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Post Post #4350 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2021 4:11 am

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I knew Taly was town the second I replaced in.
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Post Post #4351 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2021 4:12 am

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It was an impressive piece of social deduction on my part.
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Post Post #4352 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2021 4:15 am

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It was fun playing with you, when you left I started trusting cake so that was not good for me

I think it's interesting that town basically got info from two miselims (Titus and HC) without actually miseliming them. In retrospect scum probably needed to force those through to have a better shot in the game.
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Post Post #4353 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2021 4:25 am

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brassherald wrote:I knew Taly was town the second I replaced in.
brassherald wrote:It was an impressive piece of social deduction on my part.
WAIT, DO YOU HAVE AN ALT HERE?
In post 4352, MURDERCAT wrote:It was fun playing with you, when you left I started trusting cake so that was not good for me

I think it's interesting that town basically got info from two miselims (Titus and HC) without actually miseliming them. In retrospect scum probably needed to force those through to have a better shot in the game.
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fun playing with you too, I REALLY was loving the vibe going on with your slot but I was quite scattered this game.

Scum was not very aggressive this game which gave me quite a few red herring impressions because I figured scum would've been forcing their will onto the plist more.

Any benefit scum garnered from the plist's approach, the notions were generated from town (like the plans).

It's kind of impressive that town pulled this one out considering the volume of TvT there was here.
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Post Post #4354 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2021 4:31 am

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Ironically, if I confbiased myself into oblivion and never touched my original townreads on
Ower/Pooky/Alisae/BM (which I only ever seriously questioned Pooky tbf)
, I was at my peak solving potential
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Post Post #4355 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2021 4:41 am

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In post 4344, Taly wrote:Titus, I was hardcrumbing this to you in 3261 and 3277, btw.
My skin itches and I'm blinded. Must be my crumb allergy. Sorry.
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Post Post #4356 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2021 4:45 am

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In post 4353, Taly wrote:WAIT, DO YOU HAVE AN ALT HERE?
Yes.

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Post Post #4357 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2021 6:57 am

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In post 4325, DkKoba wrote:
In post 4322, Thestatusquo wrote:
In post 4318, DkKoba wrote:idk I approach mechs as another way to scumhunt someone, even if on paper it means nothing.
in chat mafia a lot of setups are heavily mech oriented. people read into HOW people claim stuff and discern alignment from it. (like ppl will call out a cop claim as scummy since they might word their report inno Player, when the system message says player is [alignment], etc)

if you take a look at betrayal mafia I, normally no one would think anything about someone claiming a sword like Lavar did(in fact forum players might instinctively townread it), but i used it as a sort of way to discern the intent of the person doing said action.

mafia is complex :) everything can be read into and deduced even if you disagree with it.
I've probably played more chat mafia then you have tbh.
i have ~3k games played across all my accounts on varying types of setups
Yeah I'm definitely over that, though all of it came roughly a decade ago.
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Post Post #4358 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2021 6:59 am

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In post 4334, SirCakez wrote:I think I could have gotten pretty far if I had had the Task Disruptor role
I think a lot of the issue is you played in such a way as to set yourself up in a position to deep wolf, and that was just never going to work for a goon in this setup.
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Post Post #4359 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2021 7:07 am

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I didn't know how else to play my position
I didn't want to bus Blitzo or Flea but events happened that made it impossible not to
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Post Post #4360 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2021 7:11 am

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I think SirCakez might have been the final scum.
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Post Post #4361 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2021 7:22 am

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In post 4359, SirCakez wrote:I didn't know how else to play my position
I didn't want to bus Blitzo or Flea but events happened that made it impossible not to
This is an outside observers perspective but I felt like your day play made it was more likely they would be elimmed at several points. I think you were too distance negative about them in ways that actively made them more likely to be eliminated. Also, blitzo submitting the kill the night he got blocked was just straight up incorrect I think.
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Post Post #4362 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2021 7:26 am

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In post 4361, Thestatusquo wrote:
In post 4359, SirCakez wrote:I didn't know how else to play my position
I didn't want to bus Blitzo or Flea but events happened that made it impossible not to
This is an outside observers perspective but I felt like your day play made it was more likely they would be elimmed at several points. I think you were too distance negative about them in ways that actively made them more likely to be eliminated. Also, blitzo submitting the kill the night he got blocked was just straight up incorrect I think.
This is less relevant with Flea, but Blitzo in particular I think the scum team was far too distancy-bussy early on such that the slot was under constant pressure and the eventual need to actually support the lim came from getting the slot investigative role blocked BECAUSE of that early game pressure on the slot. I think if scum had just been much more hesitant to jump on the blitzo wagons early and much less vocal about calling him suspicious that role block doesn't even necessarily happen, but even if it still did the PR shouldn't be submitting the kill.

Basically aside from Flea's slip I think the main thing scum didn't do well this game is prioritize which roles were important and try to keep suspicion and wagons off of them.
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Post Post #4363 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2021 8:10 am

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Blitzo doing the kill was a total mistake yeah
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Post Post #4364 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2021 9:07 am

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I think you were too willing to bus and distance from buddies. Sometimes it is okay to defend them. At least when I draw scum I like to figure out both who is the most important role wise that needs to survive as well as the most likely. And that sometimes means pretending not to see obviously scummy things my partners are doing because I need them alive.
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Post Post #4365 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2021 9:09 am

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In post 4364, T-Bone wrote:I think you were too willing to bus and distance from buddies. Sometimes it is okay to defend them. At least when I draw scum I like to figure out both who is the most important role wise that needs to survive as well as the most likely. And that sometimes means pretending not to see obviously scummy things my partners are doing because I need them alive.
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Post Post #4366 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2021 9:10 am

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In post 4356, brassherald wrote:
In post 4353, Taly wrote:WAIT, DO YOU HAVE AN ALT HERE?
Yes.

I post the DK Rap.
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wha

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damnit, i didnt know :eek:
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Post Post #4367 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2021 9:11 am

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In post 4333, SirCakez wrote:
In post 4295, Battle Mage wrote:great game, incredible performance by SirCakez! Either he has improved a lot, or just really stepped it up for this game. Is there a scummy for outstanding individual scum performance in a horrific scum defeat? :lol: If it wasn't for the alt wincon, he maybe has a shot here. And even at the end, hilarious that it's him pushing hardest to help town get over the line. Which incidentally, is why abandoning the alt wincon would have been completely stupid. On the strategy, claiming rooms was key to getting maximum utility out of my role, although we moved in big enough groups that it never really came into play. Happy to survive, unclaimed, despite being pushed endlessly. :wink:
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Post Post #4368 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2021 9:13 am

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In post 4348, brassherald wrote:Balfruss was the one I was looking for when I claimed, by the way. Thanks for picking that up, buddy!
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Post Post #4369 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2021 9:34 am

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In post 4333, SirCakez wrote:Cabd gave me some tips after the Xeno 2 disaster that helped a lot I think
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Post Post #4370 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2021 9:35 am

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I took the advice of just being town.
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Post Post #4371 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2021 9:36 am

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In post 4369, Cabd wrote:
In post 4333, SirCakez wrote:Cabd gave me some tips after the Xeno 2 disaster that helped a lot I think
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what tips helped cakez out a lot
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Post Post #4372 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2021 10:26 am

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In post 4359, SirCakez wrote:I didn't know how else to play my position
I didn't want to bus Blitzo or Flea but events happened that made it impossible not to
You were bussing me since d1.
I get that towncred is really intoxicating and that town played well but there was so much wiggle room for what scum could have done this game. It felt like our team just kept shooting themselves in the foot for no reason over and over, and it's hard to stay motivated when the team insists on making things worse for no gain.
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Post Post #4373 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2021 10:43 am

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I also strongly disagree with the concept of deep wolf - though I also value bussing and limming scum way less than a number of players so maybe that's just me.
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Post Post #4374 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2021 11:20 am

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Blitzo I had you in my SRs but I never put you as a serious push of mine until the rb happened
I appreciate the advice people are giving me here
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