Katsuki wrote:NACHO WAS NK'ED BECAUSE HE PROBABLY TARGETED ME LEADING TO HIS ACTION FAILING

You know how Hiders work right?

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:23 pm

Damnit Ninja'd by Mastina

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:28 pm

In post 3011, Katsuki wrote:Don't pretend you've never played with me before Mastina I would never claim my role as town.

So I flip town, who's scum?
Because you've claimed one-shot masonrizer and the only time I've ever seen it in a game was WHEN MY OWN SCUMBUDDY CLAIMED TO HAVE ONE-SHOT MASONRIZED ME and we coasted to endgame off the back of that claim.

This is a really fucking dumb question

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:29 pm

In post 2988, mastina wrote:TheRealGin-N-Tonic
Aristophanes
SirCakez
-
Prism
Fate
Monokuma
-
Aeronaut
drealmerz
Vaxkiller
-
Katsuki

Again, a really fucking dumb question

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:52 pm

Katsuki is scum.

/Discuss.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Thu Jan 26, 2017 7:11 pm

In post 3025, Pine wrote:She threw up a LOT.

Me on Jan. 20, 2017

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Thu Jan 26, 2017 7:12 pm

Lynch Katsuki
Vig Dreal

yee

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:21 pm

Can we not make it so these puns go

viral

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:25 pm

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Fri Jan 27, 2017 2:35 am

vote my guy, then we vig dreal

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sun Jan 29, 2017 2:36 pm

VOTE: Aero

Funny, I like these Eavesdropper role.

So Aero, who ARE YOU GOING TO KILL?

Who is going to be conf!town if you flip?

Hmmmm?

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sun Jan 29, 2017 2:39 pm

Also, I was just leaving our little tryst and I can only assume the reason she was stabbed so brutally is because she looked her killer right in the eyes and said Fuck the haters. <3

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sun Jan 29, 2017 2:44 pm

Yeah, she wasn't a masonizer but she could use it in such a manner that it was an instantaneous shot. We talked all of N1 and we discussed the best course of action was to just say we were masoned. If you know Mastina at all, you know she treats neighborhoods as a masonry anyways.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sun Jan 29, 2017 2:45 pm

Also Pine, she says fuck you for lynching her in Mob money or something like that. She was only sus of you because it was lylo and she would have voted TwistedSpoon if he didn't vote her

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sun Jan 29, 2017 2:46 pm

I also don't think we have a Vig because dreal isn't dead lol

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sun Jan 29, 2017 2:48 pm

Camn, am I allowed to post Mastina's poem she wrote at the end?

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sun Jan 29, 2017 2:48 pm

In post 3115, Pine wrote:
TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Also Pine, she says fuck you for lynching her in Mob money or something like that. She was only sus of you because it was lylo and she would have voted TwistedSpoon if he didn't vote her
I don't remember that game? She's right, I should have drafted her.

I'm just the messenger.

Ironically enough, can you not shoot the messenger?

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sun Jan 29, 2017 2:51 pm

Wait, Pine, why in the fuck did you kill Mastina over me? I HAVE THE PR ROLE

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sun Jan 29, 2017 2:58 pm

Mastina's poem :p

As I say my goodbyes,
Here I do go,
Into the unknown,
After my life.

I've made a new friend,
Joyous buddy,
And as you see,
I leave with no regret.

The darkness may claim us,
One by one,
Yet when we're done,
We know we had enough.

If it's my time to go forth,
So I shall,
With my pal,
At the townbloc's core.

We accomplished a lot,
Yes we did,
So we'll win,
These are my final thoughts.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sun Jan 29, 2017 3:12 pm

you better go ahead and "claim"

Back up? That implies Mastina had to die before you could use a neighborizor. That implies you couldn't have talked to someone in a neighborhood until tomorrow night.

Nice try buddy

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sun Jan 29, 2017 3:13 pm

My role is I recon a player for a night, then the 2nd night I choose when I want to hear what their next post is, I said I wanted it as soon as night hit so I had the largest chance of actually getting a post from him. I got a post and all the names were redacted but that post came from Aero himself

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sun Jan 29, 2017 3:15 pm

It's a same night instant shot. Not during twilight, I can go back to N1 and paraphrase literally any post

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sun Jan 29, 2017 3:16 pm

Yee, and your point?

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sun Jan 29, 2017 3:16 pm

INSTANTANEOUS AS IN BEING ABLE TO TALK THE SAME NIGHT IT WAS USED. Lordy

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sun Jan 29, 2017 3:23 pm

Are you saying Mastina didn't use the neighborizer on me? Are you fucking stupid?

Spoiler: Mastina's opening post when she talked to me

I am not a one-shot masonizer.
I am, however, a one-shot neighborizer, with some extra restrictions.
While my role is called one-shot neighborizer, I also have the restriction of being odd-night only. Meaning, I either use this power now during N1, or wait until N3. I intend for the game to be over long before N3. If not, I intend to be dead long before N3 via scum nightkill. Basically, I sure as fuck wasn't gonna wait for N3, so I had to use it now.

Then came the interesting part.
I have one extra aspect of my role: it's instantaneous. I cannot be roleblocked or redirected. We get same-night chat, if you haven't already figured that out. So instead of using my power N1 and not getting to talk to you until N2, and instead of there being the risk of me targeting the nightkill without us speaking, and instead of my one fucking shot being roleblocked, I could use it to form...well, this.

Thus, why I lied. I lost nothing from claiming, because claiming does fuckall for terms of blocking me. The reason I claimed one-shot masonizer is threefold.
One, obviously, to bait the nightkill, get ME dead rather than, say, a vig. Or, failing that, to bait scum's PRs onto me, like, say, having them waste a roleblock on me.
Two, because given the unique aspect of my role, I not only figured there weren't any actual masons in the game, but ALSO figured that my role might have been INTENDED to be a masonizer, given the way it works.
Three, and this is the part which got me almost recruiting Nacho, I consider neighborhoods to be masonries anyway. There's unfortunately no way for you to verify that with Nacho without giving away the gambit, but trust me, he and many others can verify that I always treat my neighbor partners as town. In this case I got to choose who said partner was, but otherwise the principle remains the same.

Which brings me to my next point: final exam time.
In spite of you now knowing that I'm NOT a masonizer, if we both live, tomorrow we claim that you were successfully masonized. This is in fact, a gambit. There's the risk of a town PR having blocked me and asking how the fuck my action went through. In that case, I can reveal that my action was instantaneous, while still holding the illusion of it being a masonizer, thus, explaining to the town why I claimed. (In fact, this may be something to do even if we're not called out on it, but I could use feedback there.)

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sun Jan 29, 2017 3:25 pm

DUDE. THERE IS NO FUCKING POINT ARGUING THIS

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sun Jan 29, 2017 3:26 pm

Spoiler: A post that basically confirms we discussed shit N1

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sun Jan 29, 2017 3:27 pm

In post 3155, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:
Spoiler: A post that basically confirms we discussed shit N1
Well one thing I could use this thread for is to give out thoughts, but we already basically hashed that out in-thread.
Katsuki is still scum, period. No matter what, no matter other reads, Katsuki is scum.
Aeronaut may, or may not, be scum.
Monokuma may, or may not, be scum. (But has a useful power to the town regardless since if they're scum they're telling the truth about their powers.)
Vaxkiller may, or may not, be scum.
Going above there, we get SirCakez as probably not, but possibly, scum.
drealmerz is personally a may, or may not, be scum for me.

Yet Katsuki? Katsuki is just scum.

I trust you. I trust Nacho. I trust Aristophanes. I also trust Prism, in spite of you not doing so, because Prism's play is just...bizarre. Bizarre, in a way I just don't think could be scum. drealmerz, could be scum, yes. Fate, could be scum, yes. (Albeit unlikely.) Prism, I just don't feel is.

And that's more or less what I have to say on the subject of reads, which is...basically what I said in thread.
I feel like the thread got way too many pages. After our initial push on Katsuki, that was the ideal time for the day to end. That was the point where the useful stuff had been said. I flat-out skimmed or skipped the rest and none of that information beyond the essentials sunk into me because it couldn't. I just had no way of processing it. I shut down, in a sense, so I went on as you saw me.

So honestly, come D2, that's where I resume from.
(Also, the proxy I use is being a royal pain in the ass, refusing to work even though right now is a low-traffic time where there should be absolutely no reason for people to be using it and yet it's overloaded. But that's the consequences I pay from having been an idiot in my youth.)
Red Hood Rider

EBWOP

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sun Jan 29, 2017 3:28 pm

Mastina told me it was odd nights meaning she could use it N1 or N3 and she knew she wasn't going to live to that long. I'm fucking sorry she didn't give me the correct information apparently

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sun Jan 29, 2017 3:30 pm

In post 3160, camn wrote:
HEY MY BAD!

I mis - flipped. MASTINA WAS ODD NIGHT

There ya go cupcake

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sun Jan 29, 2017 3:32 pm

In post 3162, Aeronaut wrote:
In post 3129, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 3124, Aeronaut wrote:My role is a
Backup 1-shot Twilight Neighborizor.
Could be a scum backup.
Could be a fakeclaim.
Could be legit.

~However~
If it is legit, he wouldn't have had a PT to talk in until tonight when he neighbourized someone, being a backup and all.
So, Aero, you and Gin are clearly a 1V1.

Unless you have a different PT you'd like to enlighten us about.
(Now would be the time to do so)
I'm not in a PT, which makes it fairly obvious to me that Gin is gambiting here.

I honestly would have called him on the stuff from yesterday, but I mean at this point, he's very confident in himself, as you can see from literally any post Gin has made; Pine probably feels safe enough with the GIN-IS-TOWN stuff mastina spewed that he's going for me today.

That's the most sensical thing I can come up with.

Weaksauce, we all know I hard counter claimed BTD6 and I pushed his lynch because I knew his role to a T.

We all know I was one of the main heads in the town jam and pushed HARD for SAJ and then later Katsuki on D1 when everyone was ignoring him.

We know Mastina uses neighborhoods as pseudo-masonizers.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sun Jan 29, 2017 3:38 pm

Mastina fakeclaimed Masonizer, Aero "knew he was the back up masonizer" so he warded off the votes on Mastina for that reason. Now he claims neighborizer which is a different role.

-Credits to Mono

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sun Jan 29, 2017 3:41 pm

Oh yeah sure no problem.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Sun Jan 29, 2017 3:43 pm

In post 3188, Aeronaut wrote:Yeah, I'm a backup 1-shot masonizer.

There's another one in the game; I guess they can probably use that to get #3 after gin is gone tomorrow?

Im gonna cry