Mini 2039: uPicketyPicketyPick Mafia Endgame

[Varsoon]

even if rc is scum he wouldn't know if ur IC claim is legitimate or not tbh

He'd be worried about it enough to make this play around it where
1. Lynch me Day 1 unless I agree to wait to 3 and then he gets to wait to 3.
2. He knows it's not assured I confirm by 3, so if the gamble pays off that I'm not, he gets away with a lynch on me on D3.
3. If I do confirm my Day 3, he then can argue that I was just 'playing really scummy and not how an IC would play' to slink away from catching a lynch for pushing a lynch on an IC

So yeah it's basically scum PoV RC every time.

[Varsoon]

Town RC sees that claim, goes "Oh cool if it's not confirmed or dead by LYLO I can lynch it with fire" and then proceeds to scumhunt elsewhere
Easy.

[Varsoon]

lets talk about waffles.
should i get some?

Only if syrup is involved.

[Varsoon]

Honestly, dude's TMI'ing because he's taking my claim at face-value as either
1. A complete lie
2. A complete truth

but then he's trying to prop this 'Day 3' thing like it's absolute grounds for one of us being lynched by then.
It's a really wild and curious way to handle the claim and really only makes sense from a scum PoV to me.

[Varsoon]

Oh, cool, so, RC, do you think that people can make judgments about what town and scum play WOULD BE for that player or do you think it holds no weight?
Or are you saying that only you get to make those judgments despite having not played a game with me in several years?
Just trying to figure that out.
'cus where I'm coming from is that I don't understand a town PoV coming from you, in this game, where you don't just come to that conclusion.

[Varsoon]

I'll ask you again to tone down the borderline attacks on me as a person.

You can call my play awful, that's fine.

[Varsoon]

You're scum who doesn't know for sure but assumes that, as town, I must be telling the truth, which is why you've come to the convenience of the Day 3 shenanigans.
It's not a logically town conclusion to come to, as I've illustrated, based on your own logic.

I also don't appreciate that you're trying to propose that my play is so bad that you'd rather be out of the game, as that's leveraging out of game information to unfairly bias other players against me. If you really wanted to be out of this game, you'd replace out.

[Varsoon]

The only thing that gives me any hesitance right now is that I know you're more willing to call someone else awful than assume that any fault with your play might be on you.
So I think the only compromise that we could possibly make here is NK15.

[Varsoon]

When I confirm as town, please replace out of the game if you're still in it.

[Varsoon]

Yeah and I'm the one forcing the 1v1 here,

[Varsoon]

What compromise are you referring to?
The one where you get to live to D3 and then either policy lynch me if I'm wrong or wiggle out of taking a lynch if I'm right?

[Varsoon]

It's not really starting a fight to vote for my top scumread, man.
Why do you do this?

[Varsoon]

That's exactly what you're doing here.
You're trying to propose every reason and then some for why you couldn't be scum once I flip, too.

[Varsoon]

I caught you page 6 and you've been wiggling ever since.

Why do you keep making this an ego thing?
Where, in the entire game, have I ever indicated that lynching you makes me better than you?

[Varsoon]

Is that why YOU'RE so defensive and willing to literally pressure me to the point of catching a ban?
Because YOU think that getting lynched by ME somehow makes YOU worse?

[Varsoon]

It's so obvious now
All that stuff about being voted the best player
About everyone recognizing you as the best player
All that dissing on me as awful
Hahahah

[Varsoon]

UNVOTE:

Dude yeah whatever

[Varsoon]

Hahahahhahahahahaha

[Varsoon]

Nah man I'm still intent to hammer you
It's just really obvious to me that you're incapable of doing anything but loudly walling in response while I'm voting you

That's all.

[Varsoon]

Dunno.
FB, can you weigh in on some things?

[Varsoon]

I mean other things.

If you could hammer Gamma now, would you?
Also, at what point in the game, exactly, did you know you had a triple vote?

[Varsoon]

Also, could you vote for someone that RC is not voting for so that we can confirm that your vote can only follow theirs?

[Varsoon]

...I was kind of hoping for a quicker response.

[Varsoon]

Oh, sorry, wasn't aware your vote was still on chibi.

And yeah

@MOD: Can we get a votecount?

What do you make of Mutant's WALL?
Obviously, I feel like he's coming to wrong conclusions, but I dunno whyfor.

[Varsoon]

<3
Could we get a deadline extension, then?
'cus info regarding FB's vote influences a lot for me right now and if I'm getting that info with 24 hours on the clock instead of like 96, that's a huge difference.

[Varsoon]

How much is the vote worth?

[Varsoon]

Also, confirmation that Fire is voting Chibi seals it for me.
There's definitely 1 scum between FB and RC.
Either Fire is lying about how the voting mechanics work or
RC has been intentionally misleading about it and allowed for Fire's misconceptions to go without correcting him in either the public chat or the PT.

[Varsoon]

Was that the case?
My brain is dumb.

[Varsoon]

If they said that it was fine not being the case then forget what I just said;
I thought the whole reason FB was voting Chibi was to test it.

[Varsoon]

VOTE: Radiant Cowbells

I'm not gonna sit here and try to put any spin on anything.

This dude's scum.
It should be very obvious from our interactions and his play.
I'm not posting again D1 unless someone specifically asks me a question or the day ends.
I'm standing by this creed this time, because it's really obvious RC's strat is to drag me into more 1v1s so he can throw up as much noise as possible as a smokescreen that no one wants to read through.

[Varsoon]

Unforgivable.

[Varsoon]

Gg Varsoon great tunnel on me 10/10 would do again

You managed to make one of the most stacked towns in site history lose

Yeah was 100% my fault, sorry.

[Varsoon]

Varsoon played against wincon and attempted to grudge lynch me*. Without discussing ongoings he has a history of attempting to grudge Lynch players and personally attacking them. It's whatever. Town tried to hard to give him a chance to not game throw but he was just dead set on grudge lynching me go the point of fakeclaiming IC to get me killed. And he still couldn't Lynch me with an IC fakeclaim. Like, when you can't get me lynched after fakeclaiming IC it's even more pathetic because not only are you playing against your wincondition but you're not even a good game thrower

"Without discussing games that had not happened before this game, he has a history of doing this thing he has never done"

10/10 postgame accusations.

[Varsoon]

Yeah man, please don't show up in postgame to call people pathetic. It's not really good for site culture.
Sorry for ruining the game, if that's how anyone feels.
I'd love to play your next game, JJH.

[Varsoon]

Props for modding through all that noise, too.

[Varsoon]

I like smaller games.

[Varsoon]

It's hard to keep up with more than 14 other players.

[Varsoon]

Ironic as it is, I really wish Kokichi would stop claiming IC.
Like, yeah dude
I get it.

[Varsoon]

You have exactly no legs to stand on Varsoon lol.
be the change you want to see

Yeah man workin on it.

[Varsoon]

I actually really regret coming in the way I did and I apologise for it I intended to say something in good faith but I guess I just ended up ranting instead. I don't want this to be a thing.

Varsoon would you be interested in reviewing an Undertale themed game?

It's all good, man, I screwed the pooch and don't want to ever walk that line ever again.

I'd be down to review an Undertale game since I've run or reviewed about three of those so far, so I guess my fingers are already pretty deep in that pie.

[Varsoon]

If the winning strategy is to not post, I'm curious why people even play games.
We really need to promote a site-meta of engagement and content production if we want to avoid situations where players just don't play.

[Varsoon]

Eh, you could just take the critique at face-value regardless of what Firebringer's stance or ethos is.
No point in getting upset with FB or defensive of your play--neither of those things is going to change FB's ethos.

[Varsoon]

Aw, was looking forward to more chibi.
You snowed me so hard I was paranoid.
When you mod something, lemme know.

[Varsoon]

@Chibi: Means you completely had me fooled. 'Snowed' is slang for deceiving someone.