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Post Post #7050 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:00 am

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VOTE: mena
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Post Post #7051 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:00 am

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its more of a gamestate read than an individual read ig

individually i feel like both could be scum and i don't really know how to tell which one is. maybe my heart still doesn't believe that obscure was scum. or that skitter was scum. if i was only reading mena then id prob think he's scum so...idk, maybe the previous two just played it well

i really didn't like the way SS handled the invictus comparison bc i think this feels a lot like invictus mena where he was super disengaged and only popped in every once in a while and just seemed kinda... unaware of what was going on and was putting very little stake in the game. saying that his lack of presence here was possibly scum-indicative felt really wrong to me
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Post Post #7052 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:00 am

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In post 7048, Something_Smart wrote:I'm about ready to switch to Mena, I think.
why is mena scummy to you
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Post Post #7053 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:01 am

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What, so I have to find someone scummy to vote them now?
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #7054 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:03 am

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In post 7051, fireisredsir wrote:i really didn't like the way SS handled the invictus comparison bc i think this feels a lot like invictus mena where he was super disengaged and only popped in every once in a while and just seemed kinda... unaware of what was going on and was putting very little stake in the game. saying that his lack of presence here was possibly scum-indicative felt really wrong to me
I mean he was very vocal to me that he was super busy and had stuff going on irl. When I made that comparison he hadn't said anything about that this game. He did later say something about being sick, but then he said he felt better and he still hasn't done anything.
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Post Post #7055 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:03 am

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well i'm hoping you would give some sorta justification for your words because i am kind of wishing to just murder through both you and mena so maybe give me reasons to change my mind
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Post Post #7056 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:03 am

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How would a justification ever change your mind there?
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #7057 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:04 am

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well gee idk s_s maybe if i read something that i determine is a townie mindset from you, i might change my mind???
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Post Post #7058 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:06 am

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I mean you've had 261 chances to do that. I don't think the 262nd one is gonna be the one that does it.
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Post Post #7059 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:06 am

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like this is such a basic "ask people i scumread why they're saying the things they're saying to get an insight into their thought process and hopefully change my mind if i am wrong" procedure like idk why you're not willing to have a convo
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
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Post Post #7060 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:07 am

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IDK why you are wasting your time, dats
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #7061 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:07 am

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I mean, I'm not unwilling to have a convo, but I feel like my thoughts on Mena have been pretty clear. I had real trouble reading his predecessor, I liked his response to the reaction test, but I don't like that he hasn't done anything. I'm wary of the two of us being chain limmed, but I don't really have an interest in shielding him if he's not going to do anything (which could very well be antispew).
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Post Post #7062 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:08 am

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In post 7040, fireisredsir wrote:you think this looks more like the scum game?
No I think it looks more like the town game, my point is simply that I don't think frogster is that aware of the differences between town scum and frog scum.

Or at the very least, I don't think the play here remotely looks like the scum play. So like, yeah is it possible frogster has gained +1000skill points since that scum game, maybe but I don't think its particularly likely.
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Post Post #7063 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:08 am

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In post 7060, Nero Cain wrote:IDK why you are wasting your time, dats
buddy i'm playing forum mafia, time wasting is in the activity description
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Post Post #7064 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:10 am

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I think the longer the game day goes on the more...idk kind of performative S_S's reasons for not doing anything before? Idk they feel a lot less sincere to me than they did at the beginning of the day but maybe that's just a reflection of my just general wanting this day to be over more than anything else.
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Post Post #7065 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:10 am

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*become not before
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Post Post #7066 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:10 am

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In post 7062, Thestatusquo wrote:
In post 7040, fireisredsir wrote:you think this looks more like the scum game?
No I think it looks more like the town game, my point is simply that I don't think frogster is that aware of the differences between town scum and frog scum.

Or at the very least, I don't think the play here remotely looks like the scum play. So like, yeah is it possible frogster has gained +1000skill points since that scum game, maybe but I don't think its particularly likely.
which scum game did you read? large normal 238 he made a lot of efforts to match aspects of his play to aspects of his townplay, more than i remembered. he is def aware of the differences
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Post Post #7067 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:11 am

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In post 7066, fireisredsir wrote:
In post 7062, Thestatusquo wrote:
In post 7040, fireisredsir wrote:you think this looks more like the scum game?
No I think it looks more like the town game, my point is simply that I don't think frogster is that aware of the differences between town scum and frog scum.

Or at the very least, I don't think the play here remotely looks like the scum play. So like, yeah is it possible frogster has gained +1000skill points since that scum game, maybe but I don't think its particularly likely.
which scum game did you read? large normal 238 he made a lot of efforts to match aspects of his play to aspects of his townplay, more than i remembered. he is def aware of the differences
idr, whichever one was linked in the thread.
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Post Post #7068 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:18 am

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In post 7051, fireisredsir wrote:individually i feel like both could be scum and i don't really know how to tell which one is. maybe my heart still doesn't believe that obscure was scum. or that skitter was scum. if i was only reading mena then id prob think he's scum so...idk, maybe the previous two just played it well
heh, I'm kind of the opposite, I have more reasons to townread Mena than the other two. I still think everything I posted about obscure in and holds up

I wanted to give Mena an opportunity to redeem the slot but if this is the level of effort/engagement he is going to offer then I don't think I'll ever get to a point of comfortably townreading there even if it is town

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Post Post #7069 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:31 am

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in fairness, Mena is sick. So that could be why his posting is lacking and it's not necessarily AI. but he's a cummy vt and a p good d3 lim regardless of alignment. And if he's sick he needs to be in bed getting better and not worrying about this game. Tis a mercy hammer.
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Post Post #7070 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:35 am

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Post Post #7071 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:37 am

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ummm he's SCUMMY.
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Post Post #7072 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:46 am

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Post Post #7073 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:47 am

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Post Post #7074 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:52 am

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