TM 2023 | Super Mario Bros Mafia | Game Over!

[HighPrincessErinys]

That's E-2 again this one believes.

[Jingle]

It is. I’d rather we wait until the 14 hour timer on wgeurts ends before e-1 in case cerbs scum qh’s, but that’s a relatively small concern.

[Jingle]

It does really need to be Porkens here.

Cerb's claim is at least partly verifiable, wgeurts is off the table for me, and while I personally would be okay with CSF or peta, my team is very firmly not.

Porkens is the only scummy slot left, I'm not moving.

While we wait, towncase wgeurts?

[HighPrincessErinys]

It does really need to be Porkens here.

Cerb's claim is at least partly verifiable, wgeurts is off the table for me, and while I personally would be okay with CSF or peta, my team is very firmly not.

Porkens is the only scummy slot left, I'm not moving.

While we wait, towncase wgeurts?

A lot of what this one has heard on wgeurts being town is the readwall and push in general having town vibes in it's conviction but it doesn't think it's heard much else other than vibes/perceived town motive? But it doesn't remember precisely what everyone's said on it since wgeurts hasn't been in the spotlight for a while compared to Cerb and now Porkens.

[Radical Rat]

Initially wgeurts worried me because they were far more thorough than I anticipated from early game, but that was pointed out to be normal for them, which I have no reason to doubt, and all of the actual logic was reasonable there.

Then the whole deal with "catching" HPE looked very genuine to me. I don't see scum faking pronoun confusion to make a push like that, and the fervor behind it seemed like actual excitement.

I do share the frustration with the extended bouts of silence, but when wgeurts is here and playing they look Town the whole time.

[Porkens]

I get better later in the day

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Look I’m town RR is way off too off actually probscum there btw. But I’m town and I wanna live, just tell me what I have to do to make that happen

How are they way too off? How is their scum read on you different from other people's scum reads on you?

[Radical Rat]

I get better later in the day

It's about as late in the day as it's gonna get

[petapan]

I get better later in the day

at what point in the day is that supposed to be

for the sheer sake of mercy i asked Dunn about the game he modded several years ago were you were scum, =9469]SIN and he said you actually made an effort to try that game, rather than doing nothing here, so has doubts on your alignment

so i'm here trying to ask what's going on and why you've been doing nothing but trolling all game day

[petapan]

that was actually hetold me to do: ask you straight up, why is there a difference?

[Porkens]

sorry in the game not in the day.

It's a terrible time for me, I'm barely hanging on. dont want to replace out, but this is exactly where i am righ tnow

[petapan]

why did you say "day" at first if you meant "game", those are pretty different things

[Jingle]

FWIW I explicitly believe that Porkens is struggling with IRL shit due to ogi I stumbled on. This is not me saying that porkens is town or scum, but rather that porkens lack of engagement is probably NAI in this case. I’d share the ogi, but a) it’s not my place and b) it’s not game relevant.

[petapan]

i don't doubt it's real but also the routine of scum being run up and stalling while using appeals to emotion is a time-honored routine

so i don't actually care

[Jingle]

Fair. What’s your take on wgeurts sudden departure from planet erf?

[Radical Rat]

@peta

Klick says to tell you not to tie your perspective to Fate on account of Fate being incredibly wrong

[wgeurts]

Fair. What’s your take on wgeurts sudden departure from planet erf?

Yeah do not base your read on me for this, I'm not giving more information why I'm not around because it's about personal circumstances but when I say "I've had a rough day" I mean it. I know I said I would post thereafter, that was my also my intention. I haven't been able to do so.

Saying this as nicely as possible

[Jingle]

Yeah, so explicitly you have literally not been playing the game for roughly half a week. I understand that RL takes precedence, but it is also incredibly frustrating that that is true of 3 slots and might as well be true of more.

It also not why I’m basing my read on you the way I am. Cerbs is towntunneling you for consistency of reads, when that consistency is a deathtunnel on a lhf slot that hasn’t been reevaluated… ever. Peta is towntunneling you and simultaneously pushing a slot for being unable to put out content.

If I can’t read you because you’re not playing the game, I can most certainly attempt to read other people based on your absence, and I frankly don’t give a shit if you think I’m being rude when I point out that you’re literally being prodded for failing to post game content.

[wgeurts]

Sure, read for me my content but leave my absence out of it. I am going to be reading in the next hour.

Also I strongly disagree that I haven't got content, I'm one of the largest posters despite having not been active past few days. I hope that I'll find actual content regarding said posts that I can interact with.

[SirCakez]

Votecount 1.10

Porkens (4) - Cat Scratch Fever, Adorable, Radical Rat, HighPrincessErinys
wgeurts (2) - Fate, Jingle
Cerberus v666 (1) - Porkens
HighPrincessErinys (1) - wgeurts

Not voting (2) - Cerberus v666, Petapan

(expired on 2023-04-26 11:46:00) remain until day end

With 10 players alive, it takes 6 to reach a majority.

[Jingle]

Spoiler: the actual context of what you’re responding to

i don't doubt it's real but also the routine of scum being run up and stalling while using appeals to emotion is a time-honored routine

so i don't actually care

Fair. What’s your take on wgeurts sudden departure from planet erf?

I’m not arguing you don’t have content. I’m arguing that cerbs reason of “wgeurts should be read for progression” is not at all a reason to townread you given… very little progression. I’m arguing that peta being entirely fine with your absence while crusading the policy lim on porkens is at least worth poking. And I’m venting my frustrations that it feels like I’m the only one fucking doing things.

I explicitly believe that you’ve been busy irl, although it is concerning to me that neither Titus or ythan have been following along enough to help you even slightly while rl sucks, but sympathy for being busy doesn’t mean I won’t play as hard as I fucking can.

And I completely get rl getting in the way. I haven’t had the time to do deep iso dives or exhaustive meta comparisons on porkens or baseline mood analyses of the rest of the player lists’ ooh posting or anything I’d count as high effort. This game is me slacking hard, and I’m still the largest source of content by a country mile.

[petapan]

@peta

Klick says to tell you not to tie your perspective to Fate on account of Fate being incredibly wrong

lol appreciated

[wgeurts]

Titus is literally dealing with a medical problem they've posted about in their own game and Ythan hasn't been following my game and got prodded for their own. I'll admit I skimmed and missed the post prior. Catching up.

[petapan]

Fair. What’s your take on wgeurts sudden departure from planet erf?

i don't have a take

they are likely busy for non game related reasons. they posted content before that was readable, i believe they will again

[Cerberus v666]

Hello all. Full engagement is still like 12 hours away. I've missed a bunch of stuff, but did catch Jingle misunderstanding my stance on wgeurts.

Wgeurts town is in the approach. It's the consistency of the case, analysis of progression on slots, and adjustments made thereof. I understand that what you see is a tunnel on HPE, but I see wgeurts identifying behavior they find scummy, and remaining *internally* consistent in their application of these standards. HPE *hadn't* done anything that addressed wgeurts primary concerns, and *had* done things that perpetuated them, and so the read deepened.

Wgeurts interpretation of HPEs contributions may be uncharitable, but they are not dissembling in any way.

This, added to the massive read walls early on, which are effectively the biggest reach out to the game to help town see them and coalesce, is why I would rather no lim than lim wgeurts today. If their content, when it comes, continues in this vein, that won't change.