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Post Post #150 (ISO) » Mon Aug 21, 2017 12:38 pm

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In post 148, Cerberus v666 wrote:Because they aren't actually masons random. They lied and fake claimed masons on D1.
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Post Post #151 (ISO) » Mon Aug 21, 2017 12:40 pm

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Oh. Okies. :p
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Post Post #152 (ISO) » Mon Aug 21, 2017 1:36 pm

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In post 123, Firebringer wrote:I hate to complain about a setup but having three confirmed town and them all safe from kills makes this very difficult.
We aren't even playing that badly it's just setup barely seems to allow us maneuverability.

i guess it's role madness but still.
Role madness you shouldn't put confirmed town in.
Except none of them are explicitly safe from kills.

Random was killed. Sappho and Varsoon are a 50/50 shot if TWC decide they are the ones to protect, and and Yume was not given BG, but a Treestump.

Heck, a simple TWC kill would have changed the game drastically!

So thats not really totally legit.
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Post Post #153 (ISO) » Mon Aug 21, 2017 1:54 pm

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In post 1135, The Wood Cutters wrote:
In post 1084, Radical Rat wrote:I am an Axolotl, one-shot deathproof. I do not get told when an attempted kill is made.
I buy this by the way!

The problem is we deflected V-->The OTHER RR, meaning that any nightkill targeting V would land on you, so.

You basically just confirmed that V was the nightkill last night. :mrgreen:
Blatant lie or confusion?

Reasonably Rational was already dead last night. They redirected tue Varsoon kill onto Rad Rat.
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Post Post #154 (ISO) » Mon Aug 21, 2017 2:05 pm

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Wtf is firebringer doing? Literally nothing about his play since he replaced in has done anything to make him like to live.
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Post Post #155 (ISO) » Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:31 pm

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btw Cerby.
If you want to fakeclaim IC next time.
Do it right ;)
(I fakeclaimed 1-shot Desperado and shot scum. Yeah scum had a dayvigi go ask mastina why she thought that was a good idea)
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Post Post #156 (ISO) » Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:36 am

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ok no one picked up on RR's slip and hes calling it MyLo now which is good
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Post Post #157 (ISO) » Sun Aug 27, 2017 2:07 pm

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Mastina is trying to break my game but doesn't realize that anything Varsoon invents is gonna be super low power now, no matter what he intends, that Gerry is lying about being a Cop, that Shiro actually has useful actions left still, or that there is legit no busdriver! lol

However, her theoreticals hurt my head man!
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Post Post #158 (ISO) » Sun Aug 27, 2017 2:30 pm

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In post 729, mastina wrote:To lay it out in greater detail:
TONIGHT, NIGHT FOUR:
-gerryoat cops Radical Rat.
-Yume tracks gerryoat with the delayed track.
-We deflect Varsoon-->Shiro.
-Varsoon gives a powerful gift to Yume.
-Scum PROBABLY kill The Wood Cutters, though the game is easier if they don't. :P

DAY FIVE:
-gerryoat outs his cop result.
-If innocent, we lynch Shiro. (This is my expected outcome.)
-If guilty, we lynch Radical Rat.

NIGHT FIVE:
-Yume uses their powerful gift as best appropriate. If a roleblock/track/follow/etc. which can catch the last scum, target whichever of Shiro/Radical Rat was not lynched.
-Varsoon gifts to Yume (presumably a vig but it can be anything).
-Scum PROBABLY kill Varsoon, though the game is easier if they don't.

DAY SIX:
-Yume receives the result of the track on gerryoat. (If gerryoat did not target who he said he did, he's scum.)
-Yume also has the information from the usage of their role.
-Yume outs this information.
-From this information, it can be determined which of gerryoat/the survivor is scum.
-Lynch appropriately.

I need this plan fact-checked. But we know:
-Scum cannot self-busdrive. As a result, they cannot gain a gift.
-Scum cannot trump our deflect with a busdrive. As a result, they cannot interfere with Varsoon as long as we live.
-Scum likely have a busdrive. As a result, they may be able to cause actions targeting one town player to instead hit a different town player. HOWEVER, this is of little consequence, since they cannot self-busdrive and as a result they are unable to mess with investigatives. A cop targeting town will either get a result on THAT town, or a DIFFERENT town. A cop targeting scum will get a guaranteed result on scum. And so on and so forth.

I'm trying to figure out how to lock this down even further, to accommodate for every possibility, for every busdrive that could be taken, for every redirect action (unlikely as that could be) being taken, for every possible truth or lie, but I think this is pretty solid?
This is good, but it has its problems!

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Post Post #159 (ISO) » Sun Aug 27, 2017 2:39 pm

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Hi my name is Tarhalindur welcome to Mind Screw.
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Post Post #160 (ISO) » Sun Aug 27, 2017 2:51 pm

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In post 159, Alisae wrote:Hi my name is Tarhalindur welcome to Mind Screw.
:lol:

She's still going too! If my head explodes, we know why :P
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Post Post #161 (ISO) » Sun Aug 27, 2017 3:14 pm

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BTW, did I note that I have not told Yume what any of the inventions she received are? I alerted her to them being from Varsoon, as he is loud, but she is just making assumptions as to what he is giving her. That's why she thinks she has a BP Vest when she actually has a Treestump.
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Post Post #162 (ISO) » Mon Aug 28, 2017 4:23 am

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lmao i just read up on the animals thread
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Post Post #163 (ISO) » Mon Aug 28, 2017 4:46 am

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It's pretty good, eh? :P
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Post Post #164 (ISO) » Mon Aug 28, 2017 10:03 pm

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interesting tactics coming out
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Post Post #165 (ISO) » Mon Aug 28, 2017 10:41 pm

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btw Ari
there was a better way to go about this post restriction.
Instead of force replacing players at 10 strikes
you should make them take 1 less vote to lynch at every 5th infraction after 5.
Like at 10 someone would take 1 less vote to lynch
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Post Post #166 (ISO) » Mon Aug 28, 2017 11:52 pm

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Yeah, I never would have come up with that one :P
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Post Post #167 (ISO) » Mon Aug 28, 2017 11:57 pm

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I feel like if it was that then I wouldn't have made an attempt to get myself policy lynched if I got that role.
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Post Post #168 (ISO) » Tue Aug 29, 2017 12:38 am

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In post 167, Alisae wrote:I feel like if it was that then I wouldn't have made an attempt to get myself policy lynched if I got that role.
I mean, Gerry hasnt
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Post Post #169 (ISO) » Tue Aug 29, 2017 12:39 am

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Its not that bad a restriction imo
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Post Post #170 (ISO) » Tue Aug 29, 2017 12:39 am

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Btw,
In post 148, Radical Rat wrote:For those of you watching at home, the scheme is to lynch Shiro and NK Gerry

Then I use TWC's survival as evidence that they WERE scum the whole time
They get lynched, I NK Varsoon, Yume and I are left and we tie!
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Post Post #171 (ISO) » Tue Aug 29, 2017 12:44 am

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That's going to be rough considering Drixx and Cerby's interactions with TWC point to TWC being heavily town.
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Post Post #172 (ISO) » Tue Aug 29, 2017 12:45 am

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Yeah I don't think that'll work.

Sure they lynch Shiro, but I don't see MyLo ending with either A. a No Lynch or B. RR's lynch.
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Post Post #173 (ISO) » Tue Aug 29, 2017 12:48 am

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In post 1, Aristophanes wrote:Let's make it Loy-Al-Phoenix - Target one player. If they are aligned with town, they immediately die. (1-shot Loyal Anytime Vig) (This is probably the most clever thing I will do this game!!! XD)
Question, if this was used during the day and Yume shot RR what would happen?

This is really dangerous to be giving to inventing at this stage of the game.
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Post Post #174 (ISO) » Tue Aug 29, 2017 1:04 am

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In post 173, Alisae wrote:
In post 1, Aristophanes wrote:Let's make it Loy-Al-Phoenix - Target one player. If they are aligned with town, they immediately die. (1-shot Loyal Anytime Vig) (This is probably the most clever thing I will do this game!!! XD)
Question, if this was used during the day and Yume shot RR what would happen?

This is really dangerous to be giving to inventing at this stage of the game.
I announce that nothing happened anh confusion insues :P
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