Mini 2292: Anything uPick - Game Over!

[Wavelength]

No, you were right about the win cons

But that was no excuse for him not dying day 3 and 4. Town decided to ignore him and hunt for scum instead (for some reason) and killed town both days

[Wavelength]

I got confused by wincon. Idk.

Once you went and quoted Control, I messaged the mod.

Because, I was like.... Enchant is right, and the mod messed it up... in the exact same way twice.

But I don't know how I am supposed to argue that the mod messed up the design.

So I told him I needed him to either tell me that I can joint win with Pinkball, or correct the flipped win cons.

I was really hoping he would just tell me that I could win with pinkball, and we could go for a joint win .

[Enchant]

I decided to not argue and went for listmod with ask to review setup.

Then message happened. So... Oh well. Idk?

[SirCakez]

Votecount 8.3

Wavelength (2) - Flea the Magician, Enchant
Flea the Magician (1) - Wavelength

Not voting (0)

(expired on 2023-04-05 18:04:00) remain until day end

With 3 players alive, it takes 2 to reach a majority.

[SirCakez]

Wavelength has been eliminated day 8! He was

Kurama

Welcome to Anything uPick Wavelength!

You are Kurama

"You should know better than to corner an animal like a fox, Karasu. We have a tendency to show our teeth."

Abilities

-During the day, you may vote for whoever you want to eliminate.
-You may discuss with your Mafia teammates in your factional PT at all times here:
-The Mafia has a factional night kill that one of you may use each night to attempt to kill another player.
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Demon Power - Control Plants

- Twice at night, you may use your plant powers to wrap another player in thorns, causing all actions targeting them to fail.
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Demon Power - Fox Transformation

- Twice at night, you may turn into a demon fox at night and lure another player to you, forcing them to target you instead of their chosen target. They will not be told they were lured.
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Analytical Thinking

- Twice at night, you may visit another player and learn their flavor and role.
-You can only use one ability per night.

You win once the

Mafia

control 50% of the population, or nothing can prevent this from happening.
The game thread is here: viewtopic.php?t=90521

[SirCakez]

All threats to the Town have been eliminated!

The Town has won the game!

Enchant, Stephen A Smith, survives!

Flea the Magician, The Happy Mask Salesman, survives!

[SirCakez]

PTs go here

Design/Mod Topic - viewtopic.php?t=90522
Dead Chat - viewtopic.php?t=90599
The Dream Dimension (highly recommend this one) - viewtopic.php?t=90565
The Animal Farm - viewtopic.php?t=90563

Mafia Chat - viewtopic.php?t=90566
Amici Curiae Hydra PT - viewtopic.php?t=90570

[SirCakez]

I really hope people had fun with this game. I always try to lean into whatever flavor I am designing with and make roles and game mechanics fun and this game was no different. I know that some people weren't crazy about their roles but I hope that they at least had some fun with them - I put a lot of thought and work into every pick.

Obviously the main problem here was my fuckup with the Mafia wincon, duplicated from Control exactly. There isn't really any excuse for this happening again - I screwed up badly and it affected the game's outcome and hurt both Pink Ball and Wavelength, who played great games and deserved better than the way the last few days went. The only thing I can say is that it just completely slipped my mind when I was in design. For some reason, the default Mafia wincon in my head was to get to 50% of the population - I guess because that would function as a win in a normal TvS game. Going forward, I will be ensuring this does not ever happen again. I also don't think I will be modding a game with a third-party role again any time soon - I just want to do some town vs mafia for the time being and I think a lot of players on site want that too.

I also want to work on my role PM wording, which Alisae and a few others pointed to as confusing in a few spots and I completely agree! This is another thing I will be working on clarifying in my future games.

I hope that y'all will still give my games another chance in the future - I'm always trying to improve and I'm open to any other criticism you guys have!

[SirCakez]

reserved for whatever

[Alisae]

Wave surprised me with their scum game tbh

[Enchant]

Don't make 50% wincons because they are not really checking for Vigilante+Doctor combo which can save town from already achived mafia parity. There's like little reason to do so.

[Marashu]

GG all, and well played town! No redactions from me.

[SirCakez]

Don't make 50% wincons because they are not really checking for Vigilante+Doctor combo which can save town from already achived mafia parity. There's like little reason to do so.

another good reason
the scum wincon for me going forward will be for all other players to be dead - I don't think that can be messed up or misinterpreted in any way

[Enchant]

It can be messed up if there's survivors or jester which generally mafia don't need to kill.

"Kill all threats" is way to go.

[SirCakez]

I don't think I will be using a Survivor or Jester in any of my games anytime soon haha
But sure, "Kill all threats" does sound best since that leaves some interpretation open

[Pink Ball]

that mother fucker

This was said in jest.

I thoroughly enjoyed Pinkball this game.

Please read my PT if you have the chance, I hated/loved you this game and a lot of what happened from D3 onwards between us was just me being performative, but I really enjoyed going against you

[Cephrir]

please elim the claimed serial killer next time haha

[Pink Ball]

please elim the claimed serial killer next time haha

I could have fake claimed but didn’t, I think that’s why people were a little wary

[Pink Ball]

In retrospective, I think I would have won if I went for the Banana Slicer claim

[Wavelength]

Wave surprised me with their scum game tbh

[Alisae]

I’m not used to playing with sks tbh

[Alisae]

Wave surprised me with their scum game tbh

Whenever I see ur pfp I feel like ur lookin at me with puppy dog eyes

[Wavelength]

that mother fucker

This was said in jest.

I thoroughly enjoyed Pinkball this game.

Please read my PT if you have the chance, I hated/loved you this game and a lot of what happened from D3 onwards between us

was just me being performative

, but I really enjoyed going against you

Oh, I could tell.

Especially towards the end, it felt like you were not even attempting to keep your arguments consistent, and I was like "I wish I could do that, but I actually have to pretend to be town here, and he stopped having to do that DAYS AGO"

I was jealous lmao

[Wavelength]

Just so you know, I was not actually ever upset with you for not listening to me . I just shouted to sell that I was a genuinely upset townie.

I was down for LLD to be miselimed that day. (although, I firmly believed that I was making the argument for what town REALLY SHOULD BE DOING lol)

There is even a post in my PT where I went from ALL CAPS SHOUTING AT YOU IN THE MAIN THREAD, to "you know, this does not even really mean anything different for me" in the PT lol

[Wavelength]

I’m not used to playing with sks tbh

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