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[Thestatusquo]

Also how much reading is it based on

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Hope you're feeling better Mena!

Town!
CSF
Datisi
Ausuka
scamper

Town
S_S
Frog

Idfk
Nero
Ydra
Shea
GL

Scum?
DV
Dannflor
fireisredsir

My head is hurting again and my nostrils are attempting to recreate the river Nile so I’m going to lie down but not before I leave y’all with this barebones ass readlist

Interested in hearing more about the dannflor scumread in particular when you have time, that's a spicy read

[Datisi]

i am interested in hearing about p much all of those :3

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Oh, I think fb ~generally~ when scum = having more fun, seems like is enjoying game etc. This is amplified imo if it’s people he likes playing with, and I think there’s enough old hands here who I’m p sure he gets along decently with (like sure there’s no MariaR or RC who I remember him particularly liking) but I would expect him to be an order of magnitude more excited if he were scum in what, to him, would be a good PL

I kind of agree with this meta read on Fb but i don't think it's worth putting much stock into it this game, since FB mentioned he was busy irl, and that could've affected his play

[DeasVail]

Nero, you seem quite bothered by my posts. Do you think I’m scum?

probably, yes

probably, yes

Cool

UNVOTE:

????

Your scumread on me seems superficial but not inauthentic

I mildly like this sequence from DV

DV seems generally pretty careful and deliberate with his posting, it could be partially for optics or it could just be his style. Aside from the sequence I quoted I didn't see a lot that deviated from "scum playing a standard solid-ish scumgame". Since there are surely other people who also fit that description, I guess he's on the chopping block for low activity?

His progression on me doesn't really make a lot of sense, it seemed like he had me as town for mild efforting when it was potentially possible to get towncred from WK'ing, and now that my wagon has collapsed he wants to keep open the option of re-starting it. Or he just happened to have weakly-justified reads that followed that pattern.

I'm guessing that #5185 and #5186 are within Dease's scum range?

I would think so. At this point scum-Deas has license to go for a risky-ish play.

As far as I can see, these are the only S_S posts on you from D2, DV and tbh I’m not seeing it?

He seems to have been fairly openly not pro-MT lim but I think this is far too little to conclude that he’s hoping it might get you limmed instead

As for why he’s not as interested in you today, that I am curious about but I have an idea of what it could be, although I’d like to see S_S respond first

I think it's worth noting that at the time I was looking like the most viable alternative wagon to Gamma/MT. Thus, the posts you've quoted are very much leaving me open as an option, but the fact that there is not more about me from S_S indicates a weird hesitation from him to consider the main alternative to MT, despite being not pro-MT lim.

[Frogsterking]

VOTE: S_S

Flip here first imo i could see enalque or dease being tpr actually

[Frogsterking]

VOTE: menalque

eh idk

[DeasVail]

I find Menalque’s townread on S_S to be very superficial, and the identification of myself and Dannflor, for example, as scumreads without any further explanation feels underdone. Keen to hear more.

[Something_Smart]

VOTE: S_S

Flip here first imo i could see enalque or dease being tpr actually

Mena claimed VT

[scamper]

hi, i need to catch up again

[scamper]

It's scum looking for that long shot chance

How does that make any sense? Why wouldn't I just push for Mena if I wanted someone to die who isn't me?

I feel like Something_Smart as town would actually be more survivalist here? Voting Nero seems to me like an attempt at looking town.

fwiw i saw that earlier and i kind of agree with this...

[scamper]

im not exactly whelmed by those mena posts, the previous pages didnt give me a whole lot to comment on otherwise

id still swap to vote s_s, me voting anyone else today would take a strongly worded case

[Thestatusquo]

Whelmed is exactly how I feel about the mena posts personally.

[Thestatusquo]

There is less follow through than I would like.

[DeasVail]

I’m at the stage where I think both S_S and Menalque are scummy but I don’t necessarily think they’re scum together and I don’t know how to feel about that.

[scamper]

I’m at the stage where I think both S_S and Menalque are scummy but I don’t necessarily think they’re scum together and I don’t know how to feel about that.

is there a particular reason u believe they are unaligned?

[DeasVail]

I’m at the stage where I think both S_S and Menalque are scummy but I don’t necessarily think they’re scum together and I don’t know how to feel about that.

is there a particular reason u believe they are unaligned?

Menalque’s weak reasoning for townreading Firebringer feels a bit blatant for scum
who knows that Fb was scum.

I guess it’s not that unlikely, but idk. It doesn’t feeel like that’s the solve.

[GuiltyLion]

idk I kinda feel like

if

they're both scum, then they're in a position where they're forced to defend each other. bussing at this stage isn't gonna net significant towncred and they wouldn't really have a team left, possibly losing outright if both are flipped.

that's not an argument

for

them being scum together, but I don't see this "townread and refuse to vote each other" play as clearing or T-S if one flips red

[DeasVail]

idk I kinda feel like

if

they're both scum, then they're in a position where they're forced to defend each other. bussing at this stage isn't gonna net significant towncred and they wouldn't really have a team left, possibly losing outright if both are flipped.

that's not an argument

for

them being scum together, but I don't see this "townread and refuse to vote each other" play as clearing or T-S if one flips red

Yeah it’s a good point you make and I hadn’t really gone fully down the path of “if they’re scum together how would they act”, but idk neither of them are playing in a way that’s likely to cause anything else to happen.

[Dannflor]

Menalque I would like to talk to you about your Frogster read

Can you go into as much detail as you’re able to as to why you’re town reading him

[fireisredsir]

sorry im alive

was dealing with some stuff. not really up for playing rn but it doesn't look like much has changed. will vote either ss or mena to get a lim idc

[scamper]

I’m at the stage where I think both S_S and Menalque are scummy but I don’t necessarily think they’re scum together and I don’t know how to feel about that.

is there a particular reason u believe they are unaligned?

Menalque’s weak reasoning for townreading Firebringer feels a bit blatant for scum
who knows that Fb was scum.

I guess it’s not that unlikely, but idk. It doesn’t feeel like that’s the solve.

i don't necessarily want to get ahead of myself or anything, but *hypothetically* in a world where mena is scum he basically does not expect to endgame and is mostly trying to be confusing. i would put more emphasis on the slot's play from earlier days in terms of looking at potential (un)alignment with other players

[Dannflor]

who is the person trying hardest to appear town right now

[fireisredsir]

i mean, frog imo, but idk he probably is town

[Ydrasse]

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