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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 8:15 am
by Nev and Max
In post 6544, Elsa Jay wrote:Yeah, a failed scum gambit. Checking a dude who CLAIMS Miller by crumbing traitor? Who the hell checks that?
A town role cop seems like a good choice for that action. You just seem mad that you're caught.

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 8:19 am
by Nev and Max
In post 6551, Elsa Jay wrote:
In post 6547, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 6544, Elsa Jay wrote:Yeah, a failed scum gambit. Checking a dude who CLAIMS Miller by crumbing traitor? Who the hell checks that?
Because that's totally something you would do as actual miller.
Day 1 i claimed to be informed about a vigilante then admitted to lying about that.

In Overkill 1 I claimed Neutral doctor of all roles and ended up getting shot at by the mafia and Serial Killer on 3 separate occasions.

In Excalibur I claimed to have a fucking sword (which would have made me immune) and the mafia KILLED ME ANYWAY.

You clearly underestimate what I can do as any alignment.
It seems like he took what you can do into consideration and used his ability to figure out if you were a friend or a foe.

If he is telling the truth we lynch scum in you. If he is lying he dies tomorrow.

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 8:20 am
by Elsa Jay
So by that logic your calling out Dave's claim and ignoring the fact he said he gifted something to Profii, who denies the fact?

Your going at this backwards, bro. His flip takes precedence over mine because he's getting called a liar on multiple fronts.

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 8:22 am
by PenguinPower
In post 6601, Nev and Max wrote:If he is lying he dies tomorrow.
He's already lied twice.

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 8:23 am
by Nev and Max
In post 6581, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: Nero Cain
you and I need to talk.
This is more pressing to you than the Elsa/S_S debate?

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 8:24 am
by Elsa Jay
Gamma: reasonably unvotes me after I explain the situation

Xtoxm: votes me for reasons unrelated to SS and wants answers.

Nev/Max: "But Elsa has too die first"

One of these 3 is not like the other.

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 8:26 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 6604, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 6581, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: Nero Cain
you and I need to talk.
This is more pressing to you than the Elsa/S_S debate?
Already answered, do you have a hydra PT? Use it more if you do.

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 8:27 am
by Nev and Max
In post 6603, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 6601, Nev and Max wrote:If he is lying he dies tomorrow.
He's already lied twice.
If we are going off who's lied the most I think Elsa still wins hands down.

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 8:29 am
by DrewVa
So it seems the tlk flip suggests there is a scum sticky fruit vendor. This to me suggests that ss is group scum, baited our vig shot to elsa, knew his team was fruiting elsa, and elsa is now witholding receipt of the sticky fruit. This matches my reads and explains most of what has gone on. It points away from elsa being the vendor and ss could be the scum vendor so I still like starting there.

There are other possibilities but this seems the simplest right now. -d

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 8:29 am
by Nev and Max
In post 6605, Elsa Jay wrote:Gamma: reasonably unvotes me after I explain the situation

Xtoxm: votes me for reasons unrelated to SS and wants answers.

Nev/Max: "But Elsa has too die first"

One of these 3 is not like the other.
Sorry? I don't know what you want from me here. I don't believe you. I think you're scum. I want you to be lynched because I think your lying scum.

Maybe the other two don't feel as strongly as I do and are more willing to waver when presented with circumstantial evidence that feeds into the narrative you're creating.

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 8:30 am
by Elsa Jay
Minor lies. I'm a compulsive liar and also compulsive truth teller.

Lying doesn't equal scum though in some circumstances. Smart's does, however.

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 8:31 am
by PenguinPower
In post 6607, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 6603, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 6601, Nev and Max wrote:If he is lying he dies tomorrow.
He's already lied twice.
If we are going off who's lied the most I think Elsa still wins hands down.
This is gross.

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 8:31 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 6609, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 6605, Elsa Jay wrote:Gamma: reasonably unvotes me after I explain the situation

Xtoxm: votes me for reasons unrelated to SS and wants answers.

Nev/Max: "But Elsa has too die first"

One of these 3 is not like the other.
Sorry? I don't know what you want from me here. I don't believe you. I think you're scum. I want you to be lynched because I think your lying scum.

Maybe the other two don't feel as strongly as I do and are more willing to waver when presented with circumstantial evidence that feeds into the narrative you're creating.
I mean I do still think Elsa could be scum but it's not as slam-dunk as before.

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 8:32 am
by davesaz
In post 6591, Elsa Jay wrote:Hell, you made a Varient role yourself.
Citation needed.

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 8:32 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 6613, davesaz wrote:
In post 6591, Elsa Jay wrote:Hell, you made a Varient role yourself.
Citation needed.
Willbooster is something I made lol

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 8:33 am
by Nev and Max
In post 6606, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 6604, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 6581, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: Nero Cain
you and I need to talk.
This is more pressing to you than the Elsa/S_S debate?
Already answered, do you have a hydra PT? Use it more if you do.
I'm a page or two behind from being live... And what does my Hydra pt have to do with anything?

Do you have something against me personally? I feel like you've been taking shots at me throughout the game and I'm not sure why I feel this animosity coming from you.

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 8:34 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 6615, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 6606, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 6604, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 6581, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: Nero Cain
you and I need to talk.
This is more pressing to you than the Elsa/S_S debate?
Already answered, do you have a hydra PT? Use it more if you do.
I'm a page or two behind from being live... And what does my Hydra pt have to do with anything?

Do you have something against me personally? I feel like you've been taking shots at me throughout the game and I'm not sure why I feel this animosity coming from you.
Sorry, not trying to be mean, just got a little cheesed when your other head answered my question and you came in with that.

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 8:34 am
by davesaz
In post 6595, Elsa Jay wrote:Dave says I'm in fact a townie because he checked me and denies SS's results as well
One of my possible results is that you're a townie. There are other possibilities like you can't be night targeted, so I don't consider it to be confirmed.

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 8:35 am
by Nev and Max
In post 6610, Elsa Jay wrote:Minor lies. I'm a compulsive liar and also compulsive truth teller.

Lying doesn't equal scum though in some circumstances. Smart's does, however.
Except this is all predicated upon the idea that Boon would willingly insert himself into a game by not updating a vote when it's done in the same post as an unvote.

I don't buy that. Any vote should be counted and the fact that your voting issue just so happen to take place on the same wagon where you would have most likely died is suspect as fucking hell bro.

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 8:36 am
by Nev and Max
In post 6611, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 6607, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 6603, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 6601, Nev and Max wrote:If he is lying he dies tomorrow.
He's already lied twice.
If we are going off who's lied the most I think Elsa still wins hands down.
This is gross.
Pointing out that Elsa also has lied is gross? You're the one pointing out that S_S already lied. Is what's good for the gander not good for the goose?

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 8:37 am
by Something_Smart
I lied once. It was for a well-defined reason, with a goal in mind that would be obvious as soon as Elsa died.

It failed, I guess because Elsa saw through it. (He literally admitted that this was the reason!) My fault for crumbing too obviously, but it still confirmed Elsa as scum because he dodged for no reason other than to live an extra day.

I definitely sent the neighborizer shot to profii. Either something interfered with it (which I really hope isn't possible) or Boon just hasn't seen it yet.

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 8:38 am
by Nev and Max
In post 6616, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 6615, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 6606, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 6604, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 6581, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: Nero Cain
you and I need to talk.
This is more pressing to you than the Elsa/S_S debate?
Already answered, do you have a hydra PT? Use it more if you do.
I'm a page or two behind from being live... And what does my Hydra pt have to do with anything?

Do you have something against me personally? I feel like you've been taking shots at me throughout the game and I'm not sure why I feel this animosity coming from you.
Sorry, not trying to be mean, just got a little cheesed when your other head answered my question and you came in with that.
Um what

-M

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 8:39 am
by Elsa Jay
Sure, that's one major point against me. As well as me surviving the Vigilante. But your having rose tinted glasses on and ignoring Smart completely, so honestly you seem like scum chainsaw defending him.

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 8:39 am
by davesaz
In post 6608, DrewVa wrote:So it seems the tlk flip suggests there is a scum sticky fruit vendor. This to me suggests that ss is group scum, baited our vig shot to elsa, knew his team was fruiting elsa, and elsa is now witholding receipt of the sticky fruit. This matches my reads and explains most of what has gone on. It points away from elsa being the vendor and ss could be the scum vendor so I still like starting there.

There are other possibilities but this seems the simplest right now. -d
That would make S_S scum, Elsa 3p as I'm reading it.
Assuming Elsa isn't a killing 3p, S_S is priority so we don't have multiple fruit floating around.

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 8:40 am
by Elsa Jay
In post 6620, Something_Smart wrote: I definitely sent the neighborizer shot to profii. Either something interfered with it (which I really hope isn't possible) or Boon just hasn't seen it yet.
Oh look Nev, he's blaming Boon for something too.