Forgotten Hourglass [Game Over]

[Spiffeh]

hello everyone I am town and that is all you need to know

[Spiffeh]

I promise

[Spiffeh]

VOTE: Nosferatu

[Spiffeh]

i believe that

i don't really believe what ankamius said in #5 though

Why do you believe that I am town already?

Also fyi I would like all further discussion to center around me, that way I can't miss anything when I CTRL-F my name

TIA

[Spiffeh]

MariaR thank you for following directions however I would prefer if my name was not in vote format

[Spiffeh]

If I try to lynch you it's not off of nothing you silly Ankamius you

Also Maria do you actually scum read me or are you just having fun with ruining my CTRL-F strategy

[Spiffeh]

So guys who are the scum?!?!?!?!?

[Spiffeh]

hi Wisdom

[Spiffeh]

Nancy, you admit yourself that your early game is inconsistent but when you're wagoned you say that they shouldn't be scum reading you here because of how you acted in the beginning of Necromancer.

Also, what reasons did you think they have for voting for you? I didn't find any explanations from them so I'm curious as to why you reacted this passionately.

[Spiffeh]

Some would argue that there won’t be any meaningful contribution before votes actually count.

Also why?

[Spiffeh]

I think the ppl that want to hurry up the start of the day are scum/dont care that we may end up in a deadline rush like in minuet's D1.

Like who?

[Spiffeh]

lol

[Spiffeh]

I'm waitin' for it
that green light
I want it

[Spiffeh]

Me flipping scum is an impossibility

You all should just accept that now so I don’t have to deal with it in the future

[Spiffeh]

I appreciate your responsiveness

[Spiffeh]

Guys Cupcake-suki might be scum

[Spiffeh]

If I try to lynch you it's not off of nothing you silly Ankamius you

I just realized Brian Skies said this and not Ankamius I should really pay attention

[Spiffeh]

I promise I'm gonna do things with this game today

[Spiffeh]

hi yes I know I went back on my promise and didn't catch up yesterday

But tonight for sure I'm gonna catch up

Friendly reminder that I am town and voting for me only advances a scum win condition!

[Spiffeh]

hey guys I'm a little tipsy but I promised to catch up tonight so here I am!

Sakura I challenge you to look at all my recent town games. I understand why you're going after me based on what you remember from like two years ago but most of the games I've played recently are much more laid back and not nearly as obvtown off the bat as I used to be

I also challenge you to find a scum game where I was as 'useless' as I have been so far.

Anyway I'm gonna read the game now but don't have unrealistic expectations or you might be sorely disappointed!

[Spiffeh]

idk what Ank is trying to pull with her whole "it's cool to not care" schtick, but I don't think she would be this unresponsive as scum.

I've played with and correctly identified scum!Ankamius several times (admittedly years ago) and as scum she tries to sound important/helpful which is completely absent here.

She could be playing like this deliberately to counteract my ability to read her but for now it's not worth exploring that

[Spiffeh]

Hard disagree you can set in apathy the longer the day goes along with the fact some people might simply want to vote and pressure people I don't think it's really AI the way people are pushing for deadline. I don't really like this line of thinking mostly because I don't understand why you think it's scummy...well that's not true I do get what you're saying but I simply think you're wrong and trying to find reasons to scumread people. Although I should ask who are the people who were in your words "scummy for pushing it."

I didn't mind the fact that he wasn't starting the voting, I have a problem with how he devoted a whole long post to how pro-town it was to make sure everyone contributed before starting the real Day and in the meantime doing nothing himself to actually contribute

[Spiffeh]

This is literally the kind of posting you like to make as scum

you're clearly not an authority on the differences between my scum and town game

though i'm not sure you'd actually push this angle as scum. probably not

Can you explain why you wouldn't expect her to do this as scum?

[Spiffeh]

Guys Cupcake-suki might be scum

I don't really agree with this anymore and also don't exactly remember what made me even post this lol

It might have been his Nancy vote who I think is pretty transparently town and pretty much the opposite of "forced" but cupcake having unintelligible reasons for reads is kind of the norm

[Spiffeh]

or autobiographies of my scanned butt pictures for 40 pages

this please

[Spiffeh]

Sakura are you still scum reading Muffin? If not can you explain why?

[Spiffeh]

Moment what do you think of Dunnstral?

[Spiffeh]

Ok I believe you because I doubt you'd lie about something you're literally asking me to find.

I'm a little surprised you let me off the hook this easily?

I thought it made sense that you would be hard on me based on your experience with town!me, but immediately letting it go doesn't really jive with how you were pressuring me before. Can you explain why you moved on so quickly?

[Spiffeh]

All caught up

VOTE: Dunnstral

I think this is very worthy of a wagon

I'm town reading Nancy and Purrcocet pretty hard. Ank and kind of Maria are town leans atm

I'm pretty underwhelmed with Muffin and that could be a byproduct of the game being really slow but I feel like I remember him at least TRYING to be more helpful in his town games?

[Spiffeh]

Not a read I'd be confident in. Gun to my head, town.

[Spiffeh]

Purrcocet ignore your incorrect feelings about me and vote for Dunn maybe?

[Spiffeh]

I feel like I played with Dunn once and he was really obviously town

I might try to find that later

[Spiffeh]

Maria campaigning against my plan to get lurkers to contribute and then saying not to lynch the lurker

It's one or the other

Same for Spiffeh

Uh I never said not to lynch a lurker

Do you have any reads to share?

[Spiffeh]

Purrcocet let's play a game

Assume I'm town.

Now maintain that assumption for the rest of the game and never question it.

Town is now one step closer to winning, thanks for playing!

[Spiffeh]

Do you have any reads to share?

Yes

Is there a reason you're not explaining them?

[Spiffeh]

I didn't mind the fact that he wasn't starting the voting, I have a problem with how he devoted a whole long post to how pro-town it was to make sure everyone contributed before starting the real Day and in the meantime doing nothing himself to actually contribute

@TehBrawlGuy my reason for voting Dunn

[Spiffeh]

Yeah sorry don't really have any super confident scum reads rn

[Spiffeh]

Do you believe that the hypocrisy that you're pointing out is more reason to believe that Dunnstral is scum? I think in and of itself hypocrisy isn't a very reliable scumtell.

It's more the amount of words he devoted to saying it that bothers me. It seemed like he needed to look like he was doing something so he decided to put a bunch of effort in explaining the pros of waiting to vote which is ultimately pretty useless and he hasn't done much since

It's not a read I'm married to he's just the player I'm most willing to vote for rn idk

[Spiffeh]

I was contributing and I got sakura town out of that, the mod stepped in before I could get any other reads

What about Sakura's reaction to it makes you think she's town?

[Spiffeh]

I'm interested to hear your reasoning on Maria being town.

It's just gut really

My most recent completed game had scum!Maria in it and she was disengaged and pretty transparent so the fact that I feel the exact opposite on both accounts here is enough reason for me to town lean her for now

[Spiffeh]

If Muffin doesn't do anything helpful before the end of the Day he should die sooner rather than later

[Spiffeh]

I predict that Wisdom is gonna still want to lynch me after he reads my posts

[Spiffeh]

He shouldn't, but he will

regardless of his alignment

[Spiffeh]

guys don't let the evil people lynch me

[Spiffeh]

VOTE: spiffeh

I think this is better

Can you explain why you're scum reading me?

[Spiffeh]

I mean it just seemed like an overly thoughtful explanation on something that wasn't all that important

I get why you felt the need to explain yourself, I just felt weird about the amount of effort you put into it

Sorry fam, don't really have any confident scum reads atm

[Spiffeh]

You mean how he was explaining why he wanted to do it when you asked him 'why?'

The fact that he was responding to me doesn't make me feel differently???

[Spiffeh]

ok I'm going back to doing nothing

[Spiffeh]

You mean how he was explaining why he wanted to do it when you asked him 'why?'

The fact that he was responding to me doesn't make me feel differently???

The reason I bring it up is because his original explanation was much more concise and reasonable, and that's the one you challenged him on.

Alright, I see some people are getting rowdy so I'll lay down some terms for me starting us off:

I want everyone to have meaningful contribution before votes go flying.

Reasonable?

Yes, I asked him why he wanted people to contribute significantly before voting began. His explanation for that was so ridiculously incongruous with everything he had provided up to that point and since then, so it stuck out to me. So, I called him out on it and voted.

Again, I'm not married to the read. His recent stuff makes me feel slightly better, but that could be him gaining more constant at the increase in pressure I'm receiving. I'm struggling to really find anything scummy about anyone else and the amount of votes I'm getting makes it pretty unlikely that I'll bother trying.

[Spiffeh]

Also for the record if I were scum here none of you would know it

[Spiffeh]

I'm the one who controlled the vote, and I got a discussion going. I was getting engaged right there, I got shut down within 30 minutes to an hour of my post or something.

And now you're all like "I'm struggling to really find anything scummy about anyone else" after bashing on what I was doing and seeing how the playerlist decided to play without my iron fist

I don't understand how any of this is a response to my qualms with you

It feels like you're just riding the momentum of my wagon without actually saying anything?

[Spiffeh]

Hey fun fact if you guys lynch me today this will be the first time I've been mislynched in over 2 years

You should be so proud!

[Spiffeh]

I predict that Wisdom is gonna still want to lynch me after he reads my posts

He shouldn't, but he will

regardless of his alignment

Wisdom you're so predictable

[Spiffeh]

Like does someone on my wagon want to explain why they're scum reading me?

Dunn has been the only one that has really tried to and his explanation didn't make much sense

[Spiffeh]

I don't even know what lamist means

[Spiffeh]

See literally any game of mine ever and you will see that I claim to be town all the time as either alignment so that isn't a valid reason to write me off as scum

And, ok, since you think Dunn is town, what about my push on Dunn makes you think it comes from scum rather than town?

[Spiffeh]

Yea I looked it up

[Spiffeh]

Wisdom wanting me lynched this soon without really trying to engage with me AT ALL is sketchy as fuck by the way

[Spiffeh]

I feel no type of way about it?

Idk she's claiming that he's acting towards his scum meta which I don't really feel like verifying for myself rn

[Spiffeh]

I really don't know why I wasted over 4 hours of my time catching up/engaging with this game

[Spiffeh]

VOTE: Wisdom

[Spiffeh]

Can someone explain to me why Wisdom is being overlooked despite doing jack shit? All he's done is vote park me without trying to engage with me which doesn't seem all that town to me?

Also thank you all for unvoting me, no matter what happens today that will always be our true victory

[Spiffeh]

hey guys

maybe Moment is scum

[Spiffeh]

I don't really feel like thinking about that rn but you never know!!!!!

[Spiffeh]

I don't think I've claimed to have a hard scum read on anyone yet this game so joke's on you

[Spiffeh]

Moment not really

It's been a fleeting thought of mine a few times throughout the game when reading your posts

And I don't have a specific reason for it

[Spiffeh]

ok please stand by

[Spiffeh]

Spiffeh, you haven't mentioned Nosferatu at all ever since your one naked vote on him. What are your thoughts now? Any reason in specific for the silence? And, would you join his wagon?

Don't really feel any type of way about him, everything he's presented thus far is pretty unreadable

I am perfectly fine with a wagon on him

But I would be fine with wagons on like 75% of the players in the game rn so that doesn't mean much

[Spiffeh]

VOTE: Mylo

[Spiffeh]

I think Muffy is town

[Spiffeh]

Mylo looks like scum who isn't entirely comfortable with it and is doing these analyses of me and Dunn because it would look good to do it/he needs something to do rather than actually trying to ascertain our alignments

[Spiffeh]

I'm so tempted to vote spiffeh in spite of a game from a few years back where he mislynched me but that would mean voting with wisdom and dunnstral

I don't even remember this

[Spiffeh]

Maria why do you think Mylo is town?

[Spiffeh]

I could see Brian being scum here too

[Spiffeh]

It is my birthday present to you

[Spiffeh]

I think Nosferatu is town

[Spiffeh]

idk I really feel like Brian is putting more effort into this game than he would if he were town

that sounds kinda unfair but it's how I feel

[Spiffeh]

I don't scumread you for trying to hold up the deadline I scumread you because of the lack of you doing anything for it and the long ass post you made about it. It's so anti you the only time I ever saw you do that is when you openly went out of your way to do so in a game we were in. So I'm like "Why would Dunn go out of his way like this" the only answer I could come to is your scum trying to get brownie points because you haven't said anything about wanting to mix up game styles. The second part of your argument isn't valid because you're acting like "scummy" and "towny" have a definition they don't. Scum can try to do X for Y reason as can town it depends on the context of the game and given you're trying to use said argument in your favor doesn't help

Maria I agreed with your initial read on Dunn's long post but how do you feel about his more recent content? Because I feel like his later posts seem more natural and he actually presents stances that I feel have been genuine

[Spiffeh]

Purrcocet you call so many people scum it's hard to know where your head is at

[Spiffeh]

no problem I'm here to help

[Spiffeh]

Spiffeh what's your read on sakura

I go back and forth on her but if I had to guess I would say town

[Spiffeh]

I think Nos had a ridiculously town string of posts interacting with someone (idr who) about Wisdom

So he should not be lynched

[Spiffeh]

guys 48 hours is too long I missed you all

[Spiffeh]

Sakura who were the scum you think tried to shift the lynch?

[Spiffeh]

Purrcocet how do I look?

[Spiffeh]

I thought Brian was scum yesterday but I don't remember why maybe he bussed?

[Spiffeh]

Purrcocet how do I look?

That’s a strange question?

That was mostly a jokey question because she tunneled me for a bunch of yesterday

[Spiffeh]

I don't get it either

[Spiffeh]

it's definitely not a scum slip

[Spiffeh]

How do people feel about Maria's play around Mylo now that the latter has flipped scum?

Because I think it's slightly sketch on the surface but am town reading the rest of her content so I would like others' thoughts

[Spiffeh]

Also I am very lost on the whole point of this main character/not main character mechanic is supposed to really mean for the game as a whole am I just stupid

[Spiffeh]

Ugh Wisdom when did you become so boring?

[Spiffeh]

How do people feel about Maria's play around Mylo now that the latter has flipped scum?

Because I think it's slightly sketch on the surface but am town reading the rest of her content so I would like others' thoughts

I think she's town

What changed your mind from yesterday?

[Spiffeh]

just to a reminder to not even consider me as a possibility as scum in the future because I'm definitely town and it would be a waste of time

carry on

[Spiffeh]

Wow we’re in a really good spot

[Spiffeh]

Katsuki scum reading me and doing nothing about it is scummy js

[Spiffeh]

Good morning everyone!

[Spiffeh]

why isn't anyone paying attention to me my CTRL-F is only hitting Muffin's signature now

[Spiffeh]

Ankamius might actually be scum after all

[Spiffeh]

And yeah TBG's fake posting restriction isn't cute anymore

[Spiffeh]

I'm not speaking another language, just think wisdom is scum here based on meta. Considering I've played about 10 games with him at this point.

Can you point to a previous game that makes you think Wisdom is scum here and explain why?

[Spiffeh]

Ankamius might actually be scum after all

Why?

Haven't played with Ank in a really long time, but I can't imagine her town game has retrogressed this much in terms of giving a shit. I think it's more likely that she's trying to subvert her scum meta by pretending to not care and hope to get overlooked. Again though, I have not looked into recent meta to put these suspicions to the test.

And most instances in this thread her "I don't care attitude" seems to be present more to SEEM like she doesn't care rather than actually not caring. It's too overdone.

[Spiffeh]

But when does town wisdom ever give up his lynch that easily toward end of day for 0 reason.

Tbh this is the most compelling reason for scum reading Wisdom I've seen thus far

[Spiffeh]

Weren’t you on Nos when the wagons were equal and then switch over to Mylo when it seemed inevitable?

Yeah you ended up on scum but I remember you having a ton of conviction in your reads and that behavior doesn’t really reflect that

[Spiffeh]

I just remember seeing people quote the vote count I will check for myself

chill broski

[Spiffeh]

What are your thoughts on Kokichi, Spiffeh? Kokichi’s “I need you to be in this game” comment, definitely sounds like pocketing because there is no logical basis for it. His explanation rests on his reading me as obvtown, nothing else.

Kokichi isn't someone I've really payed much attention to this game.

From the posts that I do recall off the top of my head, namely today's Wisdom push, I feel like he's pretty genuine

[Spiffeh]

why does no one want to lynch spiffeh lmao

because I've clarified multiple times that I am town and any votes on me only help scum

[Spiffeh]

oh noes how dare i consider spiffeh as a possibility for scum

thank you for catching yourself

[Spiffeh]

I'm kinda confused tbh, muffin's D1 reminded me a lot of scum!muffin, but this muffin's push on Nancy seems like town!muffin.

I would argue the exact opposite on both accounts

[Spiffeh]

omg if Matt ends up flipping scum Muffycakes needs to be turbolynched the next day

[Spiffeh]

Actually Muffin being turbolynched doesn't necessitate a Matt flip at all

I really really really don't think town!Muffin would be scum reading Nancy here

[Spiffeh]

Ill prolly lynch muffin on matt red flip

omg Wisdom look how in sync we are <3

[Spiffeh]

shhhh just let it happen

[Spiffeh]

Ok I'm all caught up

projectmatt dying is fine I guess. It feels icky that he has like handpicked quotes illustrating why the reasons people are scum reading him are wrong. I feel like town doesn't bother doing that? This combined with not contributing anything other than his defense of himself today makes him likely to be scum.

Muffin's Nancy push is just really bad, especially coming off trolling the entire game? I feel like there are a bunch of things in Nancy's ISO that would be really difficult for her to fake as scum, most notably Wisdom's "scum slip", and Muffin should be able to recognize that.

VOTE: Muffin just because

[Spiffeh]

ive been neglecting you this game, isaac

sorry

are we town?

his name is Brian

[Spiffeh]

my evil conscience is like "STOP OVERTHINKING SHIT, IT'S NANCY TBG" but my good conscience doesn't fully trust my evil conscience and is like "but nancy could just be bad. maybe maria tbg?" and both consciences are too busy doing other things to really give a shit about who's right tbh

Can you elaborate on why you think TBG is scum?

[Spiffeh]

ah, yes, the people not interacting with the guy who does nothing but post pictures with an obviously fake post restriction are the problem. right

[Spiffeh]

Hey TBG now that you're posting words can you provide us with some of your strong reads in either direction beyond Katsuki?

[Spiffeh]

Cupcake tbf you are a lil scummy

[Spiffeh]

Hey Muffin have you actually been scum reading Cupcake this game like you’ve been implying and if so why aren’t you really doing anything about it?

[Spiffeh]

Not visibly

[Spiffeh]

Why is it that every new post I read in the thread any strong reads I had previously become less and less certain

I wish it were the opposite

[Spiffeh]

Idk who is scum I think I still want to lynch matt though?

Muffin I keep going back and forth on it’s irritating

[Spiffeh]

VOTE: projectmatt

[Spiffeh]

No I don't

If you think TBG is scum try to convince me

[Spiffeh]

wait honestly i should vote him again this goes with my original plan

VOTE: Tbg

Green tho

Why are you leaving a wagon on someone you have been scum reading for someone you think is flipping green?

[Spiffeh]

@cupcake

Here is why I am scum reading projectmatt:

projectmatt dying is fine I guess. It feels icky that he has like handpicked quotes illustrating why the reasons people are scum reading him are wrong. I feel like town doesn't bother doing that? This combined with not contributing anything other than his defense of himself today makes him likely to be scum.

He's had a few more posts where he's explained his Kokichi scum read and other reads and it's fine I guess but the stuff that came before it is still problematic enough for me. He says he's gonna go in more depth for his other scum reads when he comes back so I'll just wait for that.

I'm not town reading TBG, I have no read on him. Even after reading the posts with actual words. Please explain why you are scum reading him based off of that.

[Spiffeh]

i told u why

I don't remember, can you remind me?

[Spiffeh]

hey projectmatt you mentioned scum reading Sakura early on and even today justified that read in defense of Purr's accusations, but I don't see her in your list of scum reads rn

What happened?

[Spiffeh]

Purr I still don't know what you're talking about but there's almost never a good reason to ever be voting a town read over a scum read and please don't act like there's no reason to be confused lmao

idk what your deal is

[Spiffeh]

we must take away the power wolfs ability to drive lynches by providing at least (1) really dumb town flip then follow by destroying the rest of the scum team following this flip

Alternatively you can just lynch the "power wolf" or some of your other scum reads so we don't even have to lynch the "dumb town"?

[Spiffeh]

But it's not like Muffin even has no support I think he's a very viable lynch candidate at the moment so your time is a lot better spent actually pushing him and explaining why he's scum

and like if TBG is a mislynch idk why you think a Muffin lynch is sure to follow?

this is a p. bad way to play mafia I'm sorry to inform you

[Spiffeh]

guys I'm at work and rly bored help

[Spiffeh]

maaaybe spiff?

no

[Spiffeh]

Also I've played in a fair amount of FakeGod games that were 17 players and I think only one has had 3 scum? We should just assume 4 scum here to be safe.

[Spiffeh]

UNVOTE:
Don’t want Day to end yet

[Spiffeh]

Is there a reason people so many people are taking pride in being unhelpful?

Because it's not really funny anymore

[Spiffeh]

The fact that everyone just seems to go along with these memes is making me think im the one in the wrong for even daring to go "No fun allowed" so...

no don't worry it's annoying me too

[Spiffeh]

What changed your mind?

[Spiffeh]

Muffin she's right though

[Spiffeh]

I don't want to read this rn

[Spiffeh]

Or the fact that you were trying to lynch him yesterday, claimed you were going to 'cop him', and now suddenly you don't want to lynch him anymore.

Mindblowing.

I know.

lol have you ever played with Katsuki before?

[Spiffeh]

Brian, talk with me a bit. Let's say (for now) that matt is town, that Dunnstral is right about Maria, and that people can read between the lines when it comes to Katsuki and MuffinMan. Who's scum? Ankamius? Kokichi? Spiffeh?

HI I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT TO EVERYONE

THAT KATSUKI CLAIMS COP AND FAKES INVESTIGATIONS ALL THE TIME

I DO NOT BUY FOR A SECOND THAT HE IS A COP THAT CLEANED MUFFIN AND NEITHER SHOULD YOU

/caps

[Spiffeh]

Mylo was not lynched for lurking no matter how many times people say it

[Spiffeh]

VOTE: Muffin

Kats does not have an inno on Muffin. He fakes this stuff in literally every game. This is false regardless of either of their alignments, so if you're not voting Muffin because of Katsuki's claimed result than please reevaluate.

Muffin's Nancy push was awful and I struggle to see how he wouldn't be able to recognize how obviously town she was if he were town. I don't believe for a second that push was genuine.

Matt's recent play seems like genuine frustration: I can see how he would believe that his not being "popular" or w/e could be leading to his lynch. I'm not hard town reading him or anything but that's enough to not want to lynch him for now.

Ank's play before her replace out and subsequent replace out are things I doubt she would do as scum, I'm actually hard town reading her now.

Sorry I'm at work I should be able to elaborate more later today

[Spiffeh]

If this cop inno actually happens to be real then maybe this will teach you to not fake claim in future games???

But I highly doubt it's real, sorry. I'm not going to bother finding evidence of you doing this in previous games: the fact that other people are calling you out on fake results should be evidence enough.

Muffin is my only real scum read based on play anyway

[Spiffeh]

Well if you're actually telling the truth here I'm sorry

Here are my doubts:

Your track record with fake claiming (no you may not have SPECIFICALLY claimed a cop inno or SPECIFICALLY defended Muffin before but you fake claim YES PRETTY MUCH EVERY GAME)
I really don't think Muffin is town
Muffin is the ONLY ONE I have a semi-confident read on

This isn't me being incompetent, it's me making the call that you're lying based on behavior from previous games and trying to lynch my only real scum read anyway

If Muffin does flip town I'll reevaluate tomorrow. Brian, assuming his claim is even true, is claiming he'll protect you and you'll get another shot tomorrow

[Spiffeh]

Like I'll be immensely disappointed with Muffin's play this game if he flips town tbh

[Spiffeh]

Either way if muffins gets lynched I'm gonna have fun playing for a different side because it'll be clear to me that this town does not wish to win.

Uh I mean if you are town and telling the truth here I'm pretty sure that's breaking site rules so I recommend not doing that

[Spiffeh]

NO HE PLANS ON CONTINUING TO BE SHIT AT THE GAME LIKE LAST TIME ROFL

LOL

"HE WAS PLAYING LIKE SCUM, NOT MY FAULT, ANYWAY, BACK TO LYNCHING MATT BECAUSE I CANT BE WRONG THAT TOO"

If Muffin is town saying garbage like this I have pretty much lost all respect for him as a town player.

There's perfectly valid reason to doubt Katsuki's claim based on there likely being a Gunsmith as a town info role and Katsuki faking results all the time

If he were town here he should be trying to find scum or explaining to Wisdom/others on his wagon why he's town, not taking potshots on the sidelines as Katsuki fights to save him

[Spiffeh]

I have no idea. I only remember lynching scum in spite of you.

Hi I think you're probably town and you behaving like this only gives Katsuki and Muffin's garbage/likely scum-motivated play a leg to stand on se please stop

[Spiffeh]

Why does mafia neighborize their nightkill?

Didn’t Cupcake say he was neighborized D1? That means the action occurred in different phases so I don’t think it would be that weird.

I also don’t buy that Katsuki was shot because no one would do that

[Spiffeh]

The neighborizer and doc claim could be real and yours not and Muffin can still be scum so

[Spiffeh]

I don’t know what game you’re talking about nor do I care what you think

[Spiffeh]

Like you’re not going be able to change my mind with insults or threats to throw the game so stop wasting your time.

If Muffin flips town I’ll reevaluate as I’ll have no scum reads left anyway. But I’m lynching him today because I highly doubt he’s flipping town for reasons I have provided.

[Spiffeh]

Hey Brian I get why you’d have a townread on Katsuki because you protected him I guess but unfortunately Katsuki being town does not equal Katsuki telling the truth about his claim or results so can you walk me through why you believe him unconditionally?

[Spiffeh]

Cupcake just know I still love you despite your hurtful words

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I’m just gonna sit on Muffin and check back near deadline if I need to condense on someone

I think lynching anyone other than him is a mistake and I’m sad what I believe to be a fake cop result is dissuading people from wanting him to die

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Wisdom convince people to vote correctly please

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Can people actually read the game

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The cop innocent is very likely fake, go read my recent posts for why I strongly believe Muffin is scum

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Sakura you will regret that don’t give in to the dark side

Also can you at least explain why you’re making the switch?

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That is an extremely disappointing/borderline scummy-even-though-I-think-you’re-town answer

Why vote TBG?

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Ankamius was 100% not scum so prof fridays is by far the worst vote rn

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Again I will reiterate that Ankamius did not replace our in that manner as scum. It looks like she replaced our because people were getting annoyed with the whole “I’m scum” schtick and I feel like if she were actually scum employing it as a strategy she wouldn’t care enough about how people felt about it enough to replace out

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Also, unless you're scum, then stop saying what you think scum would or wouldn't do. They're not you, so stop making that assumption.

I mean I scum hunt by assessing what I feel scum would do in certain situations and try to find who fits the bill (among other things) so I probably won't stop lol

But I appreciate your response overall

I'm probably gonna be extremely uncomfortable for the entire game while Muffin is alive unless Katsuki actually flips town cop at some point or unless we get scum flips later on that I don't expect

Literally nothing in Muffin's play looks town to me. I don't really buy that Muffin was content on letting himself get lynched because of the "stupidity" in the game because we had a scum lynch Day 1 and he has been engaging in trolly behavior since the very beginning of the game: so I really doubt that his unhelpful-ness is reactionary as Katsuki is suggesting

So if Muffin ends up being scum I look forward to giving most of you a big fat "I told you so"

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TBG doesn't seem all that scummy to me either but he has a better chance of flipping scum than Ank's slot

VOTE: TehBrawlGuy

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Not sure if I'll be back before deadline but someone make sure some lynch goes through thx

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Sorry if you're town TBG I hope you're not

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lol ok

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it's cool you're wrong though

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hey Katsuki

What is your result?

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If he's actually a cop it's public knowledge so he should be revealing his result every Day from now on

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Also Kokichi claim now

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I'm on my last episode of Shameless until the new season comes out idk what I'm gonna watch after

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Dunn if you don't think he's a cop why did you get off of Muffin yesterday?

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Hey Muffin real talk and can you not give like a jokey answer because it will just make me sad/mad

If you and cupcake actually have like a 28 page neighborhood full of content as you guys are claiming why haven't you been trying like at all in the thread? It would probably go a long way in terms of me believing you're town if you actually are

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ps: im not a neighbouriser lol, that's the only thing cupcake has directly lied about afaik

HEY DUNNSTRAL

HEY DUNNSTRAL

WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY NOW?????

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Dunn if you're going to just make posts trying to explain reasons as to why you think I'm scum just don't bother because it's a waste of time

The only mistake I really made yesterday with the Muffin push was that I thought Katsuki claimed to have been neighborized during Day 1 which I misread as Night 1 somehow

I still don't really buy that Katsuki was the nightkill on Night 1; there can be any number of things in the set up that could cause the no kill other than Brian's doc, it's just impossible to speculate because the set up is obviously not public.

And Muffin is still the only one I have any degree of scum read on so

PEdit: started this before Muffin revealed he's not a neighborizer and decided to just finish and post anyway

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Moment do you actually have a guilty or not

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ps: im not a neighbouriser lol, that's the only thing cupcake has directly lied about afaik

To clarify, this means that the only thing that should be holding anyone back from scum reading Muffin is that Katsuki supposedly has an innocent on him

And Katsuki is like definitely not a cop so

Muffin is just scum

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Muffin do you actually believe Katsuki is a cop and has an innocent on you?

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ps: im not a neighbouriser lol, that's the only thing cupcake has directly lied about afaik

cupcake claimed in the neighbourhood

not sure how much of his claim i actually believe but im prety much 100% he's not explicitly lying

he either has some result on me, has some way to verify me or is scum (but i doubt this)

???

Also if you want me to even consider MariaR you have to like actually give me reasons

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Kokichi you clearly haven't read the game and there's literally a guilty on you so you're probably scum

The fact that you're trying to insult my play is laughable

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Also if you want me to even consider MariaR you have to like actually give me reasons

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And Muffin I still don't really get exactly what's going on with the neighborhood thing?

So you just appeared in a neighborhood with Cupcake on Day 2 and you don't know why?

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So Katsuki's a neighborizer?

And if that's the case he's VERY LIKELY not also a cop?

Wow it's almost as if Katsuki was lying about literally everything!

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Well explain how I'm wrong or I'm just going to assume that my current interpretation is correct

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^@Muffin

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Nosferatu it is ridiculously clear if you read my posts that I don't believe Katsuki is a cop so you can drop the condescension please

And I'm not suggesting Katsuki is scum, I'm suggesting Muffin is

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well luckily we have a guilty on someone else so we won't have to deal with it until tomorrow!

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We might as well massclaim right?

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Did the prequel to this game have a similarly gimmicky set up?

At this point I find it pretty unbelievable that Kokichi wouldn’t put a guilty as town without much set up information, and instead just tunnel his guilty all day?

There’s having a guilty and claiming it, or there’s identifying that it’s an odd set up and playing it normally. Choosing not to put but also tunneling the slot is an odd choice.

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Like it seems like he’s scum who got a guilty result but knows it’s a mislymvh so he doesn’t want to claim it knowing he’ll look bad upon Wisdom’s town flip?

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Hmmm maybe

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I think Nosferatu is obvtown by play but yes he should claim

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If I had to lynch a gunsmith it would be Kokichi

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Because I’m hard townreading him

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He just seems too nonchalant and doesn’t care that much but when he does try it still seems town idk

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Yeah it’s not really cute anymore

Muffin and Katsuki don’t have any influence at all I don’t know why you’re acting like they do