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Post Post #1300 (ISO) » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:51 am

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In post 1298, UnaBombaH wrote:Tacos/red or something.
?
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Post Post #1301 (ISO) » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:51 am

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In post 1297, AnonymousGhost wrote:Saltiness.

If you'd read my post,
not just skimmed it
, you'd notice that I'm in the process of building a case against momo.
then dont write posts more than 3 sentences easy
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Post Post #1302 (ISO) » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:52 am

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Post Post #1303 (ISO) » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:52 am

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tacos was never in this game lol
red got replaced
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Post Post #1304 (ISO) » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:53 am

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In post 1290, AnonymousGhost wrote:momo - His early statement that he doesn't believe in town reads was ironic given that he handed a few of those out throughout D1. 683 and 717 are hedgy. Momo claims (683) that both Impede and Creature are scum, but says that Impede should be lynched first because of "more info" but doesn't explain what sort of information we could gain.

Momo says this again and again but never explains what sort of information we'd gain. At a later point when Impede's wagon is loosing traction, Momo undermines his statements on Scum!Impede saying that Impede is not the scummiest lynch candidate. Instead, favoring a Creature wagon saying that "he has more content than redflavor in the effort to make himself appear towny, but is scummy" (717). He undermines this again in 729 when he address that "While I think both - (Creature & Impede) - are scummy ... i think impede flip, no matter what it is, provides more information which we could use right now" with no mention of RedFlavor at all.

- Your momo read is uninformed I think by the context of his conversation with Jay. Check my, momo's, or Impede's ISOs to find it and read it in context. I said something like "momo just rocketed to the top of my townlist". Let me know what you think.
Town reads early game are frowned upon...yet the way the game got played resulted in a lot of people becoming obv town.....they are still reads however and not irreversible...this is what I was really trying to say

I did flip flop between creature and impede...I was confused...I thought impede would give more info...was not considering red because it wouldn't really change the game state...not an ideal D1 lynch....eventually math pushed impede, brought about a read change...I considered it , and decided that Creature would by far be safer...I was confused....think that is more town than scum

I am not a perfect player people...hell I'm not even that great at mafia..but I think I have a good, town handle on this game...good post by the way ag...I really wish i was an investigative role at this point
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- But reading momo I feel like he is the that player that if he got pressured as town, he would be like fuck and yall and move on with whatever else he was doing
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- Like, Momo is the most mislynchable player on all of mafiascum right now. I'm not day 1 lynching him.
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- As it stands, momo is a great player or maybe the most mislynchable player on the site right now
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Post Post #1305 (ISO) » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:55 am

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momo alisae wants to know if you still want to do her anything upick

also that post is like
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it's mostly a fluffy ate defense
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Post Post #1306 (ISO) » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:56 am

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In post 1305, sheepsaysmeep wrote:momo alisae wants to know if you still want to do her anything upick

also that post is like
really bad
it's mostly a fluffy ate defense
yeah I still want in...should i tell alisae???
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- But reading momo I feel like he is the that player that if he got pressured as town, he would be like fuck and yall and move on with whatever else he was doing
Boonskies
- Like, Momo is the most mislynchable player on all of mafiascum right now. I'm not day 1 lynching him.
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- As it stands, momo is a great player or maybe the most mislynchable player on the site right now
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Post Post #1307 (ISO) » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:58 am

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waht do you think lol
yeah go to the singup thread i guess

game related: im town btw
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Post Post #1308 (ISO) » Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:22 am

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In post 1300, AnonymousGhost wrote:
In post 1298, UnaBombaH wrote:Tacos/red or something.
?
Might have mixed up games. :oops:
This is why I dislike playing on mobile - I don't have all the facts available all the time like I do at home.
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Post Post #1309 (ISO) » Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:24 am

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In post 1296, momo wrote:
In post 1280, sheepsaysmeep wrote:VOTE: momo
Naked vote really sheep -_-

you have disappointed me

You are now in the scummy af section

Out of the blue voting me because of want...the fact that I was scum hunting

Get your vote of me now

Genuinely considering a sheep wagon at this point...not as scummy as screen/assemble but if I need to compromise, I will
A little over exaggerated isn’t momo?

I skimmed sheeps iso.
These are all of their votes this game.
In post 239, sheepsaysmeep wrote:momo, is there any specific reason as to why you asked me waht i think of you? was it just bc i posted a readlist?

anywho VOTE: red l-3 or smth
im comfortable having my vote here
In post 256, sheepsaysmeep wrote:VOTE: jay
In post 445, sheepsaysmeep wrote:VOTE: red
i'll read the impede case later
In post 673, sheepsaysmeep wrote:VOTE: impede
bad reaction
more pressure
In post 731, sheepsaysmeep wrote:UNVOTE: until i read dino's response
In post 1280, sheepsaysmeep wrote:VOTE: momo

So momo, what else was you expecting?
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Post Post #1310 (ISO) » Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:25 am

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In a side note.
Sheep is now on page 2 of their iso.
And that’s all of their votes.
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Post Post #1311 (ISO) » Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:26 am

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In post 1264, havingfitz wrote:
In post 1133, Mathdino wrote:Chance of 5 Ts: 6/32 = 19%
In post 1165, Mathdino wrote:2. I no one claims any of the roles I listed, we are in TTTTT almost definitely, which is fantastic.
In post 1031, yessiree wrote:
Creature has been lynched.

Creature was a
Mafia 1-Shot Bus Driver.
TTTTT = Mafia Goon,
Mafia 1-Shot Bus Driver
, Serial Killer
1T is possible. The fact that no one claimed the roles I listed is useless because this playerlist seems to hate claim ideas. 1T would involve Maf Goon, Maf Bus Driver, Maf JOAT, and SK.

I'm heavily leaning towards doing the minimalist claim idea so we can definitively prove how many scum there are. There are more than a few players assuming one way or the other that can definitely be read based on which setup is correct.
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Post Post #1312 (ISO) » Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:32 am

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In post 1278, Srceenplay wrote:VOTE: momo
In post 1280, sheepsaysmeep wrote:VOTE: momo
In post 1281, UnaBombaH wrote:Yea, back to scum reading Momo the most.
And company on the wagon too?!?

VOTE: momo
Every single one of these votes needs to be explained in full. momo has done nothing in the past couple pages that looks scum motivated outside of general awkwardness. If you want to definitively prove he's the most mislynchable player in MS, go ahead. But your gut is not end-all-be-all.
In post 1286, UnaBombaH wrote:I had a cute scenario in my head, where the scum team was Dino, A50, momo.
Now that I know it's not the case, I had to reevaluate my read on momo, since A50 was actually main suspect and the others were mainly drawn from associations.
I still think the interactions around A50 were scummy, but now it would implicate momo and Dino, since A50 flipped green. :]
In post 1298, UnaBombaH wrote:I can bet there's 0 scum coming to quick hammer him.
Momo is by far the best lynch today, we leave an inactive slot for the vig.
Get your head out of your ass, Una. Do you literally have any townreads? It's like your whole game is generating paranoia around the most present (in mind) players.

Explain exactly what interactions were scummy. And no, 2 people putting each other at the top of their reads lists is not an inherently scummy interaction.

Also, there's no vig, so wtf with "inactive players can be left to the vig"??? Between SK and mafia, do you really think momo/I will live to endgame anyway?
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Post Post #1313 (ISO) » Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:49 am

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In post 1310, Srceenplay wrote:In a side note.
Sheep is now on page 2 of their iso.
And that’s all of their votes.
Every other naked vote sheep's made has been in response to a legitimate case by another player.

Red was a top suspect early on.
Jay vote happened during Jay vs Impede.
Forgot where 2nd Red Vote was from.
Impede vote came after my minicase on Impede.
Unvote came after me being like NO WAIT GUYS THAT WAS WRONG.

I can see why momo would see a difference with this last vote, given that
no one has given full reasons for this shit
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Post Post #1314 (ISO) » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:12 am

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Still at work but skimmed the last few pages.

@Fitz I pulled my vote because I was waiting on Kop to respond to me or something pressing came up.

@Anon if it makes you feel better my sheep vote after Math asked for more votes on Kop was because if laziness and wanting to see if it would draw up any discussion from the players as that moment I think the thread was pretty inactive. You're the only one that seemed to care I sheeped what Math said instantly. Which is funny no one wanted to call out my hypocracy considering I've talked about two other players (momo and sheep) being directly influenced or sleeping whatever math says.

Momo votes are sus but momo naturally has sloppy play as scum and as town, so I'm not surprised I'll do more later.

Kay back to work. If anyone has questions @me and I'll try and get to them.
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Post Post #1315 (ISO) » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:14 am

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In post 1314, Hawk wrote:Still at work but skimmed the last few pages.

@Fitz I pulled my vote because I was waiting on Kop to respond to me or something pressing
to come
up.

@Anon if it makes you feel better my sheep vote after Math asked for more votes on Kop was because if laziness and wanting to see if it would draw up any discussion from the players as that moment I think the thread was pretty inactive. You're the only one that seemed to care I sheeped what Math said instantly. Which is funny no one wanted to call out my hypocracy considering I've talked about two other players (momo and sheep) being directly influenced or
sheeping
whatever math says.

Momo votes are sus but momo naturally has sloppy play as scum and as town, so I'm not surprised I'll do more later.

Kay back to work. If anyone has questions @me and I'll try and get to them.
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Post Post #1316 (ISO) » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:14 am

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In post 1313, Mathdino wrote:no one has given full reasons for this shit.
I’ve implied.
It seems AnonymousGhost is on the same thought line as me.
UnaBombaH has obviously also on the same page. Even states as much.
Sheep voting as well implies to me that they agree.
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Post Post #1317 (ISO) » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:18 am

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In post 1272, momo wrote:I honestly don't know...he's scummy...that's all I got...
she
also do you want to like
talk about this more
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Post Post #1318 (ISO) » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:20 am

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lmao read momo's iso
he's been coasting for a longass time
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Post Post #1319 (ISO) » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:22 am

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The fuck do you think coasting is?

His D2 play has consisted of:

1. Being the first one to genuinely come up with a Screenplay case
2. Attacking shit votes on me (and then pushing Screenplay with more reasons)
3. Expanding his cone of vision and giving other reads/options
4. Defending against shit accusations against himself.
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Post Post #1320 (ISO) » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:29 am

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like if he did provide his own reasons he stopped a while ago
he just dropped this list and he's like
maybe this because this is scummier than this
no this is still worse than this

and that's not defending

also dont like the way math auto defends momo
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Post Post #1321 (ISO) » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:34 am

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Fuck it. I'm gonna get flak for this. I can't keep doing this.

Let it be known that I am declaring this day worthless if we can't even figure out how many scum there are left. So yes, I am deliberately rolefishing for SPECIFIC ROLES.


Everyone (including me) is making associatives based on some made up idea of what we're up against. fitz on the other hand is strongly assuming there's 1 mafia left, which is a major townslip if proven wrong. Then it looks like there's a 4-man block basing everything around momo/Dino.

@sheep:
Are you one of the following roles: {Tracker, Gunsmith, 1-shot Commuter}. Answer a strict 'yes' or 'no'. Do not specific claim.
I am not. I'm gonna end up asking everyone but if anyone else wants to butt in on this feel free.
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Post Post #1322 (ISO) » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:34 am

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EBWOP: I worded that badly.

So yes, I am deliberately rolefishing for a YES or a NO to a SPECIFIC SET OF ROLES.
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Post Post #1323 (ISO) » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:36 am

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I am not any of those 3 roles dino.
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Post Post #1324 (ISO) » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:36 am

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no stop that can be easily faked

nah i want other ppl to talk abt this first

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