Open 782: Triad Conspiracy (Finish!)

[Galron]

I no more hold very high confidence in Isis' hood being scum, that's all I was conveying there. Unless you want some additional WIFOM?

Was it something you saw out of Drew or Tweet or something from one of the other hood members?

[Auro]

It was that my reads in another game turned out to be completely opposite and hence I'm questioning myself here too, nothing related to the happenings within this game itself. I still do believe my hood's town.

[Isis]

I'm poor at reaction tests, so let's say yes?

Auro I have a bombshell for you
I didn't really vote in my neighborhood
Now you have exposed yourself as mafia and the townie in your hood is going to self vote
This was all my master plan

[Auro]

Of course, well, I said I'm poor at reaction tests

(Even if you do self-vote in your hood it wouldn't count)

[Isis]

I wasn't aware that Hectic or Jumble ruined that wonderful element of my original design and I am furious

[Adorable]

Meh! I'm surrounded by so many scummy players. It feels like Jumble put 6 scum and 3 town in this game.

[Isis]

It's that Auro posts a lot

[Auro]

Do keep in mind this is partly continuing punishment for your hood prematurely self-voting!

[Auro]

I only have 18% more posts than Isis

[Tommy Two Times]

We could settle this with a quick game of conspiracy if you guys want. I can send out role PMs through spoilers.

Spoiler: Isis

No conspiracy

Spoiler: superbowl

No conspiracy

Spoiler: Auro

No conspiracy

Spoiler: Doctor Drew

Third party jester. Get everyone to guess conspiracy.

Spoiler: Morning Tweet

No conspiracy

[Galron]

Meh! I'm surrounded by so many scummy players. It feels like Jumble put 6 scum and 3 town in this game.

[Isis]

I'm a townie brownie.

I even got "no conspiracy" in Tommy's subgame

[Auro]

Damnit I opened all the spoilers impulsively first and then read what you posted before that
Please re-roll

[Morning Tweet]

auro did u really pretend/truthfully just claim scum after Isis pretending to self vote in her hood which honestly I didnt think was a thing

whyy

[Auro]

I'm poor at reaction tests

, so let's say yes?

The bolded didn't indicate it's a joke?

[Auro]

For me to honestly believe the game was over means I express no doubt over Isis' not choosing to vote in the main thread, and no doubt over whether hood votes count, and then why would I qualify it with "I'm poor at reaction tests"?

[Auro]

Don't mind me, I'm just a little annoyed because I feel like I'm caught for the wrong reasons! >.>

(Galron, you asked for the WIFOM, happy? )

[Isis]

He is scum with Dr. Drew

[Auro]

To be serious: you guys should be evaluating us on what we did pre self-vote. Fmpov, it's pretty weird for Drew to "soften up" on my hood and also begin to come around on Gobbles at the same time. Drew as scum would've likely played nice and played along to my gambit proposals in hood; he would know (or MT would tell him) I'd get annoyed if he just put up that paranoia stance throughout.
I basically just treated that as an assumption that we're the first self voters, and there was zero reaction from either of them to try and reverse that. MT was a bit resigned, but both seemed to just focus on other things.

Same would go with myself, I declared my hood town, then took it as a given that we're stumping, townread hood 2 and scumread hood 3. Now, either I'd have to chart a trajectory off of this belief set (as I'd need Isis' hood AND Gob's hood who I previously townread to self vote over me) in a manner such that Isis' hood wouldn't pick my hood after stumping. Do you really think I'd be trying to go for the "let me come off as twtbaw" angle to Isis? Screw wifom, that's just poor strategy. Following any version of this strategy without losing involves town forcing Gob hood to stump first (which wasn't gonna happen if Drew was my teammate especially since he came around on their hood, plus obv two hoods calling each other scummy doesn't imply high chances of the other hood stumping) or someone to yolo self vote.

Sure, I make wifom plays as scum, but only when the payoff is worth it. My argument is that it wasn't, here. My independent argument for Drew town is that it looks organic coming from town and a bit unnecessary and strategically meh as scum.

What I should check is whether Isis' hood tried to get the Gob hood stumping first (as she would know my hood stumping = loss).

[Auro]

Spoiler:

VOTE: Hood 3

VOTE: hood 3

I thought yall were 1? And turkey was 3?

No we are 3, it says the number next to your PT.

Gotcha - in that case VOTE: Hood 2

Why do you want to vote my hood?

I think my hood and Gobbles' hood both town

Why is Gobble's hood town? I think you're pretty likely to internalize the 6/7th 1/7th skew on your own, so that's less interesting to me.

It's not impossible for Adorable to both be scum and not realize it was possible she could have randed scum with someone from a different hood.

I misspoke wading through hypotheticals and counter factuals trying to explain my point. I was saying adorable could be scum with a hoodmate and be unsure whether she had the possibility of randing scum with a crosshood mate.

You should very closely review posts at this point. I vote hood 3 thinking they're Isis hood.
Isis immediately sheeps.
Superbowl goes "I thought hood 3 was Turkey" and then immediately lays down a vote for hood 2 when drew clarifies.

It's kinda cool that both presumably made that slip, no? Almost as if they talked about Gobbles' hood as hood 3 in their scum PT, and then jumped on it when I seemingly voted there...

And then I go on to say Gob's hood is town, and Isis fights it. Wasn't she supposed to be scumreading me at that time anyway?

[Adorable]

Post #207 and #219 by Isis were so scummy. So Auro town reads my hood and Isis fights it. I'm still going to leave my vote on hood 1 which is the Isis hood I believe. Isis is lying saying she scum reads me for meta but she doesn't have a meta read on me.

[Isis]

Why do you keep chanting "doesn't have a meta read", could you like use different terminology like "misread" or like even the evil version "fabricated a meta read"

I don't like sounding like an illiterate three year old who made up the words for a storybook it's like rude yknow.

I did think you were scummy based on a comparison of how you played this game to some previous ones.
If you want to put a harsh and exacting BoP on it that's fine and whatever.

[Isis]

Ftr
I would definitely never use the awful numbering scheme more than strictly necessary in any PTs that I have

[Morning Tweet]

make superbowl self vote

i doubt im gonna change my stance at this point. i know our hoods are less reliable votes wise but that's my vote

[Isis]

There's no extension for the replacement right