Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 9:31 am
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Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 9:39 am
Never gonna let you down.
Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 9:42 am
In post 641, Vedith wrote:biased modding
@mod: 'Never gonna give you up' is not a Musical
Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 9:43 am
Mod Bias confirmed:
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Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 9:44 am
Then you arent singing it right.In post 977, Vorkuta wrote:In post 641, Vedith wrote:biased modding@mod: 'Never gonna give you up' is not a Musical
Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 9:45 am
I really like this from RCE; it mirrors my thoughts at the time which is nice and I think the voting and then immediate change of vote indicates a town thought process; as scum a push on Baezu is perfectly fine, he's showing a tendency here to think about and constantly reassess his reads which I think is town indicative.
Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 9:47 am
What kind of re assessment on his reads do you think he had within 2mins that early on?
Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 9:51 am
I don't understand what you mean by this? He changed his reads in a short period of time; I think this shows he was thinking about the game after his vote and about which of his reads were more likely to be scum. I think this mindset is town-indicative. Does this clarify what I mean?In post 981, Vedith wrote:What kind of re assessment on his reads do you think he had within 2mins that early on?
Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 9:51 am
@Fus- Let's more game related posts ok?
@Ausuka- Quick question about that (also because I have sliiiight doubts on RCE)
Where's the line between "immediate change of vote = town thought process" and scummy 'flipflopping/fencesitting/uncommitted'?
I'd argue that's a player specific characteristic of RCE (or a conscious choice made this game) and not actually alignment indicative for him.
I'll also use your answer as a reference for my future reads (both to hold you accountable, and to take your advice if I'm happy with said answer).
@Ausuka- Quick question about that (also because I have sliiiight doubts on RCE)
Where's the line between "immediate change of vote = town thought process" and scummy 'flipflopping/fencesitting/uncommitted'?
I'd argue that's a player specific characteristic of RCE (or a conscious choice made this game) and not actually alignment indicative for him.
I'll also use your answer as a reference for my future reads (both to hold you accountable, and to take your advice if I'm happy with said answer).
Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 9:55 am
Will you light my...candle?
Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 9:56 am
Also, scum doesn’t flip flop as much because they try to stay consistent. My ultra consistent scum game is a double edged sword. Generally everything lines up almost too perfectly.
Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 9:56 am
i think that flipflopping is a very different thing from fencesitting or being uncommitted. i also think that flipflopping requires going back and forth a lot of times on a lot of reads in a way that indicates that you're switching your read towards what is more beneficial for a scum agenda. i think that fencesitting is refusing to take stances on players. being uncommitted is not a term i've really seen having much use in mafia, so I'm not sure what it means exactly, but not being committed to one vote isn't a scummy trait to me. i don't think RCE's posts would fit any of those criteria.
pedit: sure!
pedit: sure!
Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:01 am
In post 983, Vorkuta wrote:@Fus- Let's more game related posts ok?
@Fus- Let's more game related posts ok?
Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:02 am
Nothing says "shag me, I'm horny", quite like a song about co-users prepping for a fix.
Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:02 am
Though, the idea of junkies and love does have some deeper symbolic meanings . . .
Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:03 am
Rent was the one about the chemistry teacher with lung cancer right
Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:04 am
Fu your vote would looks mighty attractive on Volxen.
Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:07 am
I had a friend who tried to get me to watch Rent one time (it was an actual movie version). I couldn’t really follow what was going on and couldn’t tell what was important about each character.
Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:07 am
Sell it, Slaxx. Impress me right now.
Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:10 am
In post 930, Slaxx wrote:(Aus, Vedith, Alch, RCE)
(Vork, FL)
(Fus, HitAlt, Baezu)
(S_S)
(Volxen)
VOTE: Volxen
I don’t like that all Volxen has done so far is pry a bit at me and call Ausuka town. I slept on it and I don’t like the wagon directing either. I also don’t like how’s he is subtly reframing things people are saying. Like, when I said I was concerned that his only content was Ausuka related he switched that to me discouraging him from sharing reads. There’s a piece of me that thinks maybe I could have been more explicit about it but I feel like what I said was fairly self-explanatory.
S_S is probably a pretty malleable read, I go back and forth.
Both these players I feel like I have to pull teeth to get content from and I’d be surprised if they were both town. I know people are less confident on Alch than I am but trust me there.
Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:12 am
Also I try not to do activity tells especially between hydras and single players but he’s much more engaged as town on his Michael Scott hydra, and when we hydraed together as scum on The Great Wall he kinda set back and let Auro and I run the show. I don’t know if that’s really factoring into my decision, there’s plenty of in game reasons, but that’s a little cherry on top I guess.
Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:13 am
@#987 Malicious Compliance. I approve.
@Ausuka and FL
I get the point about inconsistencies and vote hopping being things scum try and avoid, but I think it's a case-by-case (or player) dependent thing.
Case in point THIS GAME: Vedith sheeping anyone who makes a decent point every few posts.
That's why I don't entirely buy Ausuka's #95~#96 = RCE town point.
@Everyone who's played a game with Volxen
Will my vote there make him more likely to say stuff?
I'm fine with pressuring Volx. and returning to my Fus wagon once he says literally anything.
@Ausuka and FL
Vote: FL, Vote: Ausuka, Vote: FL, Vote: Ausuka, Vote: Fus, teeheee look at me being so town
I get the point about inconsistencies and vote hopping being things scum try and avoid, but I think it's a case-by-case (or player) dependent thing.
Case in point THIS GAME: Vedith sheeping anyone who makes a decent point every few posts.
That's why I don't entirely buy Ausuka's #95~#96 = RCE town point.
@Everyone who's played a game with Volxen
Will my vote there make him more likely to say stuff?
I'm fine with pressuring Volx. and returning to my Fus wagon once he says literally anything.
Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:16 am
The votes on Baezu I'm not a fan of are Alchemist and Vorkuta. Alchemist has the mysterious town thing going for him so I don't want to pursue that d1 even though honestly I'm not a fan of his ISO at all.
Vorkuta is mixed feelings because his entrance was a vote onto the main wagon and a tr on the four most active players. 120 was quite genuine though.
Thought - is it at all possible the mafia PT stuff was wrong? Like the thought process could have been that she wanted to exclude ongoing games, or that most of the time she was townread as scum? If I had all these reasons to sr Baezu and I gave it all up because of an incorrect reason I'd be really disappointed in myself tbh. I think I'll meta Baezu a little further.
Vorkuta is mixed feelings because his entrance was a vote onto the main wagon and a tr on the four most active players. 120 was quite genuine though.
Baezu can you explain your thought process here please.In post 146, Baezu wrote:I agree - that slot is looking scummier by the second...In post 141, RCEnigma wrote:All the gas we needed to get this wagon rolling.In post 139, Something_Smart wrote:He's been confscum since 133In post 137, Vorkuta wrote:Are you conf!town yet? Or will it take like 5 more posts until you reach that conclusion?
VOTE: flavorleaf
Thought - is it at all possible the mafia PT stuff was wrong? Like the thought process could have been that she wanted to exclude ongoing games, or that most of the time she was townread as scum? If I had all these reasons to sr Baezu and I gave it all up because of an incorrect reason I'd be really disappointed in myself tbh. I think I'll meta Baezu a little further.
Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:17 am
You’re vote is pointless is you express intent to move it upon such a low barrier
You might as well threaten to piss outside tonight
He’s not going to caste either way
You might as well threaten to piss outside tonight
He’s not going to caste either way
Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:17 am
I’m not sure.
I actually think Volxen has given a decent amount with his walls. It’s kind of a what he presented, how he presented, Kinda thing. Came off very projects to me, like he was trying to appease.
I actually think Volxen has given a decent amount with his walls. It’s kind of a what he presented, how he presented, Kinda thing. Came off very projects to me, like he was trying to appease.