Raya's posting hasn't swayed me much. She did list the two individuals I think might be mafia in the event she's town at the bottom, so that is nice but probably only after a green flip from her.
I find it extremely interesting she still doesn't know who the king-maker is. It's also somewhat interesting she put the king at the very bottom of her reads.
Still want a claim
I know who the kingmaker is, I just wasnt making any assumptions since it's not 100% confirmed and something that probably could be claimed without worry of being NKed. But I suppose it kinda already was claimed. (Also I'm still pretty mad at myself and on denial that I missed the claim :/)
I don't really see why being the king gives any credit towards being townread. Outside of the kingmaker obviously town reading them.
It doesn't. But if you are scum, then putting Star at the bottom of your reads could be a risky move.
In post 524, Ydrasse wrote:yeahhh... do people here actually townread starbuck? or is it like, a thing where everyone is just trying to appease the king lmao.
because in retrospect, while i didn't think hectic's case was in the best faith at the time... knowing he's town now i'm more inclined to think in this situation, especially with the lack of two kills, that starbuck is maf.
Starbuck taking Hectic's suspicion of her personally pings town to me. I wonder if she would be so quick as to accuse Hectic of attacking her integrity as a person, as scum. Especially if she is was actually caught out in a lie
That's the main thing I have on Star. Comparatively, she's below DD/NDMath by a decent amount, though.
State intent on one of us. If you're scum you could be trying to fish two claims. I'm not claiming until intent to eliminate is on just me. And Ydrasse shouldn't claim unless intent is on just her.
In post 498, Fidget wrote:NDMath I think is high likelihood town for the mason claim, but if he's a werewolf mason he can get away with it. His recap of how he felt about the NM/Hectic mason thing was pretty good
If I'm teamed with Glitch day 1 plays out much differently.
Could you go into detail?
Bussing doesn't seem like something one does in multiball I guess? Especially when neither has actual abilities.
It's wifom but I would have made him roleclaim something when fidget intented to dayvig him.
At eod after I claimed I could have easily stayed on starbuck instead of moving to glitch and starbuck probably gets eliminated instead.
In post 434, Starbuck wrote:So reading through Raya's ISO (and I wish I wasn't on mobile so I could be more thorough with quotes and links), but she waffles back and forth between Pooky and Glitch throughout the day. First she agrees with Pooky towards the beginning and now towards the end she completely flips her opinion around and agrees with Glitch. Stating that she doesn't think he's scum anymore and that Pooky is. I think Pooky's 422 & 426 explore this all really well.
Then there's the whole thing where she keeps bringing up why me/BG isn't being discussed the same way that Pooky/Doc is being discussed. When I asked this of her, she responded in 386 that she felt the hypocrisy was scummy not the discard and that she wasn't attacking me, but attacking their hypocrisy. However, I find this to be inconsistent because I feel like she was suspecting me all along given her quick sheep of Hectic. She gives two lines in that same post parroting Hectic's case, but nothing further in regards to me.
There's a bit more, but that's all I have time for on my break. I do think there's POE in Raya/Hectic/Glitch. I think at this point I'd prefer a Raya elimination most of all, but eliminating within there would be best. My opinion hasn't changed on Glitch and I'd be willing to swap there if needed.
Alright. If your intent is on only me I'll claim. But reevaluate based on my claim before making someone else claim. If you are scum I don't want you forcing claims out of all the town
Alright. I'm a cop. I get a guilty if the player is aligned with mafia and not guilty otherwise. I checked DoubleDare since he was my most uncertain read and got not guilty of course. (Which is why I was saying I was super annoyed that I missed the claim). That's also why I focused a lot on who would be aligned with the WWs and decided it's unlikely there are any more. That way I can check someone who I don't think is a ww and get a "false inno".
In post 498, Fidget wrote:NDMath I think is high likelihood town for the mason claim, but if he's a werewolf mason he can get away with it. His recap of how he felt about the NM/Hectic mason thing was pretty good
If I'm teamed with Glitch day 1 plays out much differently.
Could you go into detail?
Bussing doesn't seem like something one does in multiball I guess? Especially when neither has actual abilities.
It's wifom but I would have made him roleclaim something when fidget intented to dayvig him.
At eod after I claimed I could have easily stayed on starbuck instead of moving to glitch and starbuck probably gets eliminated instead.
What do you mean “when neither has any special abilities?”
In post 540, Raya36 wrote:Alright. I'm a cop. I get a guilty if the player is aligned with mafia and not guilty otherwise. I checked DoubleDare since he was my most uncertain read and got not guilty of course. (Which is why I was saying I was super annoyed that I missed the claim). That's also why I focused a lot on who would be aligned with the WWs and decided it's unlikely there are any more. That way I can check someone who I don't think is a ww and get a "false inno".
That's a mighty convenient investigation to have, if you're scum fake claiming. I do kind of want to kill you for that, I think there's a decent chance you stalling and waiting is all fake and you're just trying to get out of an elimination with this.
But it is consistent with you not noticing Double's claim. If you were scum trying to save yourself, I'd at least expect a stronger investigation claim. That one is so weak.
But at the same time, maybe that's just what you want us to think
I think overall I'm going to let Starbuck decide probably. I decently do not believe Ydrasse is scum, so where I would go next after you, I am unsure.
