Micro 782: Jester Nightless - Game Over!

[Bicephalous Bob]

I've been thinking arch was jester

why? are you randomly generating reads?

[Bicephalous Bob]

Elli, why did you think Cooldog was less likely to be the jester than Archwing? Archwing seemed genuinely adamant that he would not be wagoned, while we hadn't seen how Cooldog responded to pressure at all.

level 1: yeah lynch me (see not mafia)
level 2: noo don't lynch me (see archwing)
level 3: no pressure on, no indication of wanting to be wagoned (see cooldog)

For all posts prior to this one level 3 is the safe spot.

Archwing is not playing the "nooo don't lynch me" type. He's playing an assertive guy who should not be lynched, and he's playing it in a way that (on Mafiascum) typically prevents lynches. Read his d1 counterpush and tell me he didn't put his heart into that stuff.

[mutantdevle]

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You misunderstood me. The posts you referred to were not minutes apart. But your reasoning was obviously FAKE because of these posts minutes apart.
And no, the later portions of a lynch are not always the most suspicious. Scum can push wagons early, after all, even start them. So, if you are scum why didn't you push early?
The answer is easy- you didn't have any sound reasons!
Yes you said that you were leaning scum... but you didn't say why at all!

I apologise for not understanding you properly. Unfortunately, your argument is simply your opinions vs my word and opinion. My reasoning was not fake. Mistakingly thinking that the Jester would avoid posting in the thread at L-1 instead of self-hammering doesn't mean that I don't think we would have lost the game regardless of whether or not I hammered if cooldog was Jester is a fake opinion. If anything, thinking the Jester would avoid the thread at L-1 is a fake opinion since I clearly stated before this I believed they would hammer. However, my comment that his lack of posting in the thread despite having been online was simply an idiotic moment where I posted without thinking. We all have 'blonde moments', it's part of human nature.

As for not having sound reasons, I didn't really need any... Let's look at the votes on the wagon:

VOTE: Cooldog
That one is probably not a jester. We do not want to lynch a jester so let's lynch them.

Foundation. IMO, a scummy reason to vote for someone due to the inherent nature of it involving lynching town read, but obviously the town agrees that we should be lynching people we collectively don't think is the Jester.

Fairly sure cooldog and kokichi aren't jesters so they're good lynches.

raise*

Vote: Cooldog

Agrees with you, so votes too.

Sure, let's get this game moving.

VOTE: Cooldog

No reason whatsoever.

shit. VOTE: CoolDog

L - 1

Again, no reason.

And then finally I vote with the valid reasons that a) if he was the Jester he'd self-hammer anyway and B) I scum lean him which I have previously mentioned. I could have easily joined the sheep brigade by either giving no reason or simply saying I agree with the notion that we should be lynching Jester candidates. I wouldn't have needed anything more than that to blend in. Why, as scum, would I single myself out by having a unique reason to be on the wagon when I could have just used other's and gone unnoticed?

And yes, I never specifically stated why I scum leant them. I haven't explained any of my other reads either, and, in case you haven't noticed, there are quite a few people who either have not even given any reads let alone explained them. I'm not the only person who hasn't explained all of my reads and, typically, I don't tend to unless I'm asked. I'm an ask-and-you-shall-receive kind of player. If you ever want to know something from me, all you gotta do is ask.

[Bicephalous Bob]

Elli, why did you think Cooldog was less likely to be the jester than Archwing? Archwing seemed genuinely adamant that he would not be wagoned, while we hadn't seen how Cooldog responded to pressure at all.

level 1: yeah lynch me (see not mafia)
level 2: noo don't lynch me (see archwing)
level 3: no pressure on, no indication of wanting to be wagoned (see cooldog)

For all posts prior to this one level 3 is the safe spot.

Archwing is not playing the "nooo don't lynch me" type. He's playing an assertive guy who should not be lynched, and he's playing it in a way that (on Mafiascum) typically prevents lynches. Read his d1 counterpush and tell me he didn't put his heart into that stuff.

wait, that was d2

Also, you said that you were confident that you'd be able to win 3v2 as town. This requires that you'd bring two other townies to lylo who are also able to solve the game. Who are those townies?

I'll figure it out tomorrow.
Depends on today's flip and who the jester is so.
Worst case I'll solve the game and get whoever's left to sheep me.

also 3-2 we need to lynch correctly, but then it'll be 3-1 and we have another spare mislynch.
Makes life easier.

3v2 nightless has a 20% town EV. We are not lynching town today.

[Bicephalous Bob]

VOTE: archwing

zzzx, this is your chance to become confirmed town without doing anything

[Ellibereth]

lol you clearly don't know who I am

It's 99% EV town wins 3-2 since I'm part of the 3.

[Ellibereth]

Sup

This was the post that made me suspect ellibereth as Jester.
Posts no vote but short fluff on RVS.
Their ominous reasoning(them just saying "exercise 1 and exercise 2") without saying why also points to them as Jester.
Keep your votes off them for now.

Yo we need to work together tomorrow since you're probably town too.
So don't use these dumb shit reasons to call me scum tmrw when I do similar things in every game okay? ty.

[Bicephalous Bob]

lol you clearly don't know who I am

It's 99% EV town wins 3-2 since I'm part of the 3. :)

ok but why can't you just use your superior insight to lynch scum today instead of chainlynching town. are you too insecure of your ability to differentiate between scum and the jester?

[Bicephalous Bob]

Archwing is not playing the "nooo don't lynch me" type. He's playing an assertive guy who should not be lynched, and he's playing it in a way that (on Mafiascum) typically prevents lynches. Read his d1 counterpush and tell me he didn't put his heart into that stuff.

also, you forgot to do this

[Kokichi Oma]

I've been thinking arch was jester

why? are you randomly generating reads?

His votes have been random and I think he's looking for a lynch

[Kokichi Oma]

I'm fine with a mutant lynch

[Ellibereth]

lol you clearly don't know who I am

It's 99% EV town wins 3-2 since I'm part of the 3.

ok but why can't you just use your superior insight to lynch scum today instead of chainlynching town. are you too insecure of your ability to differentiate between scum and the jester?

yes

[Ellibereth]

i mean just scum is muscle memory
jester's are new and I would need to put in work and I don't feel like putting in work kek

[Ellibereth]

and lets be honest everyone only inned for this shitty settup to roll jester so the game's zzz when you don't get it

[Bicephalous Bob]

I'm fine with a mutant lynch

that's another townread of mine. do you actually think he's scum? his wagon consists of not "wrong therefore scum" known and the guy you think is jester, with support from elli who tries to chainlynch town of all things

I can see jester!archwing, but we shouldn't try to lynch town (20% EV!), even perfectly null reads are better

I'm willing to lynch zzzx and elli

[Bicephalous Bob]

to be clear, if we mislynch today, town has a 20% of winning assuming random lynches

[Bicephalous Bob]

VOTE: elli

[Kokichi Oma]

I forgot zzzx was in this game.

[Kokichi Oma]

I'll literally vote anyone from now on, I am over this game, everyone is scummy. I think bob may be town now.

VOTE: Elli

[mutantdevle]

Ehh, I don't think I support an Elli lynch.

zzzx sounds much better, unless anyone would like to argue that they are a lurking Jester?

[Kokichi Oma]

They might jester

[mutantdevle]

Thank you for your very insightful post. You have successfully swayed my opinion.

[Not Known 15]

Ellibereth is possibly J E S T E R. Do not go that road.Worse, if they are not Jester they are probably town. Keep away from them.

[Kokichi Oma]

Then who do you want lynched? Cause everyone but like 1 person is scummy. I just want this game over with

[Not Known 15]

Then who do you want lynched? Cause everyone but like 1 person is scummy. I just want this game over with

That's still mutantdevle
VOTE: mutantdevle