Open 779: Pick Your Power X/Y Game Over!

[skitter30]

We did not get our pick.

Also i dont think people should claim thinga like this just yet, it gives wolves info and helps narrow things down

[Farkset]

Sorry, i only skimmed posts, didn't notice 42 anywhere and i didn't connect the thoughts processes.

I wouldn't think it's AI though, and i have reasons to think that the top 4 slots are all town, so i'm fine voting down below so far

-Farkran

pedit: i don't believe scum needs this kind of info

[Datisi]

VOTE: aldus
have you finally rolled scum you scumfuck?

I also think its low-key unlikely for there to be more than 1 scum in the 1's and 2's combined

skitter scum with 2 other people in 1's and 2's confirmed

[skitter30]

Sorry, i only skimmed posts, didn't notice 42 anywhere and i didn't connect the thoughts processes.

I wouldn't think it's AI though, and i have reasons to think that the top 4 slots are all town, so i'm fine voting down below so far

-Farkran

pedit: i don't believe scum needs this kind of info

There's literally no way you can have this much info yet

[skitter30]

Meh

VOTE: farkset hydra

[DonCorleone]

Big +1 on I have no idea how you're calling the top 4 slots town, farkran.

@datisi, I strongly suspect that if skitter is scum that that statement was made as pure WIFOM. I personally disagree with her lowkey idea (I don't know why it's unlikely that scum would choose in both 1 and 2?) but agree that it's unlikely 2 scum would have picked the same number.

[Farkset]

Scumcase us please

-Farkran

@skitter

[DonCorleone]

Meh

VOTE: farkset hydra

?

I think that farkset hydra is more likely town than scum based on what they've posted so far. I just don't think they have any rational basis to think the top 4 slots are town, but then lots of players don't play rationally.

[Datisi]

@datisi, I strongly suspect that if skitter is scum that that statement was made as pure WIFOM. I personally disagree with her lowkey idea (I don't know why it's unlikely that scum would choose in both 1 and 2?) but agree that it's unlikely 2 scum would have picked the same number.

you'll notice i wasn't even voting skit. that claim had 0% seriousness in it. i know i missed page 1, but i want to get in on the memeing in early game.

fark, can you tell us why you think top 4 are Town?

[Farkset]

I can prove you that 4th is town. I asked elmo for that.
~ker

[Farkset]

fark, can you tell us why you think top 4 are Town?

No, but they are

-Farkran

[Elmo TeH AzN]

My Page Top & Day Start PM's Have Been Sent Out. Deadline Posted In VC

Edit: I clearly didn't see the 2nd page.

[Clemency]

i swear its been two pages and y'all are about to post your final solves

[Clemency]

nice to meet you everyone i'm "that bitch"

[Dunnstral]

hardclaim cop

Yeah, I’m as surprised to have got it as you all are, what can I say, luck of the Irish

Alright.

Cop OR 1-Shot Redirector

I know that this role is accounted for.

This role:

1-Shot Vigilante OR 1-Shot PGO (active)

needs to claim today. This is the role that scum like to go for, and the worst thing that can happen to that role - being redirected - can't happen to it.

I don't think fear of being roleblocked justifies not claiming that role here

[Dunnstral]

Why would you claim cop instantly?

[Clemency]

testosterone?

[Dunnstral]

I don't think fear of being roleblocked justifies not claiming that role here

To clarify, there is a cop claim, so vigilante has no reason to hide their role.

If nobody claims it, I'm going to assume that there's a scum vigilante or scum pgo.

[skitter30]

@datisi, I strongly suspect that if skitter is scum that that statement was made as pure WIFOM. I personally disagree with her lowkey idea (I don't know why it's unlikely that scum would choose in both 1 and 2?) but agree that it's unlikely 2 scum would have picked the same number.

because from experience, scum are worried about doubling up, and their goal is to try to pick singles as much as possible. i think that knowing that 1 and 2 both tend to be high-risk high-reward numbers, they wouldn't really gain much more by picking both of them than by picking one of them imo. i would be pretty surprised if more than one scum went for a low number like this

(in both iterations i was scum in, i don't think any of the 6 of us picked a number lower than 4)

[skitter30]

like 1/2 are perceived as being risky by scum. i don't think they double-down and pick *two* numbers in that group

[skitter30]

Scumcase us please

-Farkran

@skitter

- not sure why you're voting me over not picking 42 (admittedly could be nai and an rvs joke-post but you doubled down a bit later so i'd like to hear more about it)
- my best guess for your logic for why the three people above you are townie is something like 'i picked {what i perceive to be as the third-best option for town} and it's already taken so that person ahead of me is townie, and the fact that it was available at that point means that other players passed over it and picked the {second/first} best options so they're townie too'
it's gotta be draft related since iirc 2/3 of those people didn't post yet
and this logic is remarkably similar to what one of my partners (3rd highest in the draft; got jk) did to the 1st highest pick.

admittedly not much, but more than anything else i've got on p2 and figured it was worth probing and to see if i could use this to generate discussion (which it did)

[skitter30]

also i thought the cop-claim was a meme?

[Dunnstral]

also i thought the cop-claim was a meme?

Then why do you townread him?

[skitter30]

I looked at the last five (+venrob's) to try and predict what numbers were most likely to come up and to get a good position.Worked out well lol. I actually didn't check alignments, so I didn't realise you were scum in the previous games, meaning that your shift is less concerning and maybe actually a good thing but I'm not gonna give you that much credit for it.

not checking alignments ^
feels like scum would want to know the town/scum distribution and town wouldn't care the alignments of the people so long as they can optimize the guess overall

[Farkset]

Scumcase us please

-Farkran

@skitter

- not sure why you're voting me over not picking 42 (admittedly could be nai and an rvs joke-post but you doubled down a bit later so i'd like to hear more about it)
- my best guess for your logic for why the three people above you are townie is something like 'i picked {what i perceive to be as the third-best option for town} and it's already taken so that person ahead of me is townie, and the fact that it was available at that point means that other players passed over it and picked the {second/first} best options so they're townie too'
it's gotta be draft related since iirc 2/3 of those people didn't post yet
and this logic is remarkably similar to what one of my partners (3rd highest in the draft; got jk) did to the 1st highest pick.

admittedly not much, but more than anything else i've got on p2 and figured it was worth probing and to see if i could use this to generate discussion (which it did)

Yes, the 42 thing was a poke, not an actual scumread, but you are correct that i have the top 3 players as >rand town and that's the reason why i'm fine voting below us, which includes you among the 10 people involved - do you perceive that as a scummy double down on you?

Besides, am i getting your case correctly in that you are voting us for performing a similar play to one of your past partners? Who was that, and in which game?

-Farkran