Role Call I (Game Over)

[Bingle]

If people listened to me like ever this game would have gone better.

I listened to you a lot.

[popsofctown]

An apprentice speccing your thoughts violates the letter but not the spirit of the "don't discuss ongoing games" rule.

[Dunnstral]

If people listened to me like ever this game would have gone better.

...?

You made us not lynch LUV

[popsofctown]

I didn't realize we were in LyLo
I guess you're right.

[Gamma Emerald]

This is legal?

A personal thoughts PT for the game? 100% legal. I've provided them before a bunch of times for players.

An apprentice speccing your thoughts? As long as the mod is aware and allows it, I can't see why it wouldn't be.

Okay then
Also how the hell us this LyLo

[popsofctown]

yesterday was lylo

[Bingle]

In fairness, yesterday was only LYLO because you guys let me have the ability to pick all of the powers we wanted.

It should have been a way more fair game.

[popsofctown]

I

voted against.

[popsofctown]

This raises the question, is the optimal way to play the setup to nominate a TR king ? I think maybe so.

[Bingle]

God no. The optimal way to play is to lynch the d3 king on d2 100% of the time.

[popsofctown]

I feel like if that's true it's a bad setup

[popsofctown]

I feel like town played poorly enough to lose for sure but I don't know about getting swept.

Although maybe it's wrong to view a sweep as any different from another type of loss.

[Bingle]

We can discuss whether the sweep is deserved in the post, but yeah, there were roles that just couldn’t be trusted to anyone and roles where the correct use was just “never use this”. It’s frustrating, but that happens with a lot of role madness setups.

[popsofctown]

I was very much all, "yeah save it for the postgame" yesterday

But like


this is the postgame

unless Dunnstral is fakeclaiming scum

which is 9d chess

like go ahead and discuss it

[Bingle]

Ah, but right now I’m pretty sure I still win even if I fucked up royally. If I point out the work that went into getting us here and then cfj fucks us on D4, well...

Better safe than sorry.

[popsofctown]

cfj predesigned the entire setup. He would not create some kind of bizarre role list that keeps you on winning as reaction to your imminent win. that would be very, very, unethical modding and it's a little offensive that you would even suggest that. He is a great member of this community.

[popsofctown]

*keeps you from winning

[pisskop]

Lol

Yeah, it's pretty great.

I was all like, maybe bingle is a good track
and pops says

nah, thats the worst idea ever.

[pisskop]

On a very serious note: one of my biggest weaknesses in mafia is my willingness to try to work with some people.

when i dont take notes im far more susceptible to subtle influences, even when I know they are against my better judgements.

[popsofctown]

Bingle's not a good track because he should just have been lynched day4 either way -shrug-

[Gamma Emerald]

Honestly this game just had some fucked up balance in general

[momo]

Hey guys imma go back and read the game. I’ll try and post tonight.

[popsofctown]

You don't have to momo it's over.

[callforjudgement]

A victory condition has been achieved!

Town no longer have enough votes to prevent scum gaining control of every future proposal, nor any night action that can stop them in time, which will give scum an inevitable win.

Thoughts on the setup will come soon.

This game's threads:

Signup/replacement thread
Game thread
Mod thread (includes full role assignments, night actions, etc.)
Scum thread
Neighbour thread
Spectator/dead thread

I'll leave the scum and neighbour threads private for a while in case any redactions are needed. The other threads have been released.

[popsofctown]

There's like this weird edge case where scum lol-ignore the revisor and lose

But it wouldn't be a gratifying way to win really so calling it is o.k.